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goodro wilson

goodro wilson

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I have a closet in my garage it's 5'x5'x8'
Until now I've been using only the back half of the closet
Anyways I have a digital 600 hps/mh in a cooltube and an old 400hps With homemade cooltube
What I want to do Is reposition my lights so that the 600 covers the back area I've been growing in (5'x3')
and hang the 400 on the right front corner of the closet in a (2'x3)
My main question is will I get goOd enough light coverage or maybe need to add some 42w cfl to every corner?
Another question is the ducting that's hooked up to the lights (6inchduct and 4inch duct) well it's running out a hole I cut in the back right corner of the ceiling, but the hole is square .... Should I use tape or spray foam sealer stuff to seal the hole around the ducts?
I completed a grow as is but think if the room was a little more sealed it may be easier to keep temps steady(hard Bc of garage)
One last question is I have no intake and think my plants would benefit from it.... I almost always have the door cracked sometimes open and the crack under the door is pretty big even when I do close it but do you think I need intake? Or is the passive intake ok? Probably the only way I could get fresh air would be to run ducting from the vents in attic down into closet so I wanna final answer before I do seal it up(if I even have to) thanks for being so helpful buddy


Oh yeah my"exhaust fans" are two Stanley blowers that blow through the light and into attic
Only other fan is one of those tall skinny oscillating fans. What do u think?

Thought of another question.. Last two runs I crammed as many one gallon pots I could fit in the 5x3
They were pitcher containers so very tall and slim
Well now I have switched to 7gallon grow bags and already put supersoil in the bottom and filled them
22 fit in the 5x3 area .....so the question. Is when people say the footprint of the light does that really mean the number of plants don't matter as long as they r in the footprint
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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MrStoney said:
Well I guess all is well and I greatly appreciate the input, good man! Might be back for some questions down the road. Thanks.
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Feel free to stop by anytime with questions or comments. I'm always glad to help. Sorry, but it just seems pointless to draw a T5 in a room which is basically all you need.
 
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MrStoney

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I completely understand the simplicity here, just the kinda guy the checks everything I can before screwing myself royally. I think your thread has helped me plenty already. Great info, I already +rep ya on this thread (won't let me again). Thanks for bringing something great to this community. :eyesmoke:
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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goodro wilson said:
I have a closet in my garage it's 5'x5'x8'
Until now I've been using only the back half of the closet
Anyways I have a digital 600 hps/mh in a cooltube and an old 400hps With homemade cooltube
What I want to do Is reposition my lights so that the 600 covers the back area I've been growing in (5'x3')
and hang the 400 on the right front corner of the closet in a (2'x3)
My main question is will I get goOd enough light coverage or maybe need to add some 42w cfl to every corner?
Another question is the ducting that's hooked up to the lights (6inchduct and 4inch duct) well it's running out a hole I cut in the back right corner of the ceiling, but the hole is square .... Should I use tape or spray foam sealer stuff to seal the hole around the ducts?
I completed a grow as is but think if the room was a little more sealed it may be easier to keep temps steady(hard Bc of garage)
One last question is I have no intake and think my plants would benefit from it.... I almost always have the door cracked sometimes open and the crack under the door is pretty big even when I do close it but do you think I need intake? Or is the passive intake ok? Probably the only way I could get fresh air would be to run ducting from the vents in attic down into closet so I wanna final answer before I do seal it up(if I even have to) thanks for being so helpful buddy


Oh yeah my"exhaust fans" are two Stanley blowers that blow through the light and into attic
Only other fan is one of those tall skinny oscillating fans. What do u think?

Thought of another question.. Last two runs I crammed as many one gallon pots I could fit in the 5x3
They were pitcher containers so very tall and slim
Well now I have switched to 7gallon grow bags and already put supersoil in the bottom and filled them
22 fit in the 5x3 area .....so the question. Is when people say the footprint of the light does that really mean the number of plants don't matter as long as they r in the footprint
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Hey bud, thanks for stopping by. I'll try and answer all of your questions.

It is the footprint of your light that determines how many plants you can fit under it. A 600w light has a footprint of 53"x53" so it almost perfectly covers the entire floorplan of your closet. If I were you I would line the walls with a reflective material (duct wrap, panda film, diamond foil, etc...) and make sure to rotate your plants every few days. This will make it so that your 600w light is enough for that space. You won't need to use the 400w, or the added electricity and cooling issues it brings. If you still want to use the 400w light then it is just an added bonus and can be placed anywhere inside the closet.

For the square port that you have I would just purchase a round flange and screw it into the wall around the hole. You can then attach your ducting right to it with tape or a worm clamp.

