Flowering/Harvesting Q. Light can't penetrate.

say the plants have outgrown the light penetration of the HPS bulb. Could i theoretically snip off budded/ready branches (harvest em) and then proceed to lower the light so that the lower branches can start flowering? Or will it all just happen at the same time?
 
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Illegal Smile

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That would be wasteful. If you need light on the side try adding some cfls.
 
i did just that but what happened was two of the plants grew up towards the HPS light and one just leaned in towards the cfls, and is being dwarfed by the other plants. OH well, it's all a learning process
 

figtree

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harvest the done nugs the put it back in for secondary harvest. not wasteful, very common to do.
 

FLABOY1

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say the plants have outgrown the light penetration of the HPS bulb. Could i theoretically snip off budded/ready branches (harvest em) and then proceed to lower the light so that the lower branches can start flowering? Or will it all just happen at the same time?
Train your plants to be lower-growing plants. In doing so you will end up with more main colas, and if done right, more bud. Research Topping, LST, SuperCropping, FIM, etc. All these techniques will give you an idea of why it is more efficient. What wattage is your HPS?
 

Geozander

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Wow thanks a lot guys.

250 watts

I've tried fimming and lsting granted both a little too late. First grow has been a huge learning experience.
and every grow after it will be a learning experience too! You will always be picking up new ideas, techniques. Best of luck with growing mate.
 
Train your plants to be lower-growing plants. In doing so you will end up with more main colas, and if done right, more bud. Research Topping, LST, SuperCropping, FIM, etc. All these techniques will give you an idea of why it is more efficient. What wattage is your HPS?
How can i train them to be lower growing? it looks like they grow at will
 

Geozander

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How can i train them to be lower growing? it looks like they grow at will
you gently tie the branches down, and keep doing so as the plant grows, so effectively training the plant to grow horizontally rather than vertically. In turn this opens up more bud sites and means your plant tops will be getting more or less equal light.
 
you gently tie the branches down, and keep doing so as the plant grows, so effectively training the plant to grow horizontally rather than vertically. In turn this opens up more bud sites and means your plant tops will be getting more or less equal light.
and you would recommend rubber bands? rope? wire ties? I can't imagine where i would tie down a rope to
 

tat2ue

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say the plants have outgrown the light penetration of the HPS bulb. Could i theoretically snip off budded/ready branches (harvest em) and then proceed to lower the light so that the lower branches can start flowering? Or will it all just happen at the same time?
try pruning your fan leaves a couple weeks after they start to flower. Works for me, may work for you to.

I grow on two 3x8 DIY tables that take 80 plants each and with that many plants light penatration was a challenge... but trial and error prevailed. Learning when to prune the plants by trial and error has worked for me.

Heres some pics of my perpetual grow that I pruned as needed. The smallest plants were put in last night(not pruned yet). next biggest ones were put in on 8/26. Next ones were put in on 8/06 and last batch of standing lolly popped buds next to the 2 liter were put in 2 weeks before thatand will be ready to come out in a week or so.
 

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Geozander

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and you would recommend rubber bands? rope? wire ties? I can't imagine where i would tie down a rope to
in the past i used solid core copper wire. Put a loop in one end put the loop round the branch you want to tie down then put other end into soil. You can drill small holes round the lip of your pot and attach branches with garden twine.
 

tat2ue

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Do not prune your fan leaves! It stresses the plant and the plant will not thank you for it.
Another easy way to LST train your plants is to get some fishing weights like egg sinkers or carolina rig weights at Walmart (1/2 oz and 1 oz) Pull your plant over to the side and hang them on the main stem till you find the point where the plant stays sideways. After a few days just move the weight down as the plant starts to grow upward on the end or just add another weight.

As for pruning plants = stress. My stressed out plants net me 5 to 6 lbs of wet trimmed bud from a 3x4 section of a 3x8 table every 2 to 3 weeks. So I guess I will continue to stress them out.
 

Geozander

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Continue stressing away mate. If thats what you get from them thats what you get. It is a well known and scientifically proven fact that pruning a plant will cause it stress. You cut your finger off you gonna be stressed, then your body will divert all its energy to stopping it getting infected stopping it bleeding and trying to heal the hole. Well a plant is no different. You got an impressive set up mate, not denying that, same as there is no denying that pruning causes stress.
 

tat2ue

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Geo...What works for me may not work for everyone else. So lets put the pruning & stress issