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Cooter@666

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whacked um hard eh ...the spots ? are they burns or stain ?? ..either way it set um back some ... ecokill blows.

I'm pretty sure they're burns, I'm sure they won’t grow to their full potential but I’m hopeful to salvage a little product from them....it’s a fucked up way to learn a lesson but, it is what it is
 

mauichronic808

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i dunno cooter, i had the same looking leaves before an i never sprayed anything on them. could it be that you just put your plants outside from under lights? because when i did that i had leaves turn out like this: IMG_0119.jpgIMG_0120.jpg
 

Sheckster

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Maui the leaves in your photo look like they have a magnesium deficiency..
Cooter looks like magnesium and calcium deficiencies...
I use CalMag in addition to the Grow Big I use... I have always used CalMag (1 tbsp per gallon - once every 2 weeks) with Ogs, Chems, Diesels, Kushes etc..
 

Cooter@666

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i dunno cooter, i had the same looking leaves before an i never sprayed anything on them. could it be that you just put your plants outside from under lights? because when i did that i had leaves turn out like this: View attachment 1405815View attachment 1405816
I could be....but i've been growning the same strains in the same location with the same soil & nutes, the only thing that has changed was the Eco Smart i spraryed them with. The differnce between the my damaged leaves and yours is my leave are all spoted brown/burnt marks the rest of the leaf is healthy. Your's dont apprear to have the same damage.
 

Cooter@666

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Maui the leaves in your photo look like they have a magnesium deficiency..
Cooter looks like magnesium and calcium deficiencies...
I use CalMag in addition to the Grow Big I use... I have always used CalMag (1 tbsp per gallon - once every 2 weeks) with Ogs, Chems, Diesels, Kushes etc..
Thanks for the suggestion, but it s not a cal/mag issue, The rest of the leave would start to yellow from the veins and it not doing that
 

Puna Bud

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I could be....but i've been growing the same strains in the same location with the same soil & nutes, the only thing that has changed was the Eco Smart i spraryed them with. The differnce between the my damaged leaves and yours is my leave are all spoted brown/burnt marks the rest of the leaf is healthy. Your's dont apprear to have the same damage.
Cooter@666, that stuff EcoSmart is some very,very strong stuff. The appeal is the price, and the name. To me it's basically the same as Ed Rosenthal's home brew but stronger. I too bought the stuff because of the two reasons I posted above. I've been growing for many years now. Which each grow I start off with anywhere from 50 to 150 starter. We're talking regular seeds now. With that numbers I figure around 40 to 65% will be female(fingers crossed). So for the sake of math let's say I plant 100,and 40 are female. Of that 40 females I will choose between 10 to 15 of the very best. The rest will be destroyed. I will also keep between two to three of the best males for breeding . Of the plants to be destroyed you keep one or two back for the sole purpose of testing products on them. Whether it be ferts, or insecticide. I sacraficed one such plant to EcoSmart,and found out the hard way. This was my 'Mealy Bug' test plant. It was loaded with 'Mealy Bugs',so I sprayed a good dose. The entire side of plant turned brown! I knew right then and there that EcoSmart would be used only on yard plants.and not my meds!
 

Puna Bud

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since it is winter time in Puna, I can do an indoor grow besides, my normal outdoor grow. These plants are all still part of my 'Short Season' grow.

Indoors I have 8 'Super Lemon Haze', and another 8 of my Ultra-Cheese strain growing outdoors in my jungle canopy. I know, I know, it should be the other way around with these plants, 'SLH' grown outdoors. I wanted these girls to come out bug free,...yeah right! My outdoor 'Ultra Cheese' girls seem to be attacked only by our little "Fire Ants" on BI. They go up stock, and getinto trichommes to eat,and then die!. My 'Lemon Skunks' on side of house seem to enjoyed by "black ants"!? You'll notice in my pics of outdoor plants(Ultra-Cheese),small dead Red ants all curled up.

You'll notice in pics of SLH that several suffer either from "Nitrogen toxcity",or to much ferts applied to SLH? I kow that SSH are sensitive to ferts. So it only seems normal that SLH would be too. But I'm always "bobo" too. So it could be that I gave these girls vegging ferts instead of flowering ferts!? What do you think? What a fucking dork I am!
 

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Cooter@666

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Cooter@666, that stuff EcoSmart is some very,very strong stuff. The appeal is the price, and the name. To me it's basically the same as Ed Rosenthal's home brew but stronger. I too bought the stuff because of the two reasons I posted above. I've been growing for many years now. Which each grow I start off with anywhere from 50 to 150 starter. We're talking regular seeds now. With that numbers I figure around 40 to 65% will be female(fingers crossed). So for the sake of math let's say I plant 100,and 40 are female. Of that 40 females I will choose between 10 to 15 of the very best. The rest will be destroyed. I will also keep between two to three of the best males for breeding . Of the plants to be destroyed you keep one or two back for the sole purpose of testing products on them. Whether it be ferts, or insecticide. I sacraficed one such plant to EcoSmart,and found out the hard way. This was my 'Mealy Bug' test plant. It was loaded with 'Mealy Bugs',so I sprayed a good dose. The entire side of plant turned brown! I knew right then and there that EcoSmart would be used only on yard plants.and not my meds!
Thanks Puna! I really need to consider keeping a few tester plants around. That’s some awesome advice! besides the burns from the "EcoStupid" the plants are doing pretty good all things considered.
 

