HC trying to shut down dispensaries...so they can ROB you at an LP

Gmack420 said:

Don't fool yourself if mj is legalized for recreational use in Canada the lp system in place now a. Won't work it's just not good enough weed and it cost more then the bm. B. They are building a brand. A brand with a terrible reputation. C.with the lp's in place today at planned capacity not even current capacity they would all sell out in a few days even though the weed is shit. Think people are going to wait months for more smoke when the bm has all you can take at much more reasonable prices? The lp model of business and distribution is guaranteed to fail. Inferior products that cost more run by morons who can't meet demand today let alone when the flood gates open.

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The average consumer doesn't know who the lp's are. They don't have access to that market. When it goes mainstream, the dime bag types will see flashy packaging and expensive marketing campaigns that will help grow an op brand like tweed into a mainstream brand and a powerhouse quickly. That level of investment is almost impossible to compete against without matching investment.
So this scenario gives the large producers time to create a brand, gain investors and grow their business.

When the industry is opened up to a larger market, and it will be, the current lp's will be ready. They will already have access to large commercial spaces that are ready to have the switch flipped and loaded with clones.

It's all about positioning and strangling the current market so it cannot grow into a highly competitive market place.

It's all about market share, investors expect profits and constantly seek to open new markets so they can increase profits and roi.

ricky1lung said:

The average consumer doesn't know who the lp's are. They don't have access to that market. When it goes mainstream, the dime bag types will see flashy packaging and expensive marketing campaigns that will help grow an op brand like tweed into a mainstream brand and a powerhouse quickly. That level of investment is almost impossible to compete against without matching investment.
So this scenario gives the large producers time to create a brand, gain investors and grow their business.

When the industry is opened up to a larger market, and it will be, the current lp's will be ready. They will already have access to large commercial spaces that are ready to have the switch flipped and loaded with clones.

It's all about positioning and strangling the current market so it cannot grow into a highly competitive market place.

It's all about market share, investors expect profits and constantly seek to open new markets so they can increase profits and roi.

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Wrong the average rec weed user knows more about what's happening to us sick people then you obvisly know. Quality matters more then packaging and marketing in this industry. Look you're sounding like an investor dreaming of what could be when the reality is the system in place for sick people will not and cannot transfer over to the scale need to provide weed for all Canadians. Quality matters not branding that's what investors and lp's just don't get. Btw what's the most well known BRAND of weed in Colorado, Washington, Oregon,Alaska or dc? Ummmm.

No. I'm a realist.

The average sheeple have no idea who a producer like tweed is. They will see the packaging and ads targeted at them and buy the products. They won't know how good it is until they've tried the numerous products that will be offered I. The product line.

I'm talking about the large majority of Canadians who buy weed from the guy down the street. There are far more pot smokers in Canada who don't have scripts and are not being told by HC where to buy than there are on the med side.

So. The current strong arm tactics are there to grow an industry that will reinvest into larger operations to accommodate more demand, all of the while almost completely restricting others from entering an extremely lucrative market.

Molopolize the current market, expand market share, increase roi.

Gmack420 said:

Wrong the average rec weed user knows more about what's happening to us sick people then you obvisly know. Quality matters more then packaging and marketing in this industry. Look you're sounding like an investor dreaming of what could be when the reality is the system in place for sick people will not and cannot transfer over to the scale need to provide weed for all Canadians. Quality matters not branding that's what investors and lp's just don't get. Btw what's the most well known BRAND of weed in Colorado, Washington, Oregon,Alaska or dc? Ummmm.

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The current HC model will cease to exist when the market is opened to all Canadians and not just med users.

If and when it's legalized it will become easier for anyone to start producing and taking their product to market. The current system is giving the approved lp's time to develop a brand, market share and investment so when it's time they've already been established with minimal competition.

I have recently gone to the mean streets of Whitehorse for some mj....I don't think people really give a fuck...they want the best pot for the least amount just like everyone. I don't think something coming in a fancy package is going to impress the guy who's used to ripping open the baggie and having a whiff...I would like to see how the government intends on making the rec market buy from LPs...there are a lot more of them than there are of us...

ricky1lung said:

The current HC model will cease to exist when the market is opened to all Canadians and not just med users.

