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nc208

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i think you have thrips homie :(

edit - read ahead and this has been discussed already. good luck with the ladybugs. thrips are one of the easier pests to get rid of. simple store bought insecticidal soap wipes them out quickly for me.
What are your thoughts on applying it midway through flower? Ie 30 days in and lots of bud? I'm in a similar boat and I dunno if I should be spraying buds this late.
 

Thegermling

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What are your thoughts on applying it midway through flower? Ie 30 days in and lots of bud? I'm in a similar boat and I dunno if I should be spraying buds this late.
Ive been using "Purecrop1" (killed some PM I had) Ive seen a video where a dispensary dunked their freshly harvested crop in the stuff (thats how safe they claim it is). Zero residuals, increases brix count and much more go to their website. I am not in anyway shape or form affiliated with both these products. You can get a sample through here on the Monster garden thread. I also use Dr Zymes "Eliminator" and rotate it with PC1 to prevent anything building up resistance. From now on if I ever get something in any stage of flower ill use PC1.
 

slow drawl

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What ratios do you miss the agsil and neem? That sounds worth a try this best time around.
I mix .5 tsp Agsil with 1 Tbsp of Neem in a shot glass and mix it until it froths up good. Mix that with 1 gal almost hot water and couple shots of dawn dish soap. Shake vigorously though out application. Drench plants especially the under side.
 

Goats22

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What are your thoughts on applying it midway through flower? Ie 30 days in and lots of bud? I'm in a similar boat and I dunno if I should be spraying buds this late.
i would try avoid it if i thought i could for sure. however, if they're getting bad, i would spray and then wash my buds at harvest before drying them.

i definitely try to avoid flipping unless i'm sure i'm pest-free. i even sometimes spray once or twice in the first few days of 12/12 as a preventative measure.
 

slow drawl

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What are your thoughts on applying it midway through flower? Ie 30 days in and lots of bud? I'm in a similar boat and I dunno if I should be spraying buds this late.
Excuse me while I insert my 2 cents. I would first strip all infected leaves and never spray past the 2nd week of flower. I've sprayed one time during flower because I was weak on my preventative treatments and realized I had spider mites, not bad but I had em. I freaked out and sprayed some azamax and induced PM to the point that I lost most of my crop. I feel if I get lazy and don't stay on top of things there will always be a price to pay and sometimes there's no fixing it.
 

Chunky Stool

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Excuse me while I insert my 2 cents. I would first strip all infected leaves and never spray past the 2nd week of flower. I've sprayed one time during flower because I was weak on my preventative treatments and realized I had spider mites, not bad but I had em. I freaked out and sprayed some azamax and induced PM to the point that I lost most of my crop. I feel if I get lazy and don't stay on top of things there will always be a price to pay and sometimes there's no fixing it.
It's very important to catch problems early, so I scan with a flashlight at least once a week.

Works *great* for seeing insects and makes hermies much easier to spot.

Right before you turn on the lights and it's still pitch black, use a bright flashlight to slowly scan your plants and the surrounding area.

If you're checking for hermies, look upward from the bottom. Male flowers have a distinct yellow color that gives them away.
 

nc208

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Excuse me while I insert my 2 cents. I would first strip all infected leaves and never spray past the 2nd week of flower. I've sprayed one time during flower because I was weak on my preventative treatments and realized I had spider mites, not bad but I had em. I freaked out and sprayed some azamax and induced PM to the point that I lost most of my crop. I feel if I get lazy and don't stay on top of things there will always be a price to pay and sometimes there's no fixing it.
That's exactly what I did but now I feel the plant will suffer taking away a lot of its food source and such. I also threw up a bunch of those yellow sticky traps and increased air movement making it harder for bugs to stay on leaves. I admit I got lazy and wasn't inspecting them as much as I should have.

@Goats22 what do you use as a preventative that you mentioned?
 

growslut

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Its strange how spraying during flower is avoided like the plauge indoors, but outdoors many growers would say its a necessity.

I've been spraying spinosad on the outdoor plants every 10 days going on 8 weeks of flower and its been a lifesaver keeping bugs away.

I agree less spraying in flower is always better, but if you've got an insect problem I might go ahead and spray. Spinosad doesn't turn the pistils brown and should leave the plant after 3 days exposure to light. Neem also dissipates after 3 days, but spraying neem will not stop an ongoing infestation and will turn the pistils prematurely brown.
 

socaljoe

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Its strange how spraying during flower is avoided like the plauge indoors, but outdoors many growers would say its a necessity.

I've been spraying spinosad on the outdoor plants every 10 days going on 8 weeks of flower and its been a lifesaver keeping bugs away.

I agree less spraying in flower is always better, but if you've got an insect problem I might go ahead and spray. Spinosad doesn't turn the pistils brown and should leave the plant after 3 days exposure to light. Neem also dissipates after 3 days, but spraying neem will not stop an ongoing infestation and will turn the pistils prematurely brown.
I'm outdoor, and I try to avoid spraying if at all possible. When I do spray, I try to stick to either BT or insecticidal soap, no hardcore pesticides. But at the end of the day, you've gotta do what you've gotta do...better to spray than to lose a significant portion of your harvest.

I like the old adage "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". I've draped my flowering plants in a fine mesh insect netting to hopefully keep moths out, thereby preventing budworms.

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Goats22

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That's exactly what I did but now I feel the plant will suffer taking away a lot of its food source and such. I also threw up a bunch of those yellow sticky traps and increased air movement making it harder for bugs to stay on leaves. I admit I got lazy and wasn't inspecting them as much as I should have.

@Goats22 what do you use as a preventative that you mentioned?
i use this stuff. got it at rona and it works just fine. it claims to be usable right up until harvest, but i would definitely wash my buds if i used it in flower past like week 3. it leaves a soapy residue that i wouldn't want to smoke, even if it's 'safe'.

 

socaljoe

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i use this stuff. got it at rona and it works just fine. it claims to be usable right up until harvest, but i would definitely wash my buds if i used it in flower past like week 3. it definitely leaves a soapy residue that i wouldn't want to smoke, even if it's 'safe'.

Love that stuff. My cucumbers were infested with whiteflies, one application of insecticidal soap wiped them out.
 
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