Ghs trainwreck & bigbang grow 250w

update on the BB and TW, both have been repotted, the bucket is a 4.5 gallon and the pot is a 4 gallon!!! i have used westlands advance plus, the same as what i used on the snowwhites but with the added plus no foxfarm stuff here guys

this time im gonna have a go at LST'ing, so far i have topped after the fourth node so should give me 6 dominant colas and 2 less dominant ones and i have pulled them over and pin'd them down with a tent peg, then i will pull them each top down and top each top so then they should go wild!!!! god knows how many tops i will have on each plant!! the trainwreck had a mad stretch but thats not a problem now that shes tied down

and with the revegging plant, i have repotted into a larger pot to get a big strong root ball before she gets planted out, when shes out i will start a new journal for that one in the outdoor section.

any way here they are



BIG BANG


TRAIN WRECK

i forgot to add that they are up in the loft vegging now with the HPS, they have been under it now for two days as the pots wiegh to much now to be carrying around.

the other two snow whites get covered up with a large box at the other end of the attic for 12 hours before i go to work in the morning, so i can veg and flower with the one light im gonna add a couple of those 45w blues up there to help out.

Looking great tamjam . They will go well under the HPS. I like the way you are working things out with the routine etc. I find you can get into a regular habit of moving plants etc, its what I do.

The Westlands advanced + is good stuff, how much perlite do you add in? Your plants always look healthy mate

so far so good man. =) hope the LST'ing goes good man!! i did an LST grow once.. it turned out pretty cool looking actually.. it grew upwards in a spiral! lol. but it turned out to be a hermie.. soo i had to get rid of it. =/

im thinking about supercropping my next grow. well keep up the good work man! i'll be checkin it out.

maturesmoker said:

Looking great tamjam . They will go well under the HPS. I like the way you are working things out with the routine etc. I find you can get into a regular habit of moving plants etc, its what I do.

The Westlands advanced + is good stuff, how much perlite do you add in? Your plants always look healthy mate

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hello again MS cheers mate, like you said once you get in a routine its not too bad, only got another 5-6 weeks with the small SW's so then all i got is the TW and BB to look after, cant wait oh and the reveg thats going outside

i really like that westlands, i havnt added any perlite/vermiculite, the SW's didnt have any either and even at the end the water was draining through the whole pot evenly, its lovely stuff

chb444220 said:

so far so good man. =) hope the LST'ing goes good man!! i did an LST grow once.. it turned out pretty cool looking actually.. it grew upwards in a spiral! lol. but it turned out to be a hermie.. soo i had to get rid of it. =/

im thinking about supercropping my next grow. well keep up the good work man! i'll be checkin it out.

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good to see you chb i was going to let them go but i havnt tried it before so i went for it, well the SW's did get a bit but nothing major.

thats a shame about the hermie, thats why im always gonna grow two at a time so if one gets ditched i still have a plant.

how exactly does supercropping go?

good to have you along, i keep meaning to stop by yours but always busy lol will do asap

quick question guys, so far they have been topped and pulled over so i should get 8 main colas, 6 will be a bit fatter then 2 of them as the first two are always smaller, and now im thinking of topping each top so i should get 16 main colas!!! or i could top each top after the second node and get 24 main colas!.

does anyone understand that?

i will stick a pic on paint and try and draw what i mean

tamjam69 said:

quick question guys, so far they have been topped and pulled over so i should get 8 main colas, 6 will be a bit fatter then 2 of them as the first two are always smaller, and now im thinking of topping each top so i should get 16 main colas!!! or i could top each top after the second node and get 24 main colas!.

does anyone understand that?

i will stick a pic on paint and try and draw what i mean

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lol i said i have a question but i didnt actually ask a question, does any one have any thoughts about the severe topping im thinking of? like has anyone done this before?

Hey Tam, Just found thread so I am a little late for the show. Can't help ya with the topping questions cause I am still learning about it myself, but I would think you would need to make sure they have a couple days between each cut to let em recovere from the cutting. My biggest concerne would be them going hermie because of all the stress created by topping but thats just me.

Anyway, subed to the show!

Big

bigman4270 said:

Hey Tam, Just found thread so I am a little late for the show. Can't help ya with the topping questions cause I am still learning about it myself, but I would think you would need to make sure they have a couple days between each cut to let em recovere from the cutting. My biggest concerne would be them going hermie because of all the stress created by topping but thats just me.

Anyway, subed to the show!

Big

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hey bigman your not to late the show has just started oh no now you have got me all paronoid about the severe topping lol, i think i may just leave them grow now and just lst more when needed.

will be good to have you along mate

hey MS got a quick question for you

i think i may just keep the reveged SW in the loft and flower it then i dont have to worry about it being pinched. it has loads of new growth theres shoots and new leaves everywhere.

am i right thinking that now would be fine to give it 12/12 and flower it? compared to a seedplant i would say its comparable to a 4 week vegd plant considering the fat branches, amount of growth and the fat rootsystem she has.

any thoughts

quick update, the big bang is flying on but the trainwreck is really taking its time maybe its due to the topping and didnt like it but its shoots have always looked small compared to the, im sure she will take off soon enough though

the reveg plant has also had some lst and is flying on now, has loads and loads of new growth i love this reveg thing, i think people should do it more often, if it will grow again and give you more bud why not!! just seems a waste to me. any way lots of reveg's to come i say. and im seriously loving this SW

also the little snow white clones are doing well, more SW yum yum and as soon as the TW and BB start 12/12 the reveg will too, so should get that box filled up very nicely with fat buds

oh and i have added the 3 45w 6400k cfl's up there to help out.