If and when it's legalized it will become easier for anyone to start producing and taking their product to market. The current system is giving the approved lp's time to develop a brand, market share and investment so when it's time they've already been established with minimal competition.

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You underestimate recrational weed users. That's your biggest mistake. Have fun loosing your investment. I'm not suggesting lp's won't do well and make $ but their market will be places that don't have large bm already. Packaging and marketing mean nothing to experienced weed smokers. Again who is the biggest BRAND name of weed in the legal weed U.S. states? Hmmm . How's the bm doing in these states? THRIVING that's how.

The lp's will just be producers when it becomes rec. No need for an lp anymore because in all seriousness it's just a fancy title for an approved producer.

The current lp's get a shift in title and with a cushy head start they've enjoyed are able to use their former lp title as a selling feature, further increasing brand value and market share.

They will have the investment to increase capacity and market the hell out of the products, sucking in the people who don't know.

The government trying to control weeds!...the bm will always thrive as long as there are people like hippy around....I just don't see people accepting government control of this...it's been bad for so long and now it's just a cash cow for the powers that be...

ricky1lung said:

The lp's will just be producers when it becomes rec. No need for an lp anymore because in all seriousness it's just a fancy title for an approved producer.

The current lp's get a shift in title and with a cushy head start they've enjoyed are able to use their former lp title as a selling feature, further increasing brand value and market share.

They will have the investment to increase capacity and market the hell out of the products, sucking in the people who don't know.

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You don't get it. I doubt you ever will. The name means nothing lp, up, nope don't matter one iota. It's shit over priced weed and every large city in Canada already have established bm that already provide for ALL weed smokers with high quality and cheaper weed then the government approved producers can or will. Stop investing in a market you don't understand the green Rush is an illusion. And again what BRAND is the most well known in legal U.S. States? Cmon smart guy let's hear it. Answer the question don't just brush past the glaringly obvious answer -THERE IS NONE! There's no Budweiser, Bacardi or jack Daniels of weed and there won't be.

He's a liberal


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Chuck Rifici of Tweed Inc. has applied for a licence to produce medical weed in an abandoned Hershey chocolate factory in hard-scrabble Smiths Falls, Ont.

Rifici, who is also a senior adviser to Trudeau, was cited in a Conservative cabinet minister's news release Friday that said the Liberals plan to "push pot," with no reference to Health Canada's own encouragement of marijuana entrepreneurs.

Rifici says he's trying to help a struggling community by providing jobs while giving suffering patients a quality product.

"There's a real need," he said in an interview. "You see what this medicine does to them."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/1-3b-medical-marijuana-free-market-coming-to-canada-1.1872652

ricky1lung said:

He's a liberal


C/p

Chuck Rifici of Tweed Inc. has applied for a licence to produce medical weed in an abandoned Hershey chocolate factory in hard-scrabble Smiths Falls, Ont.

Rifici, who is also a senior adviser to Trudeau, was cited in a Conservative cabinet minister's news release Friday that said the Liberals plan to "push pot," with no reference to Health Canada's own encouragement of marijuana entrepreneurs.

Rifici says he's trying to help a struggling community by providing jobs while giving suffering patients a quality product.

"There's a real need," he said in an interview. "You see what this medicine does to them."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/1-3b-medical-marijuana-free-market-coming-to-canada-1.1872652

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And his business partner isn't getting elected to the prime ministers office! The liberal party is still to unelectable.

ricky1lung said:

He's a liberal


C/p

Chuck Rifici of Tweed Inc. has applied for a licence to produce medical weed in an abandoned Hershey chocolate factory in hard-scrabble Smiths Falls, Ont.

Rifici, who is also a senior adviser to Trudeau, was cited in a Conservative cabinet minister's news release Friday that said the Liberals plan to "push pot," with no reference to Health Canada's own encouragement of marijuana entrepreneurs.

Rifici says he's trying to help a struggling community by providing jobs while giving suffering patients a quality product.

