to be honest, drying longer than 4 or 5 days is bad. The reason you want to cure for a along period is to make all the trichromes dry really fast. Most tricromes are on the surface area of the bud so logically the optimal time to pull form drying (or hanging) would be when the humitity between the difference bud sites is more that 15% higher than the surface of the bud. but who really has something determine this? Drying is the one thing in growing that is an art. You must first decide how dry you want your bud, then you have to know how dry the bud gets each day after burping for 5-10 ins(depending on how dry you want the product.) And then you need to decide how long to dry for? Its really open to discussion but I have to say the snap test is the best way to determine whan to put into jars. Then burp for 10 mins for dense buds or 5 mins for really airy buds.
Hang drying for a month???
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bonz
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drying for more than 3 or 4 days is the correct way. theres more to the process than how dry it is and the trich`s. there is still a chemical process happening while it dries. if you only give it 3 or 4 days you loose the qualty of the thc. proven fact.
i dont like the taste of chlorofyl myself.
i dont like the taste of chlorofyl myself.
Londoner
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true bonz, not even the smallest popcorn buds will be dry enough for jarring before 3 or 4 days, i mean if you have big buds obviously theyre gonna need hanging for longer than smaller buds, my drying times are at the mercy of the good ol` british weather, different weather scenarios in the uk everyday play havoc with drying buds, at times theyre a bit over dried after just a week, other times theyre still wet after 2wks, its a pain in the arse sometimes, why do i have to live in the uk!!!!!!!!
Londoner
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i dunno bonz, have you ever done it? iv never done the brown paper bag but ive heard of alot of old school growers using that method, been tempted to try it myself.
BigGuyTok'n
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I'm talking about where they say to hang the plants 3-4 weeks and then manicure. It should be 3-4 days NOT weeks and as far as that goes you can even manicure them when you cut them down. Most people will probably argue that point but through my best friends and my own experience working with him, we tryed hanging whole plants and then manicuring and also manicuring when we cut them down and there was no discernable difference in our opinion, except when growing outdoors its less messy to manicure out there. I do consider my friend to be a connisuer). A good cure in jars after about 4-10 days ("until the stem snaps") drying (depending on temp, humidity, ventilation, etc...) is still desirable and recommended for at least 1 month (longer the better). The buds should be put into mason jars and burped several times a day until you know longer see any condensation inside of the jars. Then wait and the flavor and smoothnes will be greatly improved over time.
Londoner
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some growers swear by it, i know what your saying about no air to the buds but paper is porous, it does allow for some air exchange and the moisture wicks away from the buds via the papers fibres, i think thats why the brown bags work well because they have a coarser fibre structure than say standard writing paper or whatever.
Budda_Luva
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well from what i know puttin the bud in the bag is supposed to take the excess water out from the stem and to the buds so than u hang dry them again until the buds turn brittle once again and than throw them into the jar and an other thing i heard it was supposed to be a ziplock bag of somesort or a garbage bag...... and some people really dont care how the weed tastes they juss wanna get fuked up on some potent ass water cured shit but like i said befor i think its juss a personal kinda a thing
Edit*drying longer than 4 or 5 weeks is bad. The reason you want to cure for a a long period is to make all the trichromes dry really fast while the chlorifyl gets destroyed slowly.
Im not saying your wrong, but wheres the proof for this fact? I see a lot of experienced growers around here building bud dryers to get there stuff dry in 3-5 days and no mention of lower quality bud.
What is the chemical process? From my understanding its too much heat or too much airflow that lowers the thc content of the bud, not too little time. There seems to be a lot of debate about this subject around here, and you are one of the only people I've seen to state that drying 3-4 days lowers quality is a proven fact.
bonz
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it needs to convert the sugars to thc is just one of many processes. that wont happen properly in 3 or 4 days.
mabee they ones that dry in 3 to 4 days dont know the difference because they have never tried it longer.
i havesent in samples of different dries to dr hornby. he runs a med distribution center down the road from me. he tests the mj at ubc genetics lab.
usualy the ones drying 3/4 days are selling it and are only interested in $$$$$$$$$$$$
another reason is the shorter the dry the less resins.
its all over the net
mabee they ones that dry in 3 to 4 days dont know the difference because they have never tried it longer.
i havesent in samples of different dries to dr hornby. he runs a med distribution center down the road from me. he tests the mj at ubc genetics lab.
usualy the ones drying 3/4 days are selling it and are only interested in $$$$$$$$$$$$
another reason is the shorter the dry the less resins.
its all over the net
Budda_Luva
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^My mentour
OK, I buy that, but how long does it take? How would anyone know this?
How do you stop the herb from drying in 3-4 days if you're hang drying and the conditions are good enough to dry it in a short period of time? A stiff breeze, low rh, and a temp of 80F will dry herb in less than a week.
Well ive always done the old school hang drying, but im gonna be drying my next harvest in a bud dryer, so ill have something to compare it too.
And these tests have said what? Is the stuff dried longer more potent? Does it just taste better?
Well, i dont think thats true. For me, having a couple of plants hang drying for weeks is a HUGE security problem. Unless I dry in my flowering chamber, but then its a HUGE waste of time that could be spent flowering the next generation.
The debate is all over the net. Anecdotal evidence is all over the net. Good scientific evidence is not. If you have some please point it out to me.
And again, I just wanted to say that I dont necessarily disagree with you, but I dont think anything is a proven fact at the moment.
bonz
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there are many reasons to do a quicker dry other rhan wwanting to sell it, like you said dont have a safe place to take your time.
i let mine sit for up to 72 hours in the dark before i chop. ( it depends on how long on what strain i am growing)
then i chop the whole plant at the base and let it hang in the dark in low humidity and low heat.
after about 3 days i take all the larger and medium leaves off. then back into the dry room.
another 3 to 5 days i take the rest of the leaves off. i leave any leaves on that are frosty, even if they are a bit large. then back into the room again.
i will leave them in there till the stems snap easily.
so my whole dry time is usualy about 10 days to 2 weeks. than minimum 3 weeks cure. best cure at least 3 months. in dark and burping jars
i have an oscilating fan in there. my humidity is around 30 to 40% and my temps around 72 deg.
the stuff that is dried longer is both better tasting and higher thc.
the next time i am talking with my med place i will ask if i can send you a copy of some info. it belongs to the university so it1s not mine to post. but i will ask, mabee there is something else i can show.
i let mine sit for up to 72 hours in the dark before i chop. ( it depends on how long on what strain i am growing)
then i chop the whole plant at the base and let it hang in the dark in low humidity and low heat.
after about 3 days i take all the larger and medium leaves off. then back into the dry room.
another 3 to 5 days i take the rest of the leaves off. i leave any leaves on that are frosty, even if they are a bit large. then back into the room again.
i will leave them in there till the stems snap easily.
so my whole dry time is usualy about 10 days to 2 weeks. than minimum 3 weeks cure. best cure at least 3 months. in dark and burping jars
i have an oscilating fan in there. my humidity is around 30 to 40% and my temps around 72 deg.
the stuff that is dried longer is both better tasting and higher thc.
the next time i am talking with my med place i will ask if i can send you a copy of some info. it belongs to the university so it1s not mine to post. but i will ask, mabee there is something else i can show.
BigGuyTok'n
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Just a little from wikipedia FYI, I know it says "Outdoor", but the parts about drying and curing can apply to indoor/outdoor.
Outdoor Cannabis cultivation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Outdoor Cannabis cultivation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia