Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Thundercat said:

The energy consumption all depends on the total size of your house, or location. You can figure 1x1000w per 12x12 room that you have in your house. So to run 4x1000, you would want to make sure you are in at least a 3-4 bedroom house. Atleast thats my understanding of what raises eyebrows down at the electric company.

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This is my understanding as well - 1000w for each bedroom in the house.

im planning on making the same system but modifying it a little. could i use 4" drain pvc rather than the fence post? then I could put T's were the wholes would be and have the T's 4"x2"x4" I use to work as plumber and it seems like it would be about the same. Also I read another persons one and they just drilled real small holes rather than buying spray nozzles and it worked just fine. like having a leak in your garden hose. sprays out a fine mist. if I did the T's pointing up (the 2" part) I could drop the neopreen plugs and baskets right into it and run the little 1/2" pvc pipes rt down the center of the 4" pipe runs. what do you think. if not I will def use your way exact (if it aint broke dont fix it) but I like the idea of it being round. making a stand to hold it is the only benifit I really see to using square fence post. please let me know

also I live in north central Ohio and my outdoor have gotten morning frost for about 5 days now. all the fan leaves are kinda hanging down and every morning I check on them they have ice crystals covering the buds. I ve been told that there tuff enough to last for a little while. but Im not sure how long. I would like them to go another week. mostly bag seed. 1 strawberry cough clone that im the most worried about. its small and bushy and gets the most frost, while the others are mostly taller and seem to be less frosted. tonight I put a clear big industrial size trash bag over the strawberrycough plant. any help any suggestions.
allso STINKBUD YOU HAVE THE BEST COMPLETE PLANS IVE EVER SEEN AND AFTER I BUILD MY UNITS I PLAN ON SHARING THE LOVE AND HOPE THE GOOD KARMA KEEPS ME SAFE. THANKS SO MUCH

repvip said:

Anyway, was curious how some of you felt about energy consumption with the light setups you seem to want--4 600w HPS... Aren't you worried about being flagged by the utility company?

I've ran a 1000w HPS 12/12 and 400w MH 20/4 with a modest increase in my bill, but no problems. Plan on using my other 1000w this round. But 4 1000watters would have to attract attention, wouldn't you think?

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In this State the utility company loves money and they really don't give a shit what you do as long as you pay your bills on time.

I have a Medical license to grow for myself and my patients. If they wanted to, the cops can get the list of all 20,000 of us and show up at our doors tomorrow. Might be a tad bit expensive to pull it off though.

Now obviously you have to take into account the State laws in which you live. Some States are very Anti marijuana and will do anything to catch growers, including invading privacy.

Over the next ten years we will see LED light systems come down in price and actually start to be a good option. Grow rooms will go from 2000W to 200W. Power and heat will be a non issue. Stealth baby!

But then again all the red LED lights might alert the police to the grow. Anyone with red lights will be fucked because you must either be a hooker or a grower.

Who's to say that we aren't all gonna start whoring ourselves out, or don't already lol!

STINKBUD if your not to buisy could you answer my first question about using the 4" pvc rather then pvc fence post. thanks so much for all the info. mad props.

also since im new at this site im not sure if im doing it right or if I have to send a question directly to the person who I want or what.

StinkBud said:

In this State the utility company loves money and they really don't give a shit what you do as long as you pay your bills on time.

I have a Medical license to grow for myself and my patients. If they wanted to, the cops can get the list of all 20,000 of us and show up at our doors tomorrow. Might be a tad bit expensive to pull it off though.

Now obviously you have to take into account the State laws in which you live. Some States are very Anti marijuana and will do anything to catch growers, including invading privacy.

Over the next ten years we will see LED light systems come down in price and actually start to be a good option. Grow rooms will go from 2000W to 200W. Power and heat will be a non issue. Stealth baby!

But then again all the red LED lights might alert the police to the grow. Anyone with red lights will be fucked because you must either be a hooker or a grower.

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Im really looking into the led for long term $ saved over the inital investment. and lack of buying replacment bulbs, plus more tayler tothe spectrume rather than just lum's. as long as you have good ventaltion it should keep hot spots from thermal imageing. and since led's dont make much heat or use many amps or kw they dont really set off red flags for the man. from what ive been reading anyway. im still a newbi, but the led's do seem the way of the future. they even have em on FLea bay
my electric comp is so greedy they would probly incourage it. lol

Can you think of any way to lower the height of your system? My grow room is not as tall.. height is a bit of an issue.

I could substitute the 18gal Rubberneck with the 10gal and gain some inches.. easy fix and should work. Anyone have the same problem and think of a simpler solution?

Can't wait to get this up and running

dude it that one of those ballast and hood combos?... your gonna want the ballast outside of the room.. good luck

No.. that's your typical sun grow reflector silly and the ballast is outside the room. Currently waiting on delivery of a cool tube reflector.

Hey Stinkbud.

I managed to read the whole thread from start to finish in about 6 hours total, with some slacking... but I still have unanswered questions.

I'm a new grower and would preferably be able to start a new system that would be able to take seeds to flowering in one machine. You mentioned using your veg system and that could do the trick... the problem is, I figured it would be about $150 to start something basic, and this isn't including timers, nutes, sleeves, or pots. This is a problem considering my budget is about $50. I can go up to a $100 or so, but after that I might have to turn to soil ... Anyways.

