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MajesticWhelk

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Hey Al,

I just read your "vacation watering system" thread and I was wondering...

Do you use one slacker tank for all four regular reservoirs? And if so, do you have different pumps for each individual float valve in each rez?

I'm trying to incorporate this idea into my growroom plans. Thanks for the help! :mrgreen:
 

cmak40

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just a thought but maybe just up each tray to 3 weeks flower since most sativas take 10-14 weeks...

What a thread

Al, my question is, if you were to grow sativas, how would you go about it? I know SOG favors indica dominant plants, but i was wondering, what method you would employ if you "had" to grow a sativa.

I will be emulating your setup for my indica plants, blueberry, mazar and granddady purple.

But i have a OG Kush/S.A.G.E mother that i would love to grow.

Any info is greatly appreciated.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Thanks to all for all the thanks. :)

Al, my question is, if you were to grow sativas, how would you go about it?
If they were particularly weedy & thin sorts, I might put 2 in each pot. Still zero veg time post clones rooting.

how do you get the moms ready for the large cuttings you take off of them do you prune top ect.
Yep, clones which will be mums get their growing tips snipped when they get put in the vegging area. Do this every week for the first 3 weeks they're vegging. This will force growth to divide so to provide several thick mainstems in a couple more weeks. They're ready to use when they have some stems bigger than 5mm. They'll be fairly tall, 18-24"- and you will cut most of that RIGHT back each time you do cuts.


ready for cuttings.............................. and after a batch.
Looks severe- ain't. All comes back in 14 days.


After doing a pass of cuttings from the mums, snip the growing tips on all branches. This will force them to get thicker for your next pass.

Where do you even find ST#4? I have found some 1, 2, and 3 I think, but not the 4...
Damifino. I got the beans back in 2002 from Gypsy, dunno who has the real deal anymore.

Hey Al,
Do you use one slacker tank for all four regular reservoirs? And if so, do you have different pumps for each individual float valve in each rez?
I use a single tank which is fed by the dehumidifier. This catch tank is mounted up on blocks, above the waterlines of the rez tanks. Water feeds by gravity to the rez tanks via sections of garden hose and tee fittings. No pump needed.

Each rez has a float valve to set the max level. But how, you say, do you keep the rez tanks from overflowing when the trays are being flooded? The water level in the rez tanks drops to about 2/3 when flooding trays- if you don't control when the catch tank refills the res tanks, it would refill them while trays were being flooded- and when the flood cycle finished, 1/3 of your tank volume would be on the floor... bad rice.

Wot to do? Simple! Put a lawn irrigation timer valve on the dehumidifier catch tank. Program it to open for about 10-15 mins at a time when the trays are known to have drained back fully into their respective reservoirs, roughly an hour after each flood cycle. Mine is battery operated and runs for weeks on a pair of AA Duracells.
 

firsttimegrowerr

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Hey Al i forgot to ask what size pots and what nutes do you use for your mother plants?
Im getting ready to buy all my equipment today. Thanks!
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hey, al how deep are your trays?
The overflow tube depth is about 75mm.

Hey Al i forgot to ask what size pots and what nutes do you use for your mother plants?
Im getting ready to buy all my equipment today. Thanks!
Mums run on Canna Vega, 1500-1800ppm @ 5.8, under a 400HPS on 24/0. They live in 175mm pots of 100% rockwool floc (works better for the mums than Fytocell for some reason) in a roughly 1.5' x 3' flood tray (I otta measure that), supplied by a ~50L tank. Could do with a bigger tank. Advanced mums are hugely thirsty, especially when they are very large, just before a pass of cuttings, and the mum tank requires frequent top-up.
 

cmak40

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do you trim back ANY fan leaves at all when pruning a new mom for more growth or just the topping and node pruning?
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
do you trim back ANY fan leaves at all when pruning a new mom for more growth or just the topping and node pruning?
Lower fan leaves tend to get yellowy from lack of light when there's a lot of veg mass above them. I take those off as part of biweekly maintenance after taking a batch of cuttings.

2 in each pot? why?
Pure sativas are really rather wimpy plants. They tend to have a lot of internodal space and just not as much foliage as the characteristic squat, dense pure indica types. Leaf blades are thinner and leaves are generally smaller on pure sativas. These are the characters that we use to define the difference between these types. The lower foliar density would permit more plants per sq ft. Considering my experience with some nearly pure landrace sativas, I think that doubling the planting density could work. Would have to try it to be sure, tho. Would be highly dependent upon the strain.

Keep in mind that most strains available these days are not purebred but rather hybrids of sativas and indicas, mainly favouring indica characters for their high production of budmass and shorter flowering duration.
 

insanestang4life

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Ok al I know you get tons of these question but, are your pots 7 175mm deep from the top to the bottom? And i meant from the top lip to the bottom of your tray how deep was it?
 

kwantiko

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i have one plant, og kush/s.a.g.e and while even though it is fairly indica dominant, the fact that it has sativa genetics shows. it gtows tall and lanky. but it is very resillient, it will stand up to anything.

I would really love to grow this plant in a SOG.

Do you think it can be done?
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Do you think it can be done?
Oh, sure, you can grow any strain in SoG. That's not a problem. When you start mixing strains, the stature difference can be problematic. Indicas are normally used because they produce best in the SoG environment.

On both the tray and the pots!
The pots are 175mm top dia, 130mm bottom dia and 175mm tall. The trays are 820mm x 820mm x 100mm deep. The overflow tube is 75mm tall.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Yep, I'm using that one on other pot boards, thought I'd standardise.

Just so you know, I came by it honestly! I stole it from an anti-drug website and built it into an animated GIF. :lol: At least someone's great stoner art is being used in a positive way. :D
 

rifishman

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Hey AlB...great post BTW. :hump:

Quick question on the clone chamber. Do you have a door or cover on the front of the unit after the clones go into it?

:joint:
 

grandpabear3

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hey al...just a quickie, my grow room is 8'x14' and i have a window unit ac in the room so i was wondering if i still needed other outside intake fans or does the a.c. negate the need for them. exhaust etc...i got it! but this stupid question is stumpin me.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Quick question on the clone chamber. Do you have a door or cover on the front of the unit after the clones go into it?
Yes, it has a door.

hey al...just a quickie, my grow room is 8'x14' and i have a window unit ac in the room so i was wondering if i still needed other outside intake fans or does the a.c. negate the need for them. exhaust etc...i got it! but this stupid question is stumpin me.
Aircon will handle your temp control & humidity (lucky you!). However, constantly recycling a sealed room's airmass will deplete it of CO2. You need to find a way to bring in CO2, either from a ventilation system that will periodically vent the room to bring in atmospheric air with more CO2 or to introduce it with a tank, regulator and metering device.
 

brontobrandon1

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aright al i also have a question, when u cut your clones from your mom and put them in flowering do u put them straight under or off to the side for a day ?? bc i have mine under 3 100w flurcent lights and i think i caused alot of stress to the clone putting it straight under my 1000 w, should i ease them under the 1000w for a couple days or will it not matter? thanks




later:blsmoke:
 
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