Cooling all depends on your environment. Everyone is different. You really don't want to leave the door cracked during the dark cycle because light can turn your plants into hermies. If the passive intake from under the door is sufficient to cool the room then you will know after running the space for a while. If not then look into exhausting more air which will increase the air being taken in from under the door and create a higher turnover.
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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MrStoney said:
I completely understand the simplicity here, just the kinda guy the checks everything I can before screwing myself royally. I think your thread has helped me plenty already. Great info, I already +rep ya on this thread (won't let me again). Thanks for bringing something great to this community. :eyesmoke:
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Thanks man. I appreciate it. Glad to help anytime.
 
bigsexyshaned

bigsexyshaned

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Hows it going man cool thread ya got goin on. So im pallid on starting up my two 54x98x78 grow tents. I'm running two digi 600 watt my/GPS in each and I'm air coolin em with a 424 cfm inline. Now I've never actually had an enclosed environment before like this so I have a few questions about the intake(passive or fan) and possibly an intake filter to controll possiblt problems with mold spores bugs etc??) I'm growing in soil and ill also need a watering/drain table of sorts. I was going to make one out of some 2x4s and plywood lined with panda film or a tarp with a simple pvc drain at the lower end of the table seeing as I will have one end of the table raised ill let gravity do its thing!! But please if you have any better ideas I'd love to hear em!
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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bigsexyshaned said:
Hows it going man cool thread ya got goin on. So im pallid on starting up my two 54x98x78 grow tents. I'm running two digi 600 watt my/GPS in each and I'm air coolin em with a 424 cfm inline. Now I've never actually had an enclosed environment before like this so I have a few questions about the intake(passive or fan) and possibly an intake filter to controll possiblt problems with mold spores bugs etc??) I'm growing in soil and ill also need a watering/drain table of sorts. I was going to make one out of some 2x4s and plywood lined with panda film or a tarp with a simple pvc drain at the lower end of the table seeing as I will have one end of the table raised ill let gravity do its thing!! But please if you have any better ideas I'd love to hear em!
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Glad to help man. Welcome to the thread. What questions do you have about intakes in specific. A lot will depend on your temps where the tents are. But with 2 600w lights in each tent I don't see you needing more than 1-2 passive intakes per tent. If you are looking to filter that air then you will have to make it an active intake though. For blocking pests, mold, spores, and pathogens you really want a HEPA filter. Something like one of these (http://www.greners.com/i/fans-ventilation-filters/filters-odor/hepa-filters.html) paired with an inline fan. The drain on your table sounds fine. Just would need to make sure you raise your tables off the ground enough so that you can angle the drain out of the tent and into whatever drain you have in the room. Don't want to have water sitting in the drains of your trays; leads to some funky stuff.
 
MYWhat?

MYWhat?

Active Member
Hey phillipchristian what CAD program are you using?

I also build real nice homes or did before the maket collapsed. So I know you definitely have a vast knowledge of how to build just about anything you put your mind too.

Nice to see folks sharing that knowledge !!
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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MYWhat? said:
Hey phillipchristian what CAD program are you using?

I also build real nice homes or did before the maket collapsed. So I know you definitely have a vast knowledge of how to build just about anything you put your mind too.

Nice to see folks sharing that knowledge !!
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Hey bud, I'm a developer of high end spec homes so we use the new 3D AutoCad software for actual construction and design. On here I'm just using a program called Smart Draw. It's a lot easier to just sketch things out in it. Everything I've learned in building has helped so much when designing rooms. Even some of the stuff we incorporate into our homes are starting to find their way into the rooms I build. It's cool.

Thanks for stopping by.
 
goodro wilson

goodro wilson

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Thanks Phil honestly I never even thought of using the 600 for the whole floors pace I've heard people say 5x5 3x3 but I guess where u mostly shed ur light was on rotating the plants I used to do that but got away from it anyways I think I'll still use the 400 but prolly in a different room(my ol lady will love this!) haha thanks for ur input ur very helpful forums are great Bc a lot of genius people grow weed apparently hell if u ask me we r the ONLY smart ones
Anyways thanks again thats part of what this hobby is about teaching others
 
TheGreenHornet

TheGreenHornet

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P.C. you are the man. I will definitely be using this thread with increasing frequency over the next two months.

Is it safe to run a 30 amp box and line at 100% capacity? I might use 6-600's instead of 4, with two vertical / supplemental MH for flower.

Ima draw out a pretty diagram like yalls and get back here stat
 
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phishtank

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It's definitely not safe to run that 30 amp breaker at 100%. Even if you over-sized the wiring any tiny surge in power the ballasts are pulling will flip the breaker constantly.
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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TheGreenHornet said:
P.C. you are the man. I will definitely be using this thread with increasing frequency over the next two months.

Is it safe to run a 30 amp box and line at 100% capacity? I might use 6-600's instead of 4, with two vertical / supplemental MH for flower.

