Haze Harvest - a few pounds of 1200w vertical weed

PetFlora

PetFlora

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Prawn Connery said:
There seem to be a few quotes missing from that lot. What happened to this one? :???:

What about the one where you claimed you could grow 40oz of wet bud in your setup and then said that was 4 pounds and vastly superior to anything anyone else could produce?

Isn't it funny how all your petulant posts suddenly disappeared from that thread . . . Poor little man. You keep on posting here if it makes you feel better. Mummy still loves you.
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I removed my replies to you as the mods were not going to remove yours, and I did not want to turn my thread into a pissing contest, especially with someone who failed to see that I was already using adjustable bypass valves before posting.

Actually, I think you also looked at my led grow where I had a 4oz WET cola- note the whole plant was grown under < 120 watts, ~50w of which were household globe leds; same ones I am using now but 2 days ago I added 4 @ 23w led 4ft tubes.

Me being high at the time, I was confused when I responded to your 3+ pounds, and made a erroneous 10xs what if calculation based on my led cola, instead of my HOT5 yield. My bad.

Although I never weighed the HOT5 result using my first gen DIY spray system, I think 1-1.5+ pounds dry weight is not an unrealistic guestimate, so 432w x 3 (1200w) puts that first gen attempt near 3+ pounds.

All things considered, my first gen pvc spray bar/Air Pot DIY worked pretty well, especially since ~ 25% of the nutes overshot the Air Pots entirely during each spray cycle. When I tripped across the Halo Rings I got excited as I could now direct > 95% directly into the rock medium. I did have to increase the diameter of the holes as many were clogged

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I won't be starting another grow until first new moon in September, hope anyone reading this will follow along

Sadly, it is clear that you can't control your immature name calling behavior. Is it the voices in your head, or just angrily lashing out because you have been schooled?

All you ever had to do was carefully read my thread before your first post, and none of this would have happened

Anytime you want to get the mods to pull your posts from my thread, I will agree to do the same
 
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kindnug

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PetFlora said:
HI, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW i WILL BE POSTING CRAP ON YOUR THREAD UNTIL YOU GET YOUR HOLIER THAN THOU CRAP OFF MINE.

IF ANYBODY CARES TO SEE HOW PC SHITS ON SOMEONE ELSES THREAD. PLEASE COME BY MY THREAD, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT A DOUCHE THIS OTHERWISE ACCOMPLISHED GROWER IS
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Want a tissue to wipe away the tears?
 
Prawn Connery

Prawn Connery

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The Swiss Bliss and Calizahr x C99 came down today - the Catpiss haze is almost there.

Initial weights are a bit shy of what I would have liked, but that's the trade-off of growing in the cooler weather. The buds are generally nicer (a bit tighter), but the yields can be slightly down. Plants tend to grow faster when they're warmer.

The first pic has the Cal99 on the left, Swiss Bliss on the right, and a Swiss Bliss bud in the middle. The Swiss Bliss is prone to mould and the top of the main cola got just a whiff of the dreaded hairy monster, so I won't be mixing that bud in with the rest. The Cal99 has so far proven quite mould resistant.




Cal99 first . . . 200 grams (204g - 4g for the bag).




Swiss Bliss next . . . 178 grams (sorry about the picture quality - you can just make out the "182" on the scales)




And here is a close-up of the mould-affected Swiss Bliss bud. The mould is on the other side, in case you're wondering, but is very minor.




Altogether 378 grams of trimmed, dried bud - 13.5oz in the old language. A bit short of a pound, but the two Catpiss Hazes should yield a bit more. I might be pushing to make 3lb this grow, but we'll see . . .
 

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hyroot

hyroot

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What. Is your idea of cooler and warmer? Plants grow best and yield best between 72- 77 degrees. Mj stops growing at 87 degrees. Too much heat will make yield suffer and buds more airy... too cold temps will make flowering lagg like too much n. But yield will suffer too.

Your buds look dank.
 
Prawn Connery

Prawn Connery

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Cheers. I've actually found they finish quicker when it's colder - heat keeps them stretching and budding. I'm not sure about your temperature range - 87F is about 30C, right? It gets a lot hotter than that near the equator where sativas are from. It gets over 40C here in Australia and we still grow indoors without AC. Sometimes it gets to 45+C in the cabinet in summer - that's really pushing things, and the bud quality is affected greatly. I try not to grow in such conditions, but sometimes summer comes early or extends late.

