flushing-am i doing it right ?

qwizoking

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MAIN FACT: High salt concentrations in media can cause the shrinkage and death of plant cells due to the excess draw of water through cell walls, and eventually lead to the irreversible wilting of plant leaves and stems. Flushing helps to remove excess nutrient salts and safely leach my plants from the grow media.


Ive never encountered this salt build up, even running miracle grow and never having run off...

Well here's my opinion. Besides forums and YouTube videos, the first place I went is to Barnes & Noble to read about growing from experts with nearly 20 years of experience. Many experts flush their crops.

Weed "experts"? Because other crops are not flushed

Not everyone uses organic nutrients, some use chemically enhanced formulas.That chemical flavor can be tasted in the buds of a plant that has not been flushed.

There is no such thing as a chemicaly taste, it doesnt make sense lol. The hot harsh acrid nonsense is crap in the bud that needs to be broken down-chlorophyll starches sugars etc

Despite the fact that I'm using organic nutrients I am still going to flush my plants 2 weeks prior to harvest like many professionals do.

I wont even respond to that.

Flushing at the end of a crop’s growth cycle helps to trigger the last reproductive stage of the plant forcing it to process and get rid of internally stored nutrients.

What is this last stage? Flushing will not lower nutes as the plant will feed off older fans keeping buds full of nutes

But to each, his own.

You can make or purchase a compost tea to mix into your soil for reuse.
GOODLUCK GROWING!!
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VIP Grower

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There's no such thing as a "weed expert". You sound ignorant and arrogant when you put it that way. Point is that there are individuals with more growing experience than you and I have put together.
SOME EXPERTS FLUSH AND SOME DON'T. ITS A GROWING METHOD. (I.E: VERTICAL VS. HORIZONTAL GROWING ETC!)

Just because you've never ran into salt build up doesn't mean no one else hasn't. It is possible.
There's macro and micro nutrients so salt concentration is not something you see with you physical eye.
You may not be a connoisseur when it comes to smoking, so when it comes to taste you probably don't care or notice.
I never said flushing will lower nutrients levels. Flushing forces the plants to use up internally stored nutrients. That's why the fan leaves gradually lose color and die when using the flushing method. You would notice this but flushing isn't a method you use.
 
qwizoking

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I sound arrogant and gnorant when questioning yiur use of the word expert?

Lower nutrient levels-use u o internally stored nutruents..i think we mean the same thing. But that is not what happens, the plant forms that abscission layer in the fans and droos them. It does this using those nutes tp preserve the bud. The olant does all it can to maintain homeostasis and you are not effectingvthe buds when doing this

Its only a growing method amongst uniformed. No real grower flushes. No other crop gets flushed, im talking the real pros. Wine producers, premium tobacco etc. I pull 60lbs a month, thats cool but nothing compared to them..and i am a connoisseur, that mainly grows special landrace sativas..amazing..
Ive done lots of tests and challenged myself to deepen my understanding of the olant and its workings. Flushing is not productive. And ive ran seed to harvest never having run off, and no salt build up
 
chuck estevez

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VIP Grower said:
MAIN FACT: High salt concentrations in media can cause the shrinkage and death of plant cells due to the excess draw of water through cell walls, and eventually lead to the irreversible wilting of plant leaves and stems. Flushing helps to remove excess nutrient salts and safely leach my plants from the grow media.

Well here's my opinion. Besides forums and YouTube videos, the first place I went is to Barnes & Noble to read about growing from experts with nearly 20 years of experience. Many experts flush their crops. Not everyone uses organic nutrients, some use chemically enhanced formulas.That chemical flavor can be tasted in the buds of a plant that has not been flushed.

Despite the fact that I'm using organic nutrients I am still going to flush my plants 2 weeks prior to harvest like many professionals do. Flushing at the end of a crop’s growth cycle helps to trigger the last reproductive stage of the plant forcing it to process and get rid of internally stored nutrients.

But to each, his own.

You can make or purchase a compost tea to mix into your soil for reuse.
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was ANY of these experts NON marijuana experts? do you have a link to ANY real studies?
 
Trippyness

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I dont not claim to be an expert.
But my family have been farmers of Agriculture for generations.
I do understand that in soil there can be salt buildup that causes lockouts.
Sure flushing every now and again to remove salt buildup is fine,
but not giving your plants nutrients for the last week or 2 which is when they need the nutrients the most to convert to carbs and simple sugars as well as pack on final weight.

It is impossible to taste nutrients in Cannabis unless folier fed and if folier fed wash your buds.

All flushing does is removes salts but does not affect taste of buds at all.

Dont deprive your plants of vauluable nutrients.

T%his is a very newbie thing to do and I have no idea how any of you old timers can do this and believe it works. You need to study some botany.

No offence to anyone but dont flush. It is useless and hurts the plant rather than does good.
If your in soil and you have a feed water feed sched than you should not get salt buildup if done properly.
 
Gary Goodson

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chuck estevez said:
could be a great person to troll, BUT,
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lol yea I'm not gonna troll the guy either. Ijs he shouldn't be arguing like he KNOWS what he's talking about. When he hasn't even finished a grow. I read a little bit of his thread and he doesn't like for anyone to disagree with him.


RED MYLAR! Lmao
 
chuck estevez

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Gary Goodson said:
lol yea I'm not gonna troll the guy either. Ijs he shouldn't be arguing like he KNOWS what he's talking about. When he hasn't even finished a grow. I read a little bit of his thread and he doesn't like for anyone to disagree with him.


