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got a couple ? for ya phil you can probablyhelp me with, first my dry ass 0% humidity basement turned into an 80% humidity room after the first rain im either A) gonna buy a portable AC for the basement. but rght now my girl is bitch n at and and making me wait. so whats a good dehumidifer for a 5x7x5 area thats pretty cheap its co2 sealed for most of the time but for 12 hours its venting out. i was thinking one of those 40$ mini dehu from home depot on only when sealed or some damprid but i dont know how effective damp rid is?

Quick question.....how possible would it be to pull 2 # from a 1000 watt light? Going between doing the 8 600W over the flood tables or doing 4 1000W with each light covering a 5X5 area. Still trying to figure out what I want to do...lol.

polyarcturus said:

got a couple ? for ya phil you can probablyhelp me with, first my dry ass 0% humidity basement turned into an 80% humidity room after the first rain im either A) gonna buy a portable AC for the basement. but rght now my girl is bitch n at and and making me wait. so whats a good dehumidifer for a 5x7x5 area thats pretty cheap its co2 sealed for most of the time but for 12 hours its venting out. i was thinking one of those 40$ mini dehu from home depot on only when sealed or some damprid but i dont know how effective damp rid is?

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Hey Poly, with dehumidifiers more than air conditioners you want a unit that runs efficiently because a dehumidifier produces heat. I would say a Danby or Sunpentown 30 pint would be perfect. Probably run you $100.

phishtank said:

Quick question.....how possible would it be to pull 2 # from a 1000 watt light? Going between doing the 8 600W over the flood tables or doing 4 1000W with each light covering a 5X5 area. Still trying to figure out what I want to do...lol.

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Basically you would need a little under 0.9g per watt to get 2lbs from a 1000w light. Very possible but you would need to change your layout to take advantage of the full footprint from the light. The flood tables would work still but you would have to change the payout of the plants on them. Move the plants toward to outside of the tables.

I'd have to use different tables. I plan on building tables so any size is fine. Figured 5X5 table would work well. Still might go with the original plant...just trying to plan out the most efficient use of everything.

you say the dehu over the portable ac? i though AC would be more useful as it cools the air as well as dehumidifies it. but i was looking at sunpentown im thinking im gonna go with the portable and go ahead and buy the big boy dehu anyways(later after AC). im gonna need them both in the end.

wont let me give some rep so i guess it will have to wait.

phishtank said:

I'd have to use different tables. I plan on building tables so any size is fine. Figured 5X5 table would work well. Still might go with the original plant...just trying to plan out the most efficient use of everything.

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4' tables will stil work. If you have plants on the outside then they will grow out to 5' if the main stem is at 4'. Just a thought.

polyarcturus said:

you say the dehu over the portable ac? i though AC would be more useful as it cools the air as well as dehumidifies it. but i was looking at sunpentown im thinking im gonna go with the portable and go ahead and buy the big boy dehu anyways(later after AC). im gonna need them both in the end.

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I just assumed you weren't going to be able to get the a/c right now. Also, you never mentioned any problems with heat. If you get a portable a/c just make usreit's one with an evaporation coil or at least that you have somewhere to drain it to. Draining the drip pans on those things can be tedious sometimes. Plus, if you are worried about humidity; remember that your a/c usually won't run during the dark cycle that much. Air cooled a/c units can only dehumidify when the condensor is on and the a/c is working. This means you coul have humidity spikes when the lights are off. Thanks for the intended +rep!