Ima draw out a pretty diagram like yalls and get back here stat
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Hey bud, thanks for stopping by and welcome. You only want to run a circuit at 75-80% capacity. So a 30 amp breaker shouldn't have more than 23-24 amps on it. You could go as high as 26 amps MAX if you HAD to.
 
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LiquidGTX

Member
Hey phil, you seem to have the knowledge and answers i've been looking for. What can i expect in terms of breakers in an older home my wife and I are buying? I have not had a chance to take a flashlight over to the basement and spend time on the breaker box. I guess my question is what can i do to get a dedicated circuit without paying a fortune for an electrician to come in. If it helps i plan to put in a 1000w digital ballast, and add 2 600w in the future. Ill run a CF and 8 in inline through the hoods. The plants will be put in soil, subcool's recipe, and grown in 7 gallon pots. I believe the area space is 12x15 with the water heater and ac in a small room in the corner. I plan to keep 1 mother, 12 in veg if they'll fit and 24 in flower (harvest every 4 weeks). I have yet to get my pots down there and space them out to see how the room fairs. I know ill have to add a an ac at some point. If this all makes sense do you have any pointers?

Mostly concerned with the electrical as previously i only had 1 lamp to worry about and 2-3 plants so odor control and the fans were not an issue?

Will i be able to use the lights to there full potential in that space?
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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LiquidGTX said:
Hey phil, you seem to have the knowledge and answers i've been looking for. What can i expect in terms of breakers in an older home my wife and I are buying? I have not had a chance to take a flashlight over to the basement and spend time on the breaker box. I guess my question is what can i do to get a dedicated circuit without paying a fortune for an electrician to come in. If it helps i plan to put in a 1000w digital ballast, and add 2 600w in the future. Ill run a CF and 8 in inline through the hoods. The plants will be put in soil, subcool's recipe, and grown in 7 gallon pots. I believe the area space is 12x15 with the water heater and ac in a small room in the corner. I plan to keep 1 mother, 12 in veg if they'll fit and 24 in flower (harvest every 4 weeks). I have yet to get my pots down there and space them out to see how the room fairs. I know ill have to add a an ac at some point. If this all makes sense do you have any pointers?

Mostly concerned with the electrical as previously i only had 1 lamp to worry about and 2-3 plants so odor control and the fans were not an issue?

Will i be able to use the lights to there full potential in that space?
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Hey Liquid, thanks for stopping by.

If it is an older home then you could have a number of different electrical hookups. It could be anything from an old 60amp fuse box to an upgraded 200amp breaker panel. You really need to look at the loadcenter and see what it is and how many amps it has. Homes are usually wired electrically by zones so that means that the most likely all of the existing outlets in your grow area are all on 1 circuit; probably 15-20amps. If you are running your light at 120v then it is pulling between 9 and 10amps depending on the ballast. Since your grow room is in the basement and you said that your loadcenter is down there too then it really isn't going to be hard for you to wire an additional outlet to that area. If you can take a picture of the loadcenter (breaker panel/fuse box) and post it on here then that would help alot. Also, if it is a breaker panel then take the cover off and take a picture of that as well. Also, try and figure out which fuse/breaker is for the outlets in your grow area. Most likely you'll be able to wire something yourself with a little help from me for less than $100.

You can PM me if you want.
 
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LiquidGTX

Member
Thank you phil, Next time the realtor lets us in for our final showing ill be sure to take some nice pictures of the breaker box i saw in the basement. Im a mechanical person so ill definitely be asking around for help. I've looked into 100 amp dual breakers (my understanding its 2 50 amp breakers on #8? wire?) but ill be sure to ask a 100 questions so that electricity is not my problem and i can focus on the one thing most important. The plants!
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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LiquidGTX said:
Thank you phil, Next time the realtor lets us in for our final showing ill be sure to take some nice pictures of the breaker box i saw in the basement. Im a mechanical person so ill definitely be asking around for help. I've looked into 100 amp dual breakers (my understanding its 2 50 amp breakers on #8? wire?) but ill be sure to ask a 100 questions so that electricity is not my problem and i can focus on the one thing most important. The plants!
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Glad to help bud. One thing though; you won't need 100amps in your grow room inless you are putting in 6,000w of lighting. A dual breaker is just 2 breakers that fit into 1 slot on your breaker panel. Each breaker would still require their own #8 or #6 line depending on the distance or the wiring run. If you are somewhat handy then I can walk you through the process fairly easily. Having pictures of the panel with the cover off is your first step. Just post here or send me a PM when you get that.
 
TheGreenHornet

TheGreenHornet

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Here are my thoughts.. I did some math and I just cant afford the 6 600's. I am going to have to go with 4 for now and see what happens.


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I was also wondering, the subpanel I need is around 100 bucks right?
 
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