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Crash32097

Crash32097

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Cookies and Chem, top cola, I don't keep track of days anymore. I've been trying to get better at harvesting by not counting days and eyeballing the plant for for pistils, trichomes, and calyx size. Overall I'm happy with how she turned out, will chop the lowers next week. My dreamcatcher will be the next to come down in about 1.5 weeks.IMG_20180823_094928146.jpg IMG_20180823_140054119.jpg
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Crash32097 said:
Cookies and Chem, top cola, I don't keep track of days anymore. I've been trying to get better at harvesting by not counting days and eyeballing the plant for for pistils, trichomes, and calyx size. Overall I'm happy with how she turned out, will chop the lowers next week. My dreamcatcher will be the next to come down in about 1.5 weeks.View attachment 4186663 View attachment 4186665
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Nice bro, how's the flavors/smells?
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
I haven't seen anywhere that advertised them as being no heat. Less sure. They are incredibly cooler than hps that cover the same area. I could never run 3 1k watt lights without ac cooled hoods hooked into an out in a single bedroom. I can definitely run 3 led's that cover the same 4'x12' area with no out and ac cooled hoods. On top of that higher par ratings and way more canopy penetration. A 4inch-6 inch out will be needed in hotter areas. The ac in the home has one vent in the room and is set to 73. The room is 84 degree max. I am doing that right now. I am also using half the power. Tell us again how they are not cooler and not twice as efficient. It is far from a myth that they are much cooler and couldn't be more obvious to anyone who has experience with both.
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Heat is based on watts used not the type of light you used, it's thermodyanmics. 1000w hps produces same heat load as 1000w of LEDs. The only difference is the dispersion of heat. LEDs disperse heat through the heat sink, HID lights have heat radiate from the bulb.

Also intensity is determined by the inverse square law, so the stronger the initial value the further the light can travel without diminishing returns, aka a 1kw de bulb can be hung significantly higher than a 1kw led panel since the intensity of the panel is spread out over many diodes and the DE bulb has a single point.

Finally PAR ratings can be really deceiving, the more blue light you have the higher your par, however blue light sucks ass for flowering cannabis and most hps lights don't contain anywhere near as much blue as LEDs do but they contain a crapload more red, so don't always look at par numbers to see how effectively a light can flower plants.
 
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Yodaweed said:
Heat is based on watts used not the type of light you used, it's thermodyanmics. 1000w hps produces same heat load as 1000w of LEDs. The only difference is the dispersion of heat. LEDs disperse heat through the heat sink, HID lights have heat radiate from the bulb.
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This is not correct. Hps and led do not convert watts to light and heat at the same ratio. When run soft led is much more efficient at turning watts into usable light with less waste heat.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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ShyGuru said:
This is not correct. Hps and led do not convert watts to light and heat at the same ratio. When run soft led is much more efficient at turning watts into usable light with less waste heat.
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Efficiency does not matter all light turns into heat. Plant's do not absorb enough to make any difference in the amount of light turned to heat, all light turns to heat and plants don't absorb heat or perspire it.

If you don't understand i'd read this thread for a better understanding.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/heat-from-1200w-of-1212s-vero-29s-cxm-22-cxb3590-compared-to-2x-600w.936071/

Here's some quotes from that thread so you can have a better grasp on things.

Stephenj37826 said:
You have 2 different heat types when dealing with HID vs LED...... That said the same wattage in LED will produce the same heat but you will more easily manage the LED side as the waste heat is directly transmitted to the air as with HID the waste heat will be in the form of Infrared hear which will soak everything the light touches with additional heat...... So to answer what you are asking it will be easier to manage the LED side especially since you want to run 5+° warmer with LED to achieve optimal leaf surface temperatures vs HID.
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frica said:
Because the light will also turn into heat eventually, and since that light stays in your room it becomes heat in your room.

