grown for a veteran, first grow, tent 400 watt,

hmm, the water i have let sit out for a few days is 8.0 before i add the nutes,the runoff is way to dark to get a ph reading.. trying to get chris off his ass to get me that ph down, but hes forgetful

ok got the ph down drops, got it to 6.5 ish, light green with the test drops, 1/2 ml/gal.
then added 1 mlgrow, 3 ml bloom, and 5 ml blackstrap. going to water with it tomorrow well checking it now t see if needs it today,.no still feel the water i em, have the clone kit, but now itts too late to clone isnt it?

ph your water after the nutes. you can take a clone now put it will take longer to root from what ive read.

how do i do that redrum?the water with the nutes is dark brown, cant see green yellow, nothin but the brown nute mix.

and how about these yellow fan leaves? the large ones that arent nute burnt but are yellowing from age, they look like they are being bleached to yellow, think they are the nones im suposed to pull off, i usually do, but im high as gas right now, and just got all noided out about it, wont be able to reopen the tent till tomororow, and ill post a pic of it then.

have you atleast tried ph testing after you add nutes? its not so dark once its in the little ph est tube. my water starts at about 7 and ends up under 4 after nutes, then i ph it up.

i listend to you redrum and tested it after i added nutes, the gallon with the blackstrap, was close to 7 and the gal without the blackstrap, was close to 6-6.5.

i started 6 Jackie-o seeds 3 days ago, they are about a half centimeter tall now in their little cups, today i started 7 twog, 5 like i always do and 2 in wet towels in ziplock baggie. gonna post some pics of them, and the girls tomorrow, also need to remember to post pics of the ph tests if the dsi will pick up the light colors. whats the ph suposed to be, by the time anyone reads this ill have looked it up,, but this is also going to help me next go around, by havin all the relevant info and links on one place, lol. im feeling rambly...

i need to set up a perpetual, but space is my largest concern, i have the tent these are in, a separate shell the same dimensions of the current grow, but thats too big, dont have room for another that size, i need a way to set it up, im going to put up some links see if you think these will work, gonna post some links.

http://www.mixwholesale.com/Store/ShoppingCart.aspx?sck=59397794

, this one has the smallest tent i could find. i just need it for veging though... and the light was cheap as hell, probably gonna be some catch. these are just my first ideas,

have got to get this, cant keep the window open with a hose to control temps all year long... http://htgsupply.com/Product-GrowBright-6in-Inline-Fan-&-Charcoal-Filter-Combo.asp

this is more like what im thinking though honestly, this tent http://htgsupply.com/Product-Grow-Tent---Size-S-20-x-36-x-64---Silver-Lined.asp#
http://htgsupply.com/Product-HTGSupply-250-watt-Metal-Halide-Grow-Light.asp for veg lighting, or possibly some t5's i dont know much about them though honestly. i just need to be chopping 2-4 plants every month. plain and simple, im gonna have about 8 hundred to spend on this upgrade with tax money. also would really really like to find some ver, VERY . very simple diy hydro. to veg and flower hydro, using my tent, another smaller tent, adn the 400 watt i have + 1 onther light setup.

convict156326 said:

i listend to you redrum and tested it after i added nutes, the gallon with the blackstrap, was close to 7 and the gal without the blackstrap, was close to 6-6.5.

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for soil you want 6.5-7. ive seen allot of people find cheap tents on amazon. im getting the same fan/filter.

this is the ph test, makin sure im reading it correctly here is the water without nutes

heres the same with the nutemix i use


k heres my ghetto seedling box

here comes a bunch of pics, first id the c-red, still havent gotten the claws worked out i dont think, new growth has slowed alot, so i cant really tell, gonna try to get a soil ppm meter soon, 18.00 @ hydro store in town.. has the 4 dominant colas, but i wish i had lst'd them all, took some close ups of the yellowing leaves, the ones im thinking about pruning, is this normal yellowing? or nute related yellowing and bleaching? also bleaching effect. o before i forget again. the lights just came on like 10 mins prior to the pics, in a few hours, like 1 maybe the leaves will be up and the temps will be down.
the pics i took of the bottom shoots, can these be cloned? i would like to clone some so i am guarenteed a few females in the next run, since the people that tell me they have clones either dont call back, or m yride flakes out.. switching comps so i can upload all the pics at one time hopefully.

damn its importing alot of pics, kk first is the TWOG, need to know about the same leaves though, pull em from age or i screwed up again?

then is the bagseed plant, still feels like a gallon of milk when i lift the bag, but it is budding. so not a total loss.


the labella strawberry, like i said i believe this has to be a sat dominate, it is so much taller, thinner, lighter green, and the buds are developing much more slowly than the other 3 strains. i mean erven the f'd up bagseed has more production

ill have to recopy the creds from the other comp cause i screwed it up, think i can just edit the previous post instead of doing it all over again.


tell me what i need to be doing different or better. i know im screwing up but this is first indoors so i expect to mf up

it looks like you need more N but i would raise all NPK. how many weeks do you have left of flowering?

Hey man, looking good!

Hey Convict,
If it was me, I would remove all those yellow leaves. Looks like you are on the good side of whatever was wrong.
Stay with what u are doing, u r looking good

redrum83420 said:

it looks like you need more N but i would raise all NPK. how many weeks do you have left of flowering?

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i havent the slightest, id say less than 70 days

id get your nutes up then. thats allot of yellow for as long as you have left for flowering time.

put them up to 3 ml grow, 4 ml bloom, 5 ml blackstrap, going to be watering with it tomorrow.

am back, watered today, just a gallon for the 4 plants, seems like a very small amount of water for 4 plants, upped the nutes all for the next batrch, 3ml grow, 4ml bloom, 6 ml advance nutrients bigbud, ( cause it said 2 ml/liter, 3 liters /gal, 6 ml. but not watering with this for another 2-3 days, will the fan leaves that have yellowed come back? they look pretty pitiful.

What Kinda light ya got Bro
They Just look so strechie