For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

budtoker0987 said:

In the pic you see i set the pump on its side, that didnt do any different than having it upright on the suction cups. Either way when the drain cycle is about finished and the water level gets to like 2" - 2.5" it sounds like its running mostly air thru it with a SMALL amount of water but it doesnt get it low enough for the bottom float switch to shut it off. So basically its going to run til it burns out. Do i need a different pump? Im thinking about remaking the control bucket and just using 1" drilled hole with 3/4" grommets for the fill/drain holes like i did on the planters, instead of those bulkheads that obviously sit up a little higher than the planter bucket holes... It kind of has to go UPHILL to get into the control bucket a little. i dunno, i need some advice please and thank you!!


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Main problem, water level doesnt get low enuf to shut of the pump..

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Take the cover off that pump and turn it inlet side down, it will stop sucking air

The whole case comes off? didnt know that..


Also, a different question, the water level comes up to 3 gallons inside the INNER planter bucket (5 gallon buckets) when full. Is that enough or should i make that higher?

Going to remake my control bucket anyways so any tips would help here.

oddlifter said:

How many buckets + controller could fit for flowering in a 8'x4'?

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I also have a 8x4 tent. I think the optimal number of plants = 8. That's 4 each under two 1k lights. I like to add an extra empty bucket (that I can see through a window) so I can monitor the water level. I've gone with 12 buckets but things get way too crowded. Too crowded is all bad for multiple reasons.

For new cuttings, im reading on the first few pages of this thread to feed them 2 or 3 times a day.. How strong of ppm at these first couple weeks? I have mine set for 3 times a day, 15 mins. And ppm is about 495.

Can u use jiffy pellets n the cap eg system ?

Razdazz69 said:

Can u use jiffy pellets n the cap eg system ?

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Yes you can.. Other than the jiffy what type of medium you plan on using?

although jiffy will work r/w or roit cubes would be a better choice

Wow made it through half this forum so far,great info and advice ppl..I$ the monster ebb and grow and wanted to expand to the 12 pot system and was wondering If I used 3 1/2 gall bucket inserts with hydroton in the 5 gall pots would I have enough nutrients in my 55gall res to fill all the pots??

I was wondering the same thing! I wanted to run 12 thats too many for my setup. I like to veg for around 45 days!

Skylander said:

I was wondering the same thing! I wanted to run 12 thats too many for my setup. I like to veg for around 45 days!

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Are u useing the monster system?

this will be my first grow on my own with no one to correct me....but yeah I know I am using the monster not sure about huffnpuff...

As I said I'm just using 8 but I have 12 ....just incase i end getting a bigger tent...still would like to know. It would be stupid if they offer expansion buckets for a system and not recommend a additional res to support them

too much nitrogen,But its not going to hurt the plant

budtoker0987 said:

In the pic you see i set the pump on its side, that didnt do any different than having it upright on the suction cups. Either way when the drain cycle is about finished and the water level gets to like 2" - 2.5" it sounds like its running mostly air thru it with a SMALL amount of water but it doesnt get it low enough for the bottom float switch to shut it off. So basically its going to run til it burns out. Do i need a different pump? Im thinking about remaking the control bucket and just using 1" drilled hole with 3/4" grommets for the fill/drain holes like i did on the planters, instead of those bulkheads that obviously sit up a little higher than the planter bucket holes... It kind of has to go UPHILL to get into the control bucket a little. i dunno, i need some advice please and thank you!!


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Main problem, water level doesnt get low enuf to shut of the pump..

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You have some holes for the flood and drain lines to run to around the bottom of the bucket.Take a new pump ..Allot of pumps come with a adapter that will screw into the front of the pump after the pump filter comes off..the hose barb adapter will screw into the front of the pump.Place the pump on the outside of the control bucket and connect it to one of the holes that flood and drain..or you can make a hole of your own for the pump.hook a hose barb up to the hole with grommet then hook a small piece of tubing up to the pump and connect it to the buckets hose barb.The pump will be on the outside of the bucket but will sit at least a half inch lower than if it were inside the bucket .This will allow the bucket to bleed down to the pump and the pump will be able to pull almost all the water out of the control bucket.Good luck and i hope this helped.

adower said:

Does anyone know if there is an option to pick up a larger reservoir that is the same style as the one the ebb and flow system comes with? I want to expand to 48 sites but do not want to buy another system. I was hoping to find a 75 gallon res and use that instead. I can find the flood trays easy but nothing else.

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I have run without problem 48 two gallon sites on the 55 gal res that comes with the system.It will suck up a little over half of the barrels water when it floods.

Sencha said:

Hey guys (warlock and hellraizer). I'm just looking for some quick lazy answers to a couple questions.

I've seen some mention of 5 gallon sites for growing larger plants. In your experiences, are 2-1k HPS lights good enough for 12 sites at two gallons? Does growing larger plants seem more efficient? How do the 5 gallon sites affect your lighting?

Thanks in advance.

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2 1000 lamps will cover 2 sections of 12 plants each in 2 gallon containers Under super cobra hoods in a 5x5 section each with over lap of light between the two hoods.as far as what size difference does it make ?CANOPY MANAGEMENT..and some dependent on your veg space.2 gallon pots i like to veg to around 2 ft with trained multi tops stocked underneath for air movement.If i were using the 5 gallon the veg time would be longer and the plant would be larger before it goes in.Use of light amongst the plants comes from good canopy management.(some of us still like to call it WORK)good luck to you and hope this helped

facestabber said:

Currently running DM Zone as a sterile root zone conditioner, works amazing with chemical nutes but not so well with organics.

According to their website Rock Nutrients are organic which means if I wanna use them the DM Zone has gotta go. This basically leaves me with 2 options that interest me, Rock Supercharge Root Conditioner or EWC tea.

Yes, I'm very stoned right now.

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I like ZONE...But i think id look into hygrozyme or nitrozyme . running organics in a E&G be ready to do allot of cleaning clean everything in the system every week.All the tubes all the buckets all of the control boxs ect.If you have any of your lines go down because they were clogged up you will be sorry.That being said organics can be used if you are not lazy and really increase the taste smell .Make sure you have 3/4 inch lines if you can running organic.Good luck to you i hope this helps.

I know all the answers are in this thread most likely, and I have read 6 pages so far(at 40 posts/page setting), but i am setting up now...


How many times and how long should the flood cycles be for veg and for flower?

Thanx for this great thread!!!!

bassman999 said:

I know all the answers are in this thread most likely, and I have read 6 pages so far(at 40 posts/page setting), but i am setting up now...


How many times and how long should the flood cycles be for veg and for flower?

Thanx for this great thread!!!!

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When i was rocking the ebb i went x2 floods for veg with less than 30 buckets flood 30minutes
flower i went x3 flood same length

hellraizer30 said:

When i was rocking the ebb i went x2 floods for veg with less than 30 buckets flood 30minutes
flower i went x3 flood same length

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Thanx for the reply.
It is set for 3 now, but Ill change it in the morning

max420thc said:

I have run without problem 48 two gallon sites on the 55 gal res that comes with the system.It will suck up a little over half of the barrels water when it floods.

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Hydroton takes up 5/8 of the volume in the bucket, water making up the rest, so a two gallon bucket holds only 3/4 gallon of water.