Nice Journal. I'm very interested to see how the re-veg'd plant turns out.

Teejay13 said:

Nice Journal. I'm very interested to see how the re-veg'd plant turns out.

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cheers mate, im very interested in the re-veg as well, stick around and see how she does

Looking great mate. Now watch that reveg go! I bet you beat the first time yield You're now growing off a much more mature plant second time round and quality will be every bit as good, take that from me. only takes a few weeks and this time of year you can just do it on a windowsill. I got the first SW I cut early revegging too

BB looks great. Removing the main growing shoots does tend to slow things down for a few days but will soon get moving again and like you say, more shoots. In a 12/12 from seed grow for example most would simply let them go, no topping or heavy training, as you want as much growth as fast as possible before they flower but when you're taking time vegging a plant up its well worth taking the time to do it.

maturesmoker said:

Looking great mate. Now watch that reveg go! I bet you beat the first time yield You're now growing off a much more mature plant second time round and quality will be every bit as good, take that from me. only takes a few weeks and this time of year you can just do it on a windowsill. I got the first SW I cut early revegging too

BB looks great. Removing the main growing shoots does tend to slow things down for a few days but will soon get moving again and like you say, more shoots. In a 12/12 from seed grow for example most would simply let them go, no topping or heavy training, as you want as much growth as fast as possible before they flower but when you're taking time vegging a plant up its well worth taking the time to do it.

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good to see you MS, thats good to hear about the re-veg's i expect i will beat my yield compare to last time, i never managed to weigh the SW's but i i had an ounce each from the last two plants, so im sure it will do better as its got fat branches and a monster root system already

but i have one strange thing going on with it! its in 18/6 lighting and has been for over a week before that it was in 24/0 but its flowering aswell??? as in all the new shoots have pistels whats that all about???? im thinking its just down to how mature the plant is, like if you veg a plant long enough it will show sex even without 12/12. am i right? so im thinking as soon as i put it in 12/12 it will bud up very quickly as i dont have to wait for it to show sex.

if all that is right i think that its another good reason to re-veg plants, i think i may keep re-vegging this baby over and over to see how many times it can be done, imagine that this plant good keep me in supply for years and years to come!!!!

any way as long as its gives me an ounce i will be more than happy as im sure im gonna get a good yield from the TW and BB.

oh yeah forgot to add that the trainwreck has finally recovered from the topping the 8 soon to be colas have grown like half an inch today , the main stem and leaves kept on growing but it was just the shoots that stopped to a hault.

those are growin good dude.i have a ghetto setup.haha

Arby said:

those are growin good dude.i have a ghetto setup.haha

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lol dont worry even my setup is pretty ghetto as well, as long as you can get buds from it thats all that matters

tamjam69 said:

but i have one strange thing going on with it! its in 18/6 lighting and has been for over a week before that it was in 24/0 but its flowering aswell??? as in all the new shoots have pistels whats that all about???? im thinking its just down to how mature the plant is, like if you veg a plant long enough it will show sex even without 12/12. am i right? .

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You got it spot on mate She will show pistils as she reveges. Once shes back to 3 normal serrated 3 bladers you can re flower her but let her go a couple more weeks and it will push your second harvest up. Once you switch back to flowering again she will explode with new shoots as she begins to flower. Wish I still had some of my examples to show you but I lost them all when HG420 went down, 4 years worth of pics and threads. I knew a guy who kept just 2 plants going for over 5 years, a Hindu Kush and an AK47, stems like trees from years of revegging but they gave him OZ's of fine bud time after time and thats no word of a lie! You have to push the boundries and experiment sometimes. I'd love to be able to do that

Good luck mate, looking like a nice weekend coming up.

maturesmoker said:

You got it spot on mate She will show pistils as she reveges. Once shes back to 3 normal serrated 3 bladers you can re flower her but let her go a couple more weeks and it will push your second harvest up. Once you switch back to flowering again she will explode with new shoots as she begins to flower. Wish I still had some of my examples to show you but I lost them all when HG420 went down, 4 years worth of pics and threads. I knew a guy who kept just 2 plants going for over 5 years, a Hindu Kush and an AK47, stems like trees from years of revegging but they gave him OZ's of fine bud time after time and thats no word of a lie! You have to push the boundries and experiment sometimes. I'd love to be able to do that

Good luck mate, looking like a nice weekend coming up.

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cheers again for that MS, to keep doing that with 2 plants over 5 years is nuts, just think how much money he has saved!!!! im itching to switch to 12/12 now but i think i may do it on friday that will make the BB and TW 5 weeks old, then i dont have to go moving the plants around anymore. the reveg has loads of new shoots and lots of 3 bladers and im sure by the time she finishes her stretch she will be quite big.

i really hate the vegging stage and love counting the days of 12/12

will do another picture update on friday ( thats if i can wait that long lol )