jayblaze710
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Ndnguy had no problems with crosses using his line. He didn’t want the pure line to be sold.
Hazeman Seeds
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Sour Wreck
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madininagyal
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Why so much hate?? There à lot of strain going by the name of sour grape like one i smoked ( sour diesel x grape ape) ,
hazeman is one of the few like ggg To have thé original GS from jojorizo
Hazeman gear is fucking legit and Lemon stomper and elephant stomper were great smoke
And by the way ,nobody give à fuck about key"shithole"play and thé little rice m4k , healthy and good mind people in front... crooked as riot and swerve in thé back, so don't mention those asshole GGG got good strain not gonna lie but they are piece of shit, simple as that you might disaprove but thats thé reality
madininagyal
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The 5k is just abusive og renamed...
silverhazefiend
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The la pure kush ia a bx4 male .. says hazeman
jayblaze710
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Thanks for the info. That’s actually super intriguing. I’ve heard nothing but good things about LA Pure Kush aka Hollywood Pure Kush aka Topanga Canyon Kush. Do you happen to know what male he used initially?
greencropper
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silverhazefiend
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Nah i just really went digging for the info i want a pack and i wanted them to see i found the info on ig
Stoned Cold Bulldog
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cool, i wonder what he used for the bx. that's a tidbit worth knowing. especially since he can't have but so much time to work each into a stable seed form. thx. for the info most def
Stoned Cold Bulldog
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1st. don't assume Hate. i just want to know as much as i can to make better decisions.
no need to hype hazeman to me or who has GS, as quite a few folks have GS now. not the rarity she used to be a few years ago, but i'm guessing you know this/maybe not idk you.
other strains going by the name sour grape was never an issue. i have told folks who named their strain they created that their was already a strain sour grapes. this dude had no idea of that. how he came up with the name made sense just like the one you mentioned. but like i said it's not germane to what i focused on in my post dribble.
thx for letting me know that those two people don;t give a fuck about or at least you don't.
how that helpd in anyway i don't know. i don't think u would o well in court constantly bringing up irrelevant info while on the stand though. ijs hint hint lol. yes, the wake and bake is on too. GG#1
i never hyped GGG gear, maybe you were squinting so hard from weed that you could see what i wrote. btw just for the record. don't tell me what to so or say, I'm grown. ijs
you mind translating what this means "healthy and good mind people in front... crooked as riot and swerve in thé back" i have always been under the impression that riot, key,and swerve were all dicey as fuck and often lied about genetics. i thought swerve and keyplay were the same person. after doing a little background investigation a few years ago. surely could be wrong though. I'm all ears if u have the consensus of truth on those two.
You didn't really help much with your post. maybe next time that will change. we can only hope so.
N.R.G.
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I have not seen or heard anything about Matt Riot lying about genetics. Does he rub some people the wrong way, sure he does. He can come off as abrasive I guess but I have a lot of friends like that. I think he just tells it like it is and doesn't candy coat it. The guy has been good friends with a lot of people I have a lot of respect for - for years so that's a tell tale sign about who he is as a person. He just calls out the liars, scammers and rip off artists and doesn't hold back. Ask him about his genetics and he doesn't hesitate to tell you exactly where it came from, who first bred it if he has that info and so on. He's pretty dang transparent.
thenotsoesoteric
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This is why I never even bothered to question where he got a male of a clone only, because logic would lead one to assume he back crossed 3 or 4 generations with a strain close to the clone only.
It really isn't that hard to do, just takes time.
thenotsoesoteric
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But hazeman isn't selling pure 88hp seeing as that is a clone. Hazeman had to backcross with a different plant to get that Y chromosome and so it is no longer "pure" clone or line so what is your gripe?
