GroErr Grows...

ttystikk

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No different on either side of the border, greed driven policy never works for long. Will be interesting to see where it goes but lots of turmoil for a while I'd think for all of us.
I'd like to think the Canadians could take a long, hard look at where corporate driven oligopoly has gotten the United States and act accordingly. I may be asking a lot of our neighbors- but a bad example is perhaps the most instructive.
 

GroErr

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I'd like to think the Canadians could take a long, hard look at where corporate driven oligopoly has gotten the United States and act accordingly. I may be asking a lot of our neighbors- but a bad example is perhaps the most instructive.
Yeah, not looking that way over here, blinders on, quick $ signs is all they're seeing, no long term thinking. Investors with deep pockets are driving policy and keeping it as tightly closed as they can to line their own pockets. Huge mistake, like you said, this could be the next .com and drive all kinds of small business opportunities, create jobs, generate tax revenue, but spread the wealth across a wider range than the few connected players with deep pockets.

I have to think longer term the market will open up. We didn't get to this point by toeing the line, if they don't do it right the market will right itself. That could be in the form of an adjusted black/grey market in areas where the greed invites black market opportunities :)
 

GroErr

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Got the next round in there tonight. 4x 5gal, they've had a few weeks veg, 3 are ~30" above the soil, the smaller one is 24". That's after spreading them out in the trellises, they should be large, 42"-48" after the stretch. Lot of blue in this round. 2x Blue Pyramid from Pyramid Seeds, looking for a replacement pheno I lost a while back. The last pheno was like pulling hash chunks off the vine. One is smaller, I popped them about 2 weeks apart. 1x Blue Ripper, this is my control strain to see how these lights behave, the rest are from seed. Last one is a 1st reg F1 cross of Blue Ripper (M) x Harlequin (hoping it's fem, this thing showed a few hairs early, then nothing since). 2nd pic has them tagged for reference.

Lights are configured with the 315w SS LEC in the middle, flanked by 1x 100w Tasty LED T2-1400's on each side (LEC wasn't on when I took the pic but you can see the reflector above the first Tasty bar). The LEC will run a bit higher than the LED bars so should get a good cross-over from both. Should be good, mixing spectrum from 2 of the best light sources should build some nice colas :)

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Im asking the jolly fat elf for 3 of the 150w CoB sticks for Christmas....I'm hoping the 3 will effectively replace one 600w hps system.
Hey skunkwreck, be good and hopefully Santa will bring you some of these :) 450w of 3590's would blow away the 600 based on what I'm seeing here with 300w. That Blue Ripper has more weight than any previous clones of it in 3gal, no question there.
 

GroErr

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Another option would be to run those CXB3590 at 75W each on a 320H driver. Efficiency loss is minimal, you get 300W of output and by itself it will replace a 600W HPS.
Yeah I'd agree on 300w doing it, I'm pretty sure with this multiple bar config I could run/space those 3x 100w bars (1.4A) in a 3x4' and get some nice weight with a decent producer. I can see adding another 2x 100w soon ;)
 

GroErr

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Ok some Day 1 adjustments - lol I had this in mind and went ahead and did it last night. I have those 2x 100w bars flanking the LEC but with them pointing straight down the spectrum mix is mainly on the outside edges, not likely getting many LED photons towards the center.

I have those 100w bars hanging with 4x chains, I adjusted them to angle (slight, like 25 degrees or so) so they're covering the edges well still but throwing photons towards the center as well and should mix it up better. Long way to go but room is dialed in with some adjustments (I was running 300w & 12gal of medium, now 515w/20gal), just increased my intake and exhaust a bit and brought the temps and RH back in line where I want them (78-81F/45 to 50% RH). Let's rock & roll!

2nd pic shows all the lighting fixtures including the 65w 630/660nm panel that goes 10 minutes before lights on (left), and the 730nm bar (right-wall) that goes 10 minutes after light out.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

Bbcchance

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Ok some Day 1 adjustments - lol I had this in mind and went ahead and did it last night. I have those 2x 100w bars flanking the LEC but with them pointing straight down the spectrum mix is mainly on the outside edges, not likely getting many LED photons towards the center.

I have those 100w bars hanging with 4x chains, I adjusted them to angle (slight, like 25 degrees or so) so they're covering the edges well still but throwing photons towards the center as well and should mix it up better. Long way to go but room is dialed in with some adjustments (I was running 300w & 12gal of medium, now 515w/20gal), just increased my intake and exhaust a bit and brought the temps and RH back in line where I want them (78-81F/45 to 50% RH). Let's rock & roll!

2nd pic shows all the lighting fixtures including the 65w 630/660nm panel that goes 10 minutes before lights on (left), and the 730nm bar (right-wall) that goes 10 minutes after light out.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
I do a similar thing with hps and blurples, I hang the led at a tilt angle and aim them into the path of the hps
 

GroErr

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You know how it is, life gives you lemons you find someone with potatos and have them make vodka and use your lemons to make salty dogs or somethin, not sure how the saying really goes
Exactly the use I have for the extra Top LED (now MARS) reflector blurple panels. They veg well and the one hanging in the flower room just comes on for 10 minutes at a time, when you turn on the "Bloom" switch and leave the "Grow" switch off, all you get are the red diodes at about 65W. making some use of my lemons - lol
 

Javadog

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OK, late as usual.

Will you look at how fat that top bud is! Compare it to the doorknob!

Good stems on this breed, for sure.

Nice job. Congrats on completing the cycle.

Now back to read up on the changes.... :0)

JD
 

GroErr

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OK, late as usual.

Will you look at how fat that top bud is! Compare it to the doorknob!

Good stems on this breed, for sure.

Nice job. Congrats on completing the cycle.

Now back to read up on the changes.... :0)

JD
Cheers JD, she's liking those COBs. Will be interesting to see how her 5gal sister goes this round. She's bottom-right in the pic and much larger than that "little" 3gal coming in. Changes for this round are mixing the CMH + COBs to see what happens with the mixed light source, 515w vs. 300w, and 5gal vs. 3gal. The fan at the top-right corner is 30" H, these will be monsters once they stretch, I'm thinking 3.5'x5' or so :)

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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