Photosynthesis stores some energy inside the plant (doesn't become heat), but photosynthesis is rather inefficienct so you can safely ignore it.
So 1200W will always be 1200W.
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PSUAGRO. said:
It's about the same amount of heat generated

Amps x volts= watts

1 watt= 3.4 btu/hr
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NoWaistedSpace

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Yodaweed said:
Efficiency does not matter all light turns into heat. Plant's do not absorb enough to make any difference in the amount of light turned to heat, all light turns to heat and plants don't absorb heat or perspire it.

If you don't understand i'd read this thread for a better understanding.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/heat-from-1200w-of-1212s-vero-29s-cxm-22-cxb3590-compared-to-2x-600w.936071/

Here's some quotes from that thread so you can have a better grasp on things.
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I am getting a lot more production out of 1000 watts LED than 1000 watts HPS. Plants are a lot cooler, also because the heat is above the lights and not below. The plants respond better. For me LEDs have been a win win.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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Yodaweed said:
Efficiency does not matter all light turns into heat. Plant's do not absorb enough to make any difference in the amount of light turned to heat, all light turns to heat and plants don't absorb heat or perspire it.

If you don't understand i'd read this thread for a better understanding.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/heat-from-1200w-of-1212s-vero-29s-cxm-22-cxb3590-compared-to-2x-600w.936071/

Here's some quotes from that thread so you can have a better grasp on things.
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None of which indicates anything about the effectiveness of the wattage consumed, in terms of growing plants.

Lamp efficiency (micromoles per Joule) and effectiveness (ppf) are different things, and both are important. Modern LED tech is measurably superior in both of those areas.

Yes, there’s still the same amount of heat per wattage, but the ratio of photons to heat is much better, don’t try to obfuscate that very simple fact, please.

One can use less wattage for similar results or the same wattage for, potentially, greater results; limits of biology and inputs notwithstanding.

Let it go, Yodaweed.
 
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natureboygrower

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macsnax said:
You guys are funny. In other news, I applied athena biosis for the first time today. We shall see, I should be doing a side by side to get a better idea what it actually does. Stuff turns water black, I'm not sure how I would feel about running this in hydro.
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At what ratio? I used 1.5g/gallon and the plant I watered last night was praying this morning.
 
BigHornBuds

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Went on “vacation”, got lucky and it got cut short by a week.
My helper is someone with zero grow experience but I trust him. Well the power went out n it went to default setting.
But things are alive , n I’ll get thing back in ship shape over the next few days.
(Veg took it harder)

Hickok Haze @65 Days
Hoping it will be ready in 2wks , at 90days it’s getting cut ready or not . 4A1E3A16-A2B6-48D4-80B0-97E29A7D80B5.jpeg
My PineBerryKush @ 6wks in the forground
I’m not happy with it’s yield, hoping to have it ready for the masses in about a year.
Lots don’t like it cause it’s too strong, it can fuck your day if not careful. Best left to after dinner.
 
Goats22

Goats22

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BigHornBuds said:
Went on “vacation”, got lucky and it got cut short by a week.
My helper is someone with zero grow experience but I trust him. Well the power went out n it went to default setting.
But things are alive , n I’ll get thing back in ship shape over the next few days.
(Veg took it harder)

Hickok Haze @65 Days
Hoping it will be ready in 2wks , at 90days it’s getting cut ready or not . View attachment 4186734
My PineBerryKush @ 6wks in the forground
I’m not happy with it’s yield, hoping to have it ready for the masses in about a year.
Lots don’t like it cause it’s too strong, it can fuck your day if not careful. Best left to after dinner.
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hooooooooo those HH are beasts BHB! i can't wait to see that finish up. what're you flowering next?
 
Goats22

Goats22

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Chunky Stool said:
A 5 star review of Pig Whistle... :dunce:
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Kindestcloset707 (verified owner) – April 5, 2018

Every strain greenpoint does is amazing! I bought a pack of these and 7 others, can’t wait! Its been popping time

1 out of 17 people found this helpful.
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lol classic greenpoint review right there.
at least the new site has the ability to basically mark it as a shitpost. i only really pay attention to the ones people found helpful, and the ones with pictures.
 
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