RED MYLAR! Lmao
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Exactly, I was reading along going, This guy needs a good trolling, Maybe I will stir the pot, HEHEHE!!:blsmoke:
 
Trippyness

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My OWN first hydro grow.

I have been growing outdoors and with grow friends for years.
I have never had my own indoor grow but have been apart of many.
That is irrelevant.
Do some Botany research. Flushing is useless.
But form what i know all the flushing people will never listen. SO keep flushing and depriving plants of nutrients.

Only thing flushing will help is if you smoke the roots..

Hope that was informative. Have fun flushing....
 
Trippyness

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Do you know some of the shit that comes out of Cervantes' mouth?
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I dont not claim to be growing for 20 years.
Also just because someone joined for forum does not mean its theyre first grow.
Second this is not about me directly.
This is about how depriving the plants of nutrients somehow makes your bud taste better...
Its simply Botany that makes this untrue.
Im done arguing.
Go ahead and deprive your plants of nutrients.
If your buds taste bad is only because of improper grow conditions and curing.

Nutrients help the plants grow and without the nutrients well its quite obvious what happens.
Quit spreading rumors.
There are tons of threads on other forums and around the web with comparisons on flushing vs none.

Dont remove the nutrients. You cannot taste them that is just absurd.

Ever had a tomato that tasted like nutrients?
No...

No point in this argument as I know flushers will always be flushers and the rest of us will be educated.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Trippyness said:
I dont not claim to be growing for 20 years.
Also just because someone joined for forum does not mean its theyre first grow.
Second this is not about me directly.
This is about how depriving the plants of nutrients somehow makes your bud taste better...
Its simply Botany that makes this untrue.
Im done arguing.
Go ahead and deprive your plants of nutrients.
If your buds taste bad is only because of improper grow conditions and curing.

Nutrients help the plants grow and without the nutrients well its quite obvious what happens.
Quit spreading rumors.
There are tons of threads on other forums and around the web with comparisons on flushing vs none.

Dont remove the nutrients. You cannot taste them that is just absurd.

Ever had a tomato that tasted like nutrients?
No...

No point in this argument as I know flushers will always be flushers and the rest of us will be educated.
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Dude, you've been arguing with yourself pretty much,lol
 
Gary Goodson

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Trippyness said:
I dont not claim to be growing for 20 years.
Also just because someone joined for forum does not mean its theyre first grow.
Second this is not about me directly.
This is about how depriving the plants of nutrients somehow makes your bud taste better...
Its simply Botany that makes this untrue.
Im done arguing.
Go ahead and deprive your plants of nutrients.
If your buds taste bad is only because of improper grow conditions and curing.

Nutrients help the plants grow and without the nutrients well its quite obvious what happens.
Quit spreading rumors.
There are tons of threads on other forums and around the web with comparisons on flushing vs none.

Dont remove the nutrients. You cannot taste them that is just absurd.

Ever had a tomato that tasted like nutrients?
No...

No point in this argument as I know flushers will always be flushers and the rest of us will be educated.
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Lol Chuck is right bro, nobody's arguing with you. I tagged you earlier because your were correct and we all are on the same page, except for that VIP dude. He is the one on his first grow, but has the nerve to tell us we don't know what's up.
 
taGyo

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Trippyness said:
I dont not claim to be growing for 20 years.
Also just because someone joined for forum does not mean its theyre first grow.
Second this is not about me directly.
This is about how depriving the plants of nutrients somehow makes your bud taste better...
Its simply Botany that makes this untrue.
Im done arguing.
Go ahead and deprive your plants of nutrients.
If your buds taste bad is only because of improper grow conditions and curing.

Nutrients help the plants grow and without the nutrients well its quite obvious what happens.
Quit spreading rumors.
There are tons of threads on other forums and around the web with comparisons on flushing vs none.

Dont remove the nutrients. You cannot taste them that is just absurd.

Ever had a tomato that tasted like nutrients?
No...

No point in this argument as I know flushers will always be flushers and the rest of us will be educated.
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I don't flush lol. Did you read what I wrote or are you just mad?
 
Trippyness

Trippyness

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My apologies mates.
Im glad you dont flush.

Im just want to educate people on why you should not flush.

just a bit on a rage rawr on flushing.

Seems so many newbies and even old members flush and I want to change they're minds.


Cervantes says so much shit that just blows my mind on how stupid it is and how he does not understand C3 plants and Botany.

This is why this year I will be making a Documentary Collaboration with many well known growers across several forums.

Will be a step by step grow guide with legit information up to date.

Flushing will be in there and I will be speaking with a Botany and Agriculture expert on the fact.

All my work will be backed up by evidence so everything can be cleared up and not just flsuhing.

To any newbs seeing this. please quit flushing.
 
Trousers

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VIP Grower said:
Despite the fact that I'm using organic nutrients I am still going to flush my plants 2 weeks prior to harvest like many professionals do. Flushing at the end of a crop’s growth cycle helps to trigger the last reproductive stage of the plant forcing it to process and get rid of internally stored nutrients.
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By flushing do you mean running gallons of water through your pots?
Buds are not nutrient sinks, they do not store nutrients. You are not helping your plants, you are hurting them.

The leaves change color due to nutrient deficiency.
 
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