Right now it's getting near zero C overnight and mid teens in the day. 20-30C seems to be the optimium range for me.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Sativas are from equitorial regions but more mountainous regions at higher elevations where its cold. Indica are from high heat desert areas like the middle east former regions of Hindu kush. The place not the strain. Indica do much better in warmer climates than sativas. indica leaves are dark green and more broad to.shade the plant from heat and don't really get light bleached. Where sativas can get bleached very easily. Skinny fingers on the leave don't shade very much.

87f is around 30c. Unless your using co2 Thats too hot.my veggie garden outside does not like that temp either. They do best in the mid to low 70's.

It my indoor gets hotter than 75f they get light bleached. That destroys chlorophyll. In the 80's f buds gets soft and airy. As if the soil was bone dry. With out door if its too hot I move them into the shade.
 
jr5142

jr5142

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I first started following this because I was impressed by the results of prawns vertical grow (something that until now I had just viewed as a novelty).. lol now I check in daily to follow the drama and he said she said... Thanks for the laughs I've had while reading these mud slinging contests. And hats off to you prawn for not only a very successful grow. But also making me want to learn more about your style of grow.
 
smoke and coke

smoke and coke

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hey Prawn thanks for sharring. they look awesome. you have come along way since your first grow lol.

you actually inspired me to go vertical with an open bulb. i dont pull anything like you with my 400's, but i do alright.
 
beeralot

beeralot

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I really like the way you do your vert im hoping to do something like this soon i would love advice from you sir prawn. I myself live in this beautiful country aussie aussie. I will be posting up soon just started lemon kush and green love potion kerala x skunk and my area is 7ft long,7ft tall and not very wide 2.5ft i like the screen set up you do. And I only have 400wt hps. first time grow. Will start a journal soon. x rep to you. inspired
 
jr5142

jr5142

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lol, anyone can claim pounds.... Pictures or it didn't happen. Prawn has definitely shown us pics of his rather impressive poundage... I'm excited to see pics of yours!
PetFlora said:
I removed my replies to you as the mods were not going to remove yours, and I did not want to turn my thread into a pissing contest, especially with someone who failed to see that I was already using adjustable bypass valves before posting.

Actually, I think you also looked at my led grow where I had a 4oz WET cola- note the whole plant was grown under < 120 watts, ~50w of which were household globe leds; same ones I am using now but 2 days ago I added 4 @ 23w led 4ft tubes.

Me being high at the time, I was confused when I responded to your 3+ pounds, and made a erroneous 10xs what if calculation based on my led cola, instead of my HOT5 yield. My bad.

Although I never weighed the HOT5 result using my first gen DIY spray system, I think 1-1.5+ pounds dry weight is not an unrealistic guestimate, so 432w x 3 (1200w) puts that first gen attempt near 3+ pounds.

All things considered, my first gen pvc spray bar/Air Pot DIY worked pretty well, especially since ~ 25% of the nutes overshot the Air Pots entirely during each spray cycle. When I tripped across the Halo Rings I got excited as I could now direct > 95% directly into the rock medium. I did have to increase the diameter of the holes as many were clogged

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I won't be starting another grow until first new moon in September, hope anyone reading this will follow along

Sadly, it is clear that you can't control your immature name calling behavior. Is it the voices in your head, or just angrily lashing out because you have been schooled?

All you ever had to do was carefully read my thread before your first post, and none of this would have happened

Anytime you want to get the mods to pull your posts from my thread, I will agree to do the same
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Prawn Connery

Prawn Connery

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hyroot said:
Sativas are from equitorial regions but more mountainous regions at higher elevations where its cold. Indica are from high heat desert areas like the middle east former regions of Hindu kush. The place not the strain. Indica do much better in warmer climates than sativas. indica leaves are dark green and more broad to.shade the plant from heat and don't really get light bleached. Where sativas can get bleached very easily. Skinny fingers on the leave don't shade very much.

87f is around 30c. Unless your using co2 Thats too hot.my veggie garden outside does not like that temp either. They do best in the mid to low 70's.

It my indoor gets hotter than 75f they get light bleached. That destroys chlorophyll. In the 80's f buds gets soft and airy. As if the soil was bone dry. With out door if its too hot I move them into the shade.
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Hi mate, I really have to disagree with most of this. I lived in SE Asia for more than a decade and have seen landrace sativas (collected many a seed during my travels through Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Malaysia, China, Korea etc) and some of the places I saw them it was just plain HOT. The mountainous regions of South East Asia do not compare at all to the high-altitude regions of Central Asia, and indeed, you will find landrace sativas growing along riverbanks in SE Asia that aren't far off sea level.

I've never, ever seen heat stress at 24C. Light bleaching happens when the plants are too close to a strong light source, as opposed to the actual temperature inside the room.

I've traveled through some of the mountainous regions of China and Pakistan, where indicas grow on the side of the road, and the defining features of the landscape are lack of ozone (very high UVB - sunburn is a bitch), very mild daytime temperatures (even in summer) and very cold overnight temps, so not quite sure how that stacks up with indicas being more heat resistant than sativas. Indicas are much more cold resistant to sativas, in my opinion. But again, my experience differs to yours . . .

I'm not saying all this to be obstreperous, it's just that I've been to these places and I've seen native sativas as far as the eye can see in some cases. There are undiluted parts of China and Korea, for example, that just blew me away when I saw hemp growing EVERYWHERE. Up until then, I'd only seen the odd plot or scattered thicket where sativas were being cultivated or were left to grow naturally.

And mate, ask an Aussie outdoor grower how hot it gets here. Have you seen that movie "Good Morning Vietnam"? In best Robin Williams impression:

"It's hot! Damn hot! Real hot! Fool, it's hot! I told you again! Were you born on the sun? It's damn hot! It's so damn hot, I saw little guys, their orange robes burst into flames. It's that hot!"

Hehe. Sorry. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree :bigjoint:
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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jr5142 Scroll down to post #38- had 5 plants that look like the one pictured. You would have to go to my last grow thread to see more, as I do not save many pics from previous grow. But even a skeptic can see this plant was > 4 ozs
 
Prawn Connery

Prawn Connery

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hyroot said:
indica leaves are dark green and more broad to.shade the plant from heat and don't really get light bleached. Where sativas can get bleached very easily. Skinny fingers on the leave don't shade very much.
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Bearing in mind I'm not a botanist, I have my own theory on why indicas have fat leaves and sativas skinny leaves.

Humidity.

Due to its elevation, Central Asia is very dry, so indica plants don't have to contend with humidity and mould as much as tropical varieties like sativas.

I believe sativas evolved an open structure (which accounts for the skinny leaves) to became more resistant to problems caused by humidity. Indicas developed a tighter structure with bigger leaves possibly to maximise photosynthesis in areas where growing seasons were short, and soils were poor in nutrient.

Just a theory, but there's no denying the fact indicas are far more susceptible to mould than sativas. Sativas also like more acidic soils, consistent with the abundance and fast breakdown of organic material in tropical areas on which to feed.

I think I'm going to have to read up on this stuff to answer my own questions!
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Pc on location I was quoting from dj shorts book. Outside the u.s. ive only been to mexico, canada, and England.


Leaf shape may be due to infrared and deep red light.
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When I add more 660nm red and 730nm/760nm IR my leaves get much larger and fatter. No matter what lineage.


Btw a strain I breed. Cheese berry kush has some columbian landrace skunk in the lineage. That crossed with ice is the strain I had then I crossed it with an old school ibl master kush.

Cheese is really a retarded skunk pheno.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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^^^^ I do par t5 too. One of the bulbs he has I use too. Wave point coral wave. It has a lot of IR from 730nm - 780nm. It makes buds very dense.more so than a 1000w digilux, ushio, and hortilux.

Google Texas a&m infrared light effects on plant growth.

Pet in his thread is showing you can grow great pot with very little watts. Lumens and watts have no place in plant growth. Its all about par. Photosynthetically available radiation. Umole/s w/m2. I also have done grows with 330w cmh that puts out more par than a 600 w ushio. My cmh Philips 330 allstart is 1300 umole/s at 16 inches away and a 600w ushio is 1100 umole/s at 12 inches away. .... area51 led at 160w puts out 1200 umole's at 12 inches away. Those are examples off low watt high par lights. Also my par t5 8 bulb set up at 432w is around 1800 umole/s at 4-6 inches away. My largest harvest off that one t5 light was 12 zips with 8 3 gals. My last was 9 zips off 3 7 gals. On one plant 3 branches got broken off 3 weeks prior to chop. I was clumsy.


Don't mean to hijack your thread Pc.
 
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