Cooter@666

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since it is winter time in Puna, I can do an indoor grow besides, my normal outdoor grow. These plants are all still part of my 'Short Season' grow.

Indoors I have 8 'Super Lemon Haze', and another 8 of my Ultra-Cheese strain growing outdoors in my jungle canopy. I know, I know, it should be the other way around with these plants, 'SLH' grown outdoors. I wanted these girls to come out bug free,...yeah right! My outdoor 'Ultra Cheese' girls seem to be attacked only by our little "Fire Ants" on BI. They go up stock, and getinto trichommes to eat,and then die!. My 'Lemon Skunks' on side of house seem to enjoyed by "black ants"!? You'll notice in my pics of outdoor plants(Ultra-Cheese),small dead Red ants all curled up.

You'll notice in pics of SLH that several suffer either from "Nitrogen toxcity",or to much ferts applied to SLH? I kow that SSH are sensitive to ferts. So it only seems normal that SLH would be too. But I'm always "bobo" too. So it could be that I gave these girls flowering ferts instead of flowering ferts!? What do you think?
You’re probably right on the over fert scenario, Maybe a little bit of a flush will straighten those green ram horns. J
 

pepperbelly

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Thanks Puna! I really need to consider keeping a few tester plants around. That’s some awesome advice! besides the burns from the "EcoStupid" the plants are doing pretty good all things considered.
Puna is a walking enclclopedia iswear ..lol...cooter shud throw that shit shit out..that ecosensene by ortho is garbage.
 

Dr. Greenhorn

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tardis is one of the few , ...reminds me of the rational matter of fact people park guys that hit home in Berkeley. ..i appreciate his comments ...sup ol man ...greenhorn ..u cool man ? ... we still on schedule for BARNS HAZE ?
hey what's up pepperbelly. haven't been on the internet much lately. too deep in work right now. been logging on every few weeks just to see what's happening.

I still got my haze seeds. haven't touched em yet though. haven't been growing at all for months allready. in fact, haven't been smoking the herb lately either. today makes 37 days sober from the herb. that's the most I have gone without smoking herb in the last 18 years!! before this, the longest I went without smoking herb was 3 days at the most. didn't think I could break the addiction but I did. not that there's anything wrong with smoking herb but I was addicted and addiction ain't good no matter what the addiction is.

anyways, I'm still here dude. just a lurker now:cool:
 

mauichronic808

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hey what's up pepperbelly. haven't been on the internet much lately. too deep in work right now. been logging on every few weeks just to see what's happening.

I still got my haze seeds. haven't touched em yet though. haven't been growing at all for months allready. in fact, haven't been smoking the herb lately either. today makes 37 days sober from the herb. that's the most I have gone without smoking herb in the last 18 years!! before this, the longest I went without smoking herb was 3 days at the most. didn't think I could break the addiction but I did. not that there's anything wrong with smoking herb but I was addicted and addiction ain't good no matter what the addiction is.

anyways, I'm still here dude. just a lurker now:cool:

man doc do i know exactly what your talking about. I havnt been burning the collie since christmas but about 1 time on the weekends at a concert or a friends house just to be social. but on a strict no sensi diet for a solid month to come. its good every now and again to break a habit and remember the times before the dependence. but i do still love my friend maryjane so i will be happy to return when i feel the time is rigth.
pepper those plants are looking dope! covered from head to roots in buds that look so tasty. i know ive said this before but the size of your plants are exactly the size i try go for when growing.
 

pepperbelly

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Thanks for all the props mc808 and bobo !
glad to see doc is better ....workin ....glad ur back pain is under control man.
puna , why didnt i think of tieing them down ? ...good call ...thanks ...bcuz they only vegetated abt 8 days and went toflower when i let them outside....i have room now in the planter box to do this ...yes..yes...yes..!
 

SurfdOut

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What do you guys like for ballasts? Digi or Magneti? I order a top of the line digi dimmable 1000w, and it worked for a whole week...
 
Thanks for all the props mc808 and bobo !
glad to see doc is better ....workin ....glad ur back pain is under control man.
puna , why didnt i think of tieing them down ? ...good call ...thanks ...bcuz they only vegetated abt 8 days and went toflower when i let them outside....i have room now in the planter box to do this ...yes..yes...yes..!
Yup tie her down i tied one of my plants for like a month n half it bushed out. startDSCF1347.jpg 1 1/2 month laterDSCF1397.jpg
 

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