Fragile back at it. DIY RDWC with the things.

Axion42

Axion42

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How do you mix your epsom spray? I've been adding it to my res but I'd rather not mess with my ppm ratios so I'm thinking I wanna try the spray method next dose.
 
fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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Axion42 said:
How do you mix your epsom spray? I've been adding it to my res but I'd rather not mess with my ppm ratios so I'm thinking I wanna try the spray method next dose.
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I use my small scale to weight out a gram and mix it up in a gallon of filtered water then just fill a sprayer with that.
Usually only have to give them 1 or 2 at this stage and then once they start getting nutrients they get enough from the MC.
I'll have to give them 1 good one when they go under the LEDs in the flower tent.
 
Axion42

Axion42

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When they go under the LEDs do you still give the same 1 gram mix? And after that how often do you spray once under the LEDs?
 
fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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Axion42 said:
When they go under the LEDs do you still give the same 1 gram mix? And after that how often do you spray once under the LEDs?
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You dont really want to spray anything on them ones they start to flower.
I start 1g/gallon epsom when they go under the leds.
I just start with a barrel of water with calimagic and epsom and let that mix up then start there for nutrients.
 
kawstic

kawstic

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Hey man I've been running through all of these posts here like a madman. Huge shoutout to both yourself & Airwalker for some killer info & saving me a lotta headaches down the road.

So i'm building out a 4 site - 5 8gal bucket system based off of the Fallponic system that's always popping up on here from Gary at PaHydro. Now clearly I will be making a few adjustments after reading through your posts & was just hoping I could bounce a couple questions off of you.

This setup has the waterfall pump drawing the water from the res into the waterfall, is this ideal or are you guys using seperate pumps for circulation & the waterfall? I will be sticking with the 3" pipe & the general entire layout, but i'm looking at changing the waterfall from 3/4" tubing down to either 1/2 or 1/4" pvc with some sort of fitting on the end like you guys to take advantage of the pressure as looking at Gary's video , the waterfall seems pretty weak. Considering that I'm looking to ditch the whole air pump portion of the system ( thanks guys ) .
Would you have any basic tips or suggestions that may help me get this right the first time?

You guys are absolutely killing it, excited to keep following along through all of this.
Cheers :)

Link to Gary's build for reference ( sorry i know you've seen it a bazillion times)
 
fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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kawstic said:
This setup has the waterfall pump drawing the water from the res into the waterfall, is this ideal or are you guys using seperate pumps for circulation & the waterfall? I will be sticking with the 3" pipe & the general entire layout, but i'm looking at changing the waterfall from 3/4" tubing down to either 1/2 or 1/4" pvc with some sort of fitting on the end like you guys to take advantage of the pressure as looking at Gary's video , the waterfall seems pretty weak. Considering that I'm looking to ditch the whole air pump portion of the system ( thanks guys ) .
Would you have any basic tips or suggestions that may help me get this right the first time?
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Thanks. Thats the whole reason I took the effort to put it all up here.
As few pumps possible is ideal.
Most of us with bigger systems use 1 for our chiller and one for the rest.
The waterfalls are the circulation. You can put it on a bulkhead in the res or something to get it out of the water if you want to run it inline.
For that size system a 500-600gph would be plenty if you step down to 1/2" and use some caps like I do
With that sized pump you could use that one pump and run through your chiller (if you have one) before pumping into your system if you wanted.
 
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FuqStiK

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Here's what I currently have going. Finally got my short timer and set the on time for the sprayers to 5 secs and off for a minute, the roots aren't really soaking anymore and they're starting to branch out. These are 12 days from seed

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kawstic

kawstic

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fragileassassin said:
Thanks. Thats the whole reason I took the effort to put it all up here.
As few pumps possible is ideal.
Most of us with bigger systems use 1 for our chiller and one for the rest.
The waterfalls are the circulation. You can put it on a bulkhead in the res or something to get it out of the water if you want to run it inline.
For that size system a 500-600gph would be plenty if you step down to 1/2" and use some caps like I do
With that sized pump you could use that one pump and run through your chiller before pumping into your system if you wanted.
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I'm hoping to be able to avoid the need of a chiller, I have my qb drivers extended outside of the tent try try & get temps down as well as having the tent on concrete in the garage. I'll be running a sterile system so with enough tinkering I think i should be able to keep it in a fairly happy range. If not then i'll have to bite the bullet, & the air pump savings will help mitigate the blow :)

When you say step down to 1/2" do you mean from the pump or just at the site of the waterfall, I'm still undecided on exact materials but i'm thinking tubing from the pump to the buckets with pvc on the inside may be the easiest to get put together.

Thanks so much for the insight, psyched to get this ordered and running!
 
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FuqStiK

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kawstic said:
I'm hoping to be able to avoid the need of a chiller, I have my qb drivers extended outside of the tent try try & get temps down as well as having the tent on concrete in the garage. I'll be running a sterile system so with enough tinkering I think i should be able to keep it in a fairly happy range. If not then i'll have to bite the bullet, & the air pump savings will help mitigate the blow :)

When you say step down to 1/2" do you mean from the pump or just at the site of the waterfall, I'm still undecided on exact materials but i'm thinking tubing from the pump to the buckets with pvc on the inside may be the easiest to get put together.

Thanks so much for the insight, psyched to get this ordered and running!
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You could try something like this if you don't want to spend a bunch of money on a water chiller
 
fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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kawstic said:
I'm hoping to be able to avoid the need of a chiller, I have my qb drivers extended outside of the tent try try & get temps down as well as having the tent on concrete in the garage. I'll be running a sterile system so with enough tinkering I think i should be able to keep it in a fairly happy range. If not then i'll have to bite the bullet, & the air pump savings will help mitigate the blow :)

When you say step down to 1/2" do you mean from the pump or just at the site of the waterfall, I'm still undecided on exact materials but i'm thinking tubing from the pump to the buckets with pvc on the inside may be the easiest to get put together.

Thanks so much for the insight, psyched to get this ordered and running!
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Get this (1000gph one) and run it at 50%.
should keep your water temps as low as theyre going to get.
I run 1" to the back of the setup then split it down to 3/4"
3/4" goes down along my sides and I used reducer fittings off of there to step down to 1/2" at each site.
A small piece of 1/2" pipe with a 90 on it then a cap.
Better yet get the 90 thats slip on one end and thraeded on the other so you can use thraeded caps for easy cleaning.
 
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fragileassassin

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FuqStiK said:
It definitely saves a lot in water usage and nutrients + flushing that big of a system. Shit, I feel like I could run on this little thing for a couple more weeks hah.
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After a while it starts to be a pain to keep the roots untangled and you gotta transplant. mine will stay in there a while still.
 
Axion42

Axion42

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kawstic said:
I'm hoping to be able to avoid the need of a chiller, I have my qb drivers extended outside of the tent try try & get temps down as well as having the tent on concrete in the garage. I'll be running a sterile system so with enough tinkering I think i should be able to keep it in a fairly happy range. If not then i'll have to bite the bullet, & the air pump savings will help mitigate the blow :)

When you say step down to 1/2" do you mean from the pump or just at the site of the waterfall, I'm still undecided on exact materials but i'm thinking tubing from the pump to the buckets with pvc on the inside may be the easiest to get put together.

Thanks so much for the insight, psyched to get this ordered and running!
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I'm also part of the waterfall crew, I didn't use a chiller on my first run with this system but I added pool shock and it worked just fine, no bad looking roots ever. I have since added a chiller but still add pool shock as a preventative measure. Just wanted to add that it can be done without a chiller.
 
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