Guns in school

srh88 · Mar 12, 2018

Liar^^

Some thoughts on this. I was twittering and seen his post on it today saying he's seeing how the state's handle it on their own.

I feel like it's a much bigger (should be federal) than a state issue.

Is there a safe way to have guns in school? I don't think so. I've had some teachers in high school that probably would of shot me given the chance. Also I'm sure they won't get proper instruction on handling a firearm.

If I had kids I'd home school them... only a matter of time until a teacher snaps and starts shooting kids...

Sorry about the rambling thread. Any opinions or ideas?
(Other then stricter background/mental checks) that one makes too much sense so it'll never happen with a government owned by the nra

BarnBuster · Mar 12, 2018

I'd wonder who would pay for any blue on blue incidents and would they enact laws to hold harmless any teachers involved? No way I'd carry if I was a teacher without some assurances I wouldn't/couldn't be prosecuted.

Grandpapy · Mar 12, 2018

I was able to snap/crack tempers most of my teachers and one vice principal all the while not applying myself.

srh88 · Mar 12, 2018

BarnBuster said:
I'd wonder who would pay for any blue on blue incidents and would they enact laws to hold harmless any teachers involved? No way I'd carry if I was a teacher without some assurances I wouldn't/couldn't be prosecuted.

I was reading more saying teachers would have vigorous training lol.. kids would get more use out of up to date text books and decent tech than having Yosemite Sam as a gym teacher

BarnBuster · Mar 12, 2018

srh88 said:
I was reading more saying teachers would have vigorous training lol.. kids would get more use out of up to date text books and decent tech than having Yosemite Sam as a gym teacher

Yeah it takes hundred's of hours (read big bucks) in all type of shoot/no shoot training situations and a shooting house to develop those skills. Hardening up classrooms and enhanced entrance security procedures can get done the quickest but no one will want to pay for it.

BarnBuster · Mar 12, 2018

shit, i just noticed this was in Politics, lol

Fogdog · Mar 12, 2018

srh88 said:
I was reading more saying teachers would have vigorous training lol.. kids would get more use out of up to date text books and decent tech than having Yosemite Sam as a gym teacher

Phillando Castille was shot after he voluntarily told an officer he had a gun. So, connect the dots

Teachers carry guns...some teachers are black...police monitor traffic around schools to enforce school speed zone laws...black man wearing teacher id badge is stopped while hurrying in to work...???

Aside from saying the idea that teachers with guns will make schools safer is idiotic or that it's going to warp the student-teacher relationship or that we want/need great teachers not small arms experts in schools, I don't think this bodes well for teachers in any way, shape or form.

srh88 · Mar 12, 2018

BarnBuster said:
shit, i just noticed this was in Politics, lol

Welcome lol

srh88 · Mar 12, 2018

Fogdog said:
Phillando Castille was shot after he voluntarily told an officer he had a gun. So, connect the dots

Teachers carry guns...some teachers are black...police monitor traffic around schools to enforce school speed zone laws...black man wearing teacher id badge is stopped while hurrying in to work...???

Aside from saying the idea that teachers with guns will make schools safer is idiotic or that it's going to warp the student-teacher relationship or that we want/need great teachers not small arms experts in schools, I don't think this bodes well for teachers in any way, shape or form.

I see no positives in it

tangerinegreen555 · Mar 12, 2018

So a teacher, armed with a concealed handgun,

is going to take on an active shooter armed with a semi automatic long rifle like an AR-15?

The whole idea makes little sense. And it's obviously dangerous. Somebody could get the gun off the guy too.

Put a cop at the door like they do at the court houses if it's come to that.

Fogdog · Mar 12, 2018

tangerinegreen555 said:
So a teacher, armed with a concealed handgun,

is going to take on an active shooter armed with a semi automatic long rifle like an AR-15?

The whole idea makes little sense. And it's obviously dangerous. Somebody could get the gun off the guy too.

Put a cop at the door like they do at the court houses if it's come to that.

just looking at statistics of how guns make the average owner less safe, a risk assessment analysis would find that the benefit from the very low likelihood of a stopped shooter cannot justify the very real increase in risk of a district-wide teacher-carry policy.

srh88 · Mar 12, 2018

tangerinegreen555 said:
So a teacher, armed with a concealed handgun,

is going to take on an active shooter armed with a semi automatic long rifle like an AR-15?

The whole idea makes little sense. And it's obviously dangerous. Somebody could get the gun off the guy too.

Put a cop at the door like they do at the court houses if it's come to that.

Is it anymore ridiculous then rednecks saying they want their guns to protect themselves from the government?

tangerinegreen555 · Mar 12, 2018

srh88 said:
Is it anymore ridiculous then rednecks saying they want their guns to protect themselves from the government?

They're pretty delusional if they think they can fight tanks and helicopters. Not that it's coming to that but who the fuck are they going to beat?

Rednecks from the adjacent town maybe.

Fogdog · Mar 12, 2018

tangerinegreen555 said:
They're pretty delusional if they think they can fight tanks and helicopters. Not that it's coming to that but who the fuck are they going to beat?

Rednecks from the adjacent town maybe.

not even bikers

rkymtnman · Mar 12, 2018

tangerinegreen555 said:
They're pretty delusional if they think they can fight tanks

you just put your explosives in a sock and then cover it with axle grease and run up to the tank and

oh shit, that's from saving private ryan. yep, redneck v redneck sounds better.

too larry · Mar 12, 2018

BarnBuster said:
shit, i just noticed this was in Politics, lol

Slowly back away from the keyboard.

too larry · Mar 12, 2018

What works to make schools safer is more mental health care in the schools. Also making kids feel the school has their back, so they will report shit to teachers. The zero policy on fighting is one of the worst things they can do. The less drastic a school is on handing out suspensions and other discipline, the safer it is. But that may be one of those things where the inter city schools {who have more gun deaths} have more problem kids, so they get suspended more. Statistics do not show cause and effect.

zeddd · Mar 12, 2018

In the UK we don’t even arm the police (except specialist fa officers) most of the general population, from which the cops and teachers are drawn, are considered psychologically unsuited to drawing a firearm and killing another human with it. As for teachers fml unbelievable to arm teachers, how about following the rest of the world and sort out the gun problem

Sir Napsalot · Mar 12, 2018

These days, when I meet a well-behaved child it's like finding a gold coin in the mud

Sir Napsalot · Mar 12, 2018

Not that I've ever found a gold coin in the mud, but if I did I'm sure it would be like meeting a well-behaved child

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