Greenhouse vs Raised Bed vs Large Hole

dirrtyd

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View attachment 1582628 I love GC!!! this was my girl from last season! GC has never did me wrong! always produces well with great quality!
I agree it will always be a part of my arsenal going to do two or three this year I like the smoke. The longer the cure the better. There will be a update and pics tomorrow. I will be trying a new technique up against the fence called serpentine layering. keepem green dirtyd
 

MediGrow530

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I agree it will always be a part of my arsenal going to do two or three this year I like the smoke. The longer the cure the better. There will be a update and pics tomorrow. I will be trying a new technique up against the fence called serpentine layering. keepem green dirtyd
serpentine layering?? hmm ima look that up! sounds interesting!
 

dirrtyd

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serpentine layering?? hmm ima look that up! sounds interesting!
Medi, basically what I do is strip one side of the plant lay it in the ground level with the rootball. Then I cover the branch with dirt and let the plant grow. Generally all the covered area will grow roots so as we all know more root mass more plant more buds. Keepem green dirrtyd
 

MediGrow530

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Medi, basically what I do is strip one side of the plant lay it in the ground level with the rootball. Then I cover the branch with dirt and let the plant grow. Generally all the covered area will grow roots so as we all know more root mass more plant more buds. Keepem green dirrtyd
very interesting and advanced!!!!! LOL im interested in seeing the results!
 

Metasynth

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Serpentine layering is cool, it's pretty much a method of cloning, except the clones are still attached to the mother! All those new roots will be supplying that "branch" with lots of water and nutes, essentially it becomes new plant all together. I wonder if the authorities would still consider it one plant? I guess it depents on how large the layered branches grow. Very nice, I love experiments! This is actually something I've been thinking about trying for a few months now, except I want to try it indoors first...but since you're taking the bullet for me, I'll just watch your grow! Keep it interesting!
 

dirrtyd

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Serpentine layering is cool, it's pretty much a method of cloning, except the clones are still attached to the mother! All those new roots will be supplying that "branch" with lots of water and nutes, essentially it becomes new plant all together. I wonder if the authorities would still consider it one plant? I guess it depents on how large the layered branches grow. Very nice, I love experiments! This is actually something I've been thinking about trying for a few months now, except I want to try it indoors first...but since you're taking the bullet for me, I'll just watch your grow! Keep it interesting!
It's not cloning farmers have been doing this for years. It still is considered just one plant I know some growers on other forums who have been doing this for years because of plant limits. They feel they can get more out of the plant this way especially with low yielding strains. It will be interesting for sure I'm almost finish with the trough that the plant will lay in. In the ground when I plant All that is buried in soil eventually will grow roots. Keepem green dirrtyd
 

angryblackman

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Hmm so could I do this with a stretched out clone? Say I could get the top to ground level could I bury the main stalk and the same would apply?
 

Metasynth

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"You can also do what is known as Serpentine Layering.Serpentine layering is done exactly the same way as regular layering, with the exception that if the branch you are layering is long enough, you can loop it underground more than once.

In order to do serpentine layering, you must leave a few buds exposed to the air and sunlight after each loop that dips underground. Each one of these loops will develop into a new plant."

So each loop develops into a new plant...lol...I know, obviously it might be different when layering MJ, but most commercial farmers who use serpentine layering use it as a method of propogation, eventually removing the layered plants from the mother. Maybe the commercial farmer definition confused me, so I'm sorry if I called it a method of cloning. It really is it's own individual technique. ;)
 

dirrtyd

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Hmm so could I do this with a stretched out clone? Say I could get the top to ground level could I bury the main stalk and the same would apply?
Not fully understanding but check out the post above that is what I'm doing with one plant it should be cool. Now if you mean removing some of the lower branches then planting up to that point yes roots should grow . keepem green dirrtyd
 

dirrtyd

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"You can also do what is known as Serpentine Layering.Serpentine layering is done exactly the same way as regular layering, with the exception that if the branch you are layering is long enough, you can loop it underground more than once.

In order to do serpentine layering, you must leave a few buds exposed to the air and sunlight after each loop that dips underground. Each one of these loops will develop into a new plant."

So each loop develops into a new plant...lol...I know, obviously it might be different when layering MJ, but most commercial farmers who use serpentine layering use it as a method of propogation, eventually removing the layered plants from the mother. Maybe the commercial farmer definition confused me, so I'm sorry if I called it a method of cloning. It really is it's own individual technique. ;)
Now that you have the concept down check out ICMAG and you can learn how to apply it too MJ. Or just follow this thread and you will definitely see it in action before the end of the Month. keepem green dirrtyd
 

angryblackman

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Not fully understanding but check out the post above that is what I'm doing with one plant it should be cool. Now if you mean removing some of the lower branches then planting up to that point yes roots should grow . keepem green dirrtyd
Same concept as the picture posted but using the main cola. I have a super stretchy Green Crack right now and instead of topping I was thinking about trying the layering. I may just see what yours does and try it later in the season. :D
 

dirrtyd

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Same concept as the picture posted but using the main cola. I have a super stretchy Green Crack right now and instead of topping I was thinking about trying the layering. I may just see what yours does and try it later in the season. :D
Trust me the GC needs no topping it will do its thing. The bigger the hole and root mass and she will give you a few lbs. Going to look for some blue dream today. I want to see how it will do sticking straight in the ground now. Let me know when you come to the Bay. Got some beans for you Dj short Blueberry. keepem green dirrtyd
 

angryblackman

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Nice! I will actually be in SJ Monday but it's for a funeral. :( I will probably be back out that way in the beginning of June as well. :)

I will leave the GC to it's thing.. It actually put on some nice growth over the last couple of days! :D It's gonna be a nice summer! :D
 

blower

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subbed. dirrtyd good idea lol i was just debating on same matter. which is better against thiefs and for better roots? a hole or raised beds that transfer to bottom soil?
 

dirrtyd

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Nice! I will actually be in SJ Monday but it's for a funeral. :( I will probably be back out that way in the beginning of June as well. :)

I will leave the GC to it's thing.. It actually put on some nice growth over the last couple of days! :D It's gonna be a nice summer! :D
Pm when you get a minute you have to pass me to get home and there. Five minutes and you got some beans. dirrtyd
 

dirrtyd

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subbed. dirrtyd good idea lol i was just debating on same matter. which is better against thiefs and for better roots? a hole or raised beds that transfer to bottom soil?
I replied on your thread I have seen monsters grown both ways.

hey for indoor what do you suggest if plants are in veg-stage, and are ready for 12/12?
If they are ready for flower do your thang I only grow year round outside. Next I will start seedlings to flower in November and December in the greenhouse. keepem green dirrtyd
 

blower

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coco is harder to maintain outdoors? more waterings right?
or just stick with supersoil and organic powders like dirrtyd'???
 

dirrtyd

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coco is harder to maintain outdoors? more waterings right?
or just stick with supersoil and organic powders like dirrtyd'???
I have never grown in coco so I wouldnt know the answer. Now supersoil and organic powders works and you really dont need alot to grow some nice plants. Plus I like the idea of water only and maybe a few supplemental teas. keepem green dirrtyd
 
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