What's killing me is lights and pumps. Is there a reason for the 396 GPH pump, because it seems like a bit of overkill. And lights, I can deal with price wise, because it lasts... But in general do you get yours from Lowes or like a plant store?

My hope is to grow at least 2 oz of dry herb medicine.

Any help is appreciated, and you're doing a great thing with your patients.

Peace.

andyman said:

STINKBUD if your not to buisy could you answer my first question about using the 4" pvc rather then pvc fence post. thanks so much for all the info. mad props.

also since im new at this site im not sure if im doing it right or if I have to send a question directly to the person who I want or what.

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I started with a round 4" pipe system. It was my first Aero system. I bought it online. I'm selling it now.

It used hoses and leaked all the time. It had 2" pipe insets to hold the netpots. It was painted white (it came black). Basically a whole shit load of work went in to building it.

In fact of you look at some of the first photos in my journal you can see it. It had a wooden yoke that clamps on the pipes to keep them from rolling.

Trust me on this, the fence post system is the only way to go if you ask me (which you did).

Try it my way first. If it dosen't work I'll drink my bong water

andyman said:

Im really looking into the led for long term $ saved over the inital investment. and lack of buying replacment bulbs, plus more tayler tothe spectrume rather than just lum's. as long as you have good ventaltion it should keep hot spots from thermal imageing. and since led's dont make much heat or use many amps or kw they dont really set off red flags for the man. from what ive been reading anyway. im still a newbi, but the led's do seem the way of the future. they even have em on FLea bay
my electric comp is so greedy they would probly incourage it. lol

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I'm researching in to building my own LED light right now. Even the parts are expensive in the quantity I would need. I'm reading all about the different types of LEDs and how to power them right now. I never realized they had so many colors, light patterns and lenses.

You can also buy LEDs in pre built arrays that can be daisy chained together. I think I might go this route to save time.

I'd like to experiment with different ratios of colors. I'm thinking of building a small one with more blue LEDs for my veg unit.

repvip said:

No.. that's your typical sun grow reflector silly and the ballast is outside the room. Currently waiting on delivery of a cool tube reflector.

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Wow! That was quick. I haven't even finished the build tutorial on the veg system yet and you already built the flower unit. You get to go to the front of the class.

It looks like my photos where able to help you visualize the build without plans. Not an easy thing to do! Great job!

One thing that you can't see in the photos very well is a small little lip that I make out of left over neoprene. I glue it to the bottom of the fence post about 1/2" from the end.

This will keep the water from running back up the the fence post. I know it sounds weird but it's true! The lip makes the water drop back down into the res cleanly.

Trypto said:

I figured it would be about $150 to start something basic, and this isn't including timers, nutes, sleeves, or pots. This is a problem considering my budget is about $50. I can go up to a $100 or so, but after that I might have to turn to soil ... Anyways.

What's killing me is lights and pumps. Is there a reason for the 396 GPH pump, because it seems like a bit of overkill. And lights, I can deal with price wise, because it lasts... But in general do you get yours from Lowes or like a plant store?

My hope is to grow at least 2 oz of dry herb medicine.

Any help is appreciated, and you're doing a great thing with your patients.

Peace.

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It costs big bucks to get started but if you look at the price of weed it is cheap in the long run.

But I hate it when people are out of touch with reality. I know how it is to be broke. The bad news is you can't build and use my system if you're tight on cash. Fifty bucks won't even buy your parts. So what do you do?

Go to Walmart and buy 4 fluorescent shop lights ($7 each) and 8 cool white bulbs. Go to your local Hydro or garden store and buy a few bags of good organic soil like Fox Farm and mix it with pearlite 50/50. While your there buys some big pots.

Use the same nutrients as I do but follow the instructions for soil instead.

Save up your money and buy a good light when you can afford it. You can keep the fls for your cloner and veg unit later.

You will have all the tasty bud you can smoke in no time!

Thanks StinkBud! You are right--these things ARE fun to build! Nice tip about the neoprene! I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense. Nice to see the pic

I'm pretty sure I will have crowding issues.. it's so easy to make mistakes hehe.. I marked my 2" holes every 5", so after drilling they are only.. 3ish inches apart now! oops. It's great though... it's so easy to fix/replace parts!!

I can't see any screen in that pic? To keep roots from exiting the post? Also.. I thought I read earlier that you didn't have problems with roots clogging sprayers?

Thanks again

Hey stinky im back !
last week you were on page 15 or so, now your on page 41 .... awesome
for the life of me i cant find a timer that does 1 min on, 4 mins off, every 5 mins (1 min in 5)
all the digital timers have a max of 10/12/14 on/off cycles per day.
can i do 10 mins on 50 mins off or something more of that nature ??

everything else is ready to go but in OZ i cant find any damn timer to do what yours does.

this aero system seems promising....i have some g13 and T44 germing right now..

what medium are you using in the veg system?

and what medium are you using in the flowering system..

do you stay with you 1 min on, 4-5 min off non stop for 24hrs in both systems?

++, Great Thread! Cant wait to see the Vegging machine instructional manual!

-J

DaveTheNewbie said:

Hey stinky im back !
last week you were on page 15 or so, now your on page 41 .... awesome
for the life of me i cant find a timer that does 1 min on, 4 mins off, every 5 mins (1 min in 5)
all the digital timers have a max of 10/12/14 on/off cycles per day.
can i do 10 mins on 50 mins off or something more of that nature ??

everything else is ready to go but in OZ i cant find any damn timer to do what yours does.

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