Stoned Cold Bulldog
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see after all these years i have never heard of mathew riot having a good character or integrity as his known reputation. this is the first time. lol ijs
like i like to tell folks. people have many facets about themselves. they pick what they choose to show us and we often don't get to see the rest/all with most/certain people. i'm open and honest as hell but i don't show all my facets either to be frank.
though i routinely piss people off and usually gleefully lol because i like to mix wit/humor together. all who really know me will always say i'm honest even if that means i'm honest about them. which in many cases i am then an ass hole lol. yes, a meme of george carlin appeared on facebook. talked about how people respected his candor telling of truth/ perspectives or whatever.
when we don't know someone and all we get is bits and pieces of info. all we can do is weight the info. if it's all bad or mainly bad we note that as well as good or mostly good. I don't see friends of pot personalities usually talk bad abut them. once in a blue moon they will say he/she is an asshole. but when the rep is unsavory and that's the consensus for years from various parties; us strangers who don't know them can't help but think not everybody is lying about the unsavory types. friends/comrades taking up for them won't pull much weight and i'm sure u feel the same way with folks you don't know. ijs
Stoned Cold Bulldog
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wtf , your logic isn't logical. you say this is why... but it's based on a quote that says a backcross. which as u state would have to be a different male as we all know.
so stay with me cause here's the rub that you pretend not to get.
he didn't list his shit as a bx backcross like folks do when that's what they do and want to let their customers know. he listed it like he femmed the cut and then said they were regular seed.
back to your fuzzy logic. you nor any of us can assume jack shit about what these dudes actually do to make what they sell. some are transparent, some are semi transparent, some don't say at all and some say but lie through their teeth on the regular. after time passes folks who didn't know shit from the beginning or when the sht was fresh don't have a clue as to the shady nature or trustworthy nature of many of these so called breeders.
just in the last 2 days i saw where Supposedly BOG was a liar back in the day point blank.
and of all the strains this was mentioned in connection with it was his infamous sour bubble.
I paid attention because I sour bubble in remake form as well as direct from bog. i have had plans for it for a decade since mole said it was a great plant to work with... imagine my eyes and ears when the story that is apparently old and true hit my cranium. i was like wtf are u kidding me. So do i now say fuck SB because of an old story that seems to be true and very likely is. no, because SB has seemed to proven itself even if the stated/claimed origin is not the truth. Prior to this story i have never heard a bad word spoken about BOG.
"THIS IS THE LIFE WE CHOSE" SMDH LOL
thenotsoesoteric
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^ Who gives a funk bro, lol. Seriously nobody coming to this thread gives a shit about your opinions about anything. lmao
thenotsoesoteric
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Dude get a life bruh.
I can assume what ever the hell I want and I do. All I know is I posted up pictures of weed that I grew from hazeman. It is just as his descriptions said.
What have you done here? Cry and just blurt out the most incomprehensible long ass winded ramblings.
jayblaze710
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You’ve got a lot of wrong info.
The 88g13HP is an inbred line worked by NDNguy. He’s the one who gave out the seeds and didn’t want anyone to profit from it. Hazeman just got a hold of some seeds and F2ed them.
Also, the HP in 88g13HP wasn’t a clone only, it comes from Sensi Seeds stock. They crossed it to the clone only G13. NDNguy then worked the line over multiple generations. 88g13HP IS the pure line that wasn’t supposed to be sold for profit.
You can argue whether or not what Hazeman is doing is ethical or not, but by selling the seeds he’s going directly against the intentions of the person who spent years working the line and chose to give it away.
torontoke
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Well if he was legit giving it away then wouldn’t people be running those freebies instead of buying hazemans gear?
I have no dog in this fight btw just giving a different perspective.
But all this talk of ethics is a bit unfair.
If no one made more seeds or crosses then all the work would be for nothing.
To many of the best strains have been lost and I’m glad that these g13hp are available to everyone not just a small group of hoarders
greencropper
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i think thenotsoesoteric has the feel of this thread in that most are not interested in the ins & outs or the intrigue of what maybe/could be...one gets the notion there are some personal axes being ground here, possibly for a genuine reason, but again thats not in the interest of real growers, what matters in general is...are Hazemans strains worth growing? from what ive seen the overwhelming majority support his strains, the only true way to prove if his gear is ok or not is to just grow it out then give an honest report back to the growing community...isnt that what RIU was invented for in the first place?