no problems with heat becase of experience, but a few minor switchs back to the way i run the room in the winter and my heeat will be perfect (with AC) and my lighting will be too.(right now i have a 400w dimmed to 250 and i added 2 t12 shop lights till i got a t5 fixture to replace it all for the summer months) and the humidity has settled, but like i said it not 100% sealed room so at night when vents are on the humidity only gets up to 54% its only when i seal it it jumps up to 80%
not worried about emptying or dripping water i usually take care of theses thing immediately.... good answer though and the only reson i wasnt buying the AC is not price but inconvenience if i spend a 100$ on the dehu i may well just save and spen 200$ on the AC. im just gonna hit up craigslist till i find a good portable AC for 100-200$ range (also i could convert my window AC to portable for about 50$ i was thinking dehumidifying would be easier never had humidity problems b4 and all my big grow rooms had plenty of AC) i have the money she will just bitch that i spent it, haha o well, its my money so she will have to deal with it. but at least i took her word into consideration it just not feasible to follow her advice, i will spend more money buying one piece at a time, over time. at least as far as something like this goes thx man

I wish your thread was up when I was building and setting up my rooms! This is great info!

What's an effective footprint for a 600 watt HPS and 400 watt HPS? I'm looking at building 3x3ft scrog frames and am trying to figure out my setup. I've been thinking 6 set up 2, 2, 2 in line.

Based on what you have seen on my thread any thoughts on how to make the most of what I've got?

Thanks for the help

Oh yeah + Rep!

johnnymcpotts said:

I wish your thread was up when I was building and setting up my rooms! This is great info!

What's an effective footprint for a 600 watt HPS and 400 watt HPS? I'm looking at building 3x3ft scrog frames and am trying to figure out my setup. I've been thinking 6 set up 2, 2, 2 in line.

Based on what you have seen on my thread any thoughts on how to make the most of what I've got?

Thanks for the help

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Hey Johnny, Welcome Welcome!!

The OPTIMAL footprint for a 600w light is 4'x4' at 12" from the canopy. For a 400w light it is 3'x3' at 8" from the canopy. You can stretch that a little if you have lights next to eachother as their light will overlap on the sides that face eachother thus giving you an area with overlapping light from 2 different sources. Lumes and Footcandles are stackable.

Best of luck man. Let me know if you need anything bud.

[FONT=Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Hey Philip, I see that you are far more experienced in this field than I. I'm working with a room that is 5x8 with 8 feet of hieght. This room has ducting running to it from the attic and A/C works great. I would greatly appreciate it if you could possibly draw me something for these specs. I'm planning on (1) t5 that will eventually be changed to a 1000w hps, on roughly 8 plants. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/FONT]

MrStoney said:

Hey Philip, I see that you are far more experienced in this field than I. I'm working with a room that is 5x8 with 8 feet of hieght. This room has ducting running to it from the attic and A/C works great. I would greatly appreciate it if you could possibly draw me something for these specs. I'm planning on (1) t5 that will eventually be changed to a 1000w hps, on roughly 8 plants. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Hey Stoney, welcome. Mind telling me where the door and any windows are at (i.e. 5' wall, south side)? Unless you are doing a SOG I'm pretty sure that a T5 won't handle 8 plants. If it is a SOG you are going to need a 6 or 8 bulb unit. Any other equipment in the room like fans, filters, etc..?

Of course man. 8' walls on the north and south side with a door entering from north, 5' walls east and west. I most likely will be doing SOG. If need be I can always go with a larger unit. I will be placing a couple oscillating wall fans according to what i feel is necessary. Possibly a filter later down the road. Also, is it a bad idea to run ducting from my light to the attic(too cool?) thanks again!

Honestly Stoney, I don't think you really need my help. A T5 isn't going to produce enough heat to even worry about. Just hang it from the ceiling and put a table under it with the plants on them. You are not trying to seperate this room into a veg and flower room. Growing SOG with 8 plants you only need 1 oscillating fan and you don't need any ducting unless you get a carbon filter. Then you can just scrub the air and exhaust it right back into the room. I mean, I could draw up a plan for you but what would really be on it?

phill will hook u up

hey what do u think about t8s? i saw a 6 tube t8 at HD for 60$

Well I guess all is well and I greatly appreciate the input, good man! Might be back for some questions down the road. Thanks.