For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

I have to agree with face on the science of it. Could he be a bit more diplomatic? Sure. Do you seem kinda easy to butt-hurt? Yep

All the beneficial beasties do the job of breaking down organic compounds into base minerals and ions that the plant can use. If you are using a 100% available nutrient then they are kind of pointless.

You can certainly do the organic thing in hydro and depend on a natural microbial balance to keep your medium environment in check ... or you can just feed them readily available sauce and take the 'kill 'em all' approach to bacteria.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm dirt farming these days but ran sterile dro for years and still have my kit.... when running hydro I grow weed, not bacteria.

Oh I never said anything about what he is doing or saying. Just how he is saying it. He sounds like he is top dawg. But we can show other reasons. And then he gets pissed and talking crap not fact.

Use "beneficials" in hydro for hit and miss success or run sterile for 100% success. Some have better luck than others with organics and beneficials. Honestly, I believe that it takes a better grower to be successful using beneficials than to go sterile. Sterile is just easier and works every time, especially for the average grower. Sorry if anyone's butt really does hurt. I think you guys are all awesome, even you Warlock.

Ty. I just want to fully understand everything befor I can put anything down. I have been bashed because my plants look like shit but I'm also playing with things. I'm at a stage in my life I can. And wont say what is best till I finish my hands on tests. So far it's even. And this could take a year or more to test. So I'm looking for insite not insalts. That's all man. We all can help each other just don't say your wight without knowing the otherside. Together we can help fighting we help nobody. Like I said I'm testing but going to keep my mouth shut till I say say different.

Going the Bennie way is definitely harder...much harder. But the results are unbeatable, done right. I know several growers that went the sterile route and their crops came out like crap. it's all about the grower. If you are lazy or don't care about the end product either way won't matter. you will have the crop you deserve. I grow because it is NOT easy but because I want the best and I want to know what goes into my bud.period.

The zone seems to be working, and I'm starting to think that most of the slimy stuff is from using b52

GreenDyl said:

The zone seems to be working, and I'm starting to think that most of the slimy stuff is from using b52

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You're on the right track. Don't complicate things for yourself with micro-organisms inhabiting your rez. The best smoke I've ever had has been chemical/hydro grown.

Post up some pics when those roots start hanging from your pots like spaghetti noodles!

dirk d said:

Going the Bennie way is definitely harder...much harder. But the results are unbeatable, done right. I know several growers that went the sterile route and their crops came out like crap. it's all about the grower. If you are lazy or don't care about the end product either way won't matter. you will have the crop you deserve. I grow because it is NOT easy but because I want the best and I want to know what goes into my bud.period.

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I'd be willing to bet a harvest that in a blind taste/smoke test with properly trimmed and cured buds you can't tell any difference.

The plant does not care where it sources it's nutrients. It just wants them.

doogleef said:

I'd be willing to bet a harvest that in a blind taste/smoke test with properly trimmed and cured buds you can't tell any difference.

The plant does not care where it sources it's nutrients. It just wants them.

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Was thinking the same thing when I read that. To each their own. It would be interesting to see a side by side chemical/terpene profile comparison conducted with a mass spectrometer to settle that debate.

doogleef said:

I'd be willing to bet a harvest that in a blind taste/smoke test with properly trimmed and cured buds you can't tell any difference.

The plant does not care where it sources it's nutrients. It just wants them.

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Already did. Buddy of mine gave me some Mango couple weeks ago and it looked Dank! completely crystallized and fat. Took 2 puffs and tossed it. Organic blows away anything made with Chemicals. Not even close. But to each their own. btw go and get a peach/nectarine from your local supermarket and then go and get a peach/nectarine from an organic store like whole foods or something like that, then compare the two.

Some guys like fat girls, who am I to judge?

Anyone got pics to share? Recent E&G harvests?

I have seen this through this thread a bunch of times but still have not come to a final answer. DO YOU FLOOD AT NIGHT? Any opinions, thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Snow.

Snowboarding420 said:

I have seen this through this thread a bunch of times but still have not come to a final answer. DO YOU FLOOD AT NIGHT? Any opinions, thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Snow.

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You should not flood at night with ebb&grow flood bucket systems, now with ebb&flow tables sometimes you will
have to to protect exsposed roots.

Snowboarding420 said:

I have seen this through this thread a bunch of times but still have not come to a final answer. DO YOU FLOOD AT NIGHT? Any opinions, thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Snow.

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I flood at night using hydroton and never fail. my biggest problem is plants that grow too fast. What's your medium?

I flood at night. Ebb n flo. Hydrocorn.

Degassing the root ball is my main reason.

Having my timer with 4 equal settings let's me just turn the dial if I want it to cycle it.

HomeLessBeans said:

I flood at night. Ebb n flo. Hydrocorn.

Degassing the root ball is my main reason.

Having my timer with 4 equal settings let's me just turn the dial if I want it to cycle it.

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The eqaul settings is smart. You should try 6x a day.

facestabber said:

The eqaul settings is smart. You should try 6x a day.

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thanks..4 works for me

is the siphon valve on the res a must have?

greenghost420 said:

is the siphon valve on the res a must have?

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Make life easyer plus it will save your pump from burning up