"There's a real need," he said in an interview. "You see what this medicine does to them."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/1-3b-medical-marijuana-free-market-coming-to-canada-1.1872652

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He already "took the money and run"...oo oo oo...he's off to much greener pastures....

ricky1lung said:

He's a liberal


C/p

Chuck Rifici of Tweed Inc. has applied for a licence to produce medical weed in an abandoned Hershey chocolate factory in hard-scrabble Smiths Falls, Ont.

Rifici, who is also a senior adviser to Trudeau, was cited in a Conservative cabinet minister's news release Friday that said the Liberals plan to "push pot," with no reference to Health Canada's own encouragement of marijuana entrepreneurs.

Rifici says he's trying to help a struggling community by providing jobs while giving suffering patients a quality product.

"There's a real need," he said in an interview. "You see what this medicine does to them."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/1-3b-medical-marijuana-free-market-coming-to-canada-1.1872652

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And why the fuck would you quote a story from 2013 to PROVE your point? Lolololol how's that giant medical weed market going for them? Less then 25% of legal Canadian mmj user have made one purchase from a lp. Most either grow their own or buy bm. But what do I know. You can't refute any of my points so let's try to steer the thread in another direction....

Gmack420 said:

You don't get it. I doubt you ever will. The name means nothing lp, up, nope don't matter one iota. It's shit over priced weed and every large city in Canada already have established bm that already provide for ALL weed smokers with high quality and cheaper weed then the government approved producers can or will. Stop investing in a market you don't understand the green Rush is an illusion. And again what BRAND is the most well known in legal U.S. States? Cmon smart guy let's hear it. Answer the question don't just brush past the glaringly obvious answer -THERE IS NONE! There's no Budweiser, Bacardi or jack Daniels of weed and there won't be.

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I know right, a publicly traded company doesn't try to expand, they don't reinvest into better methods and r&d to increase profits.

Btw. I'm not talking about the market in the states, I'm talking about the current situation here in Canada. The lp's here are already trying to expand into new markets and increase profits.

There will be a jack Daniels of weed, but this early in they're still expanding their markets and developing a brand name.

I'm not looking at the small picture, you need to look at it from the business side and not the consumer or med user. It's far bigger than that.

But crappy weed is crappy weed...they shouldn't even be considering expanding until they can grow in the space they've already won...

ricky1lung said:

I know right, a publicly traded company doesn't try to expand, they don't reinvest into better methods and r&d to increase profits.

Btw. I'm not talking about the market in the states, I'm talking about the current situation here in Canada. The lp's here are already trying to expand into new markets and increase profits.

There will be a jack Daniels of weed, but this early in they're still expanding their markets and developing a brand name.

I'm not looking at the small picture, you need to look at it from the business side and not the consumer or med user. It's far bigger than that.

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The green rush has got you bad eh bro? Branding doesn't matter! Not with weed! Quality is all that matters. We are far smarter consumers then lp's and their investors give us credit.

Gmack420 said:

The green rush has got you bad eh bro? Branding doesn't matter! Not with weed! Quality is all that matters. We are far smarter consumers then lp's and their investors give us credit.

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Guy, I'm not invested in it in any way shape or form. I'm a consumer. That's it.

Of course quality matters. It matters with any business. Market share and investment also matter.

You don't have to agree, were clearly looking at it with different perspectives.

ricky1lung said:

Guy, I'm not invested in it in any way shape or form. I'm a consumer. That's it.

Of course quality matters. It matters with any business. Market share and investment also matter.

You don't have to agree, were clearly looking at it with different perspectives.

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Yep I'm using reality your using delusions of this green rush that's not going to go down the way investors think. If you aren't invested in a lp yet you really should they need your money Badly.

once its legal,,,,how long before an LP starts buying BM weed to.. out the competition and be able to supply something good
to suck in people to a brand name...

cannadan said:

once its legal,,,,how long before an LP starts buying BM weed to.. out the competition and be able to supply something good
to suck in people to a brand name...

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Exactly, it's a good possibility. That and with the head start and an r&d dept they could already be working on new strains that aren't approved by HC. This head start gives the current buddies of politicians and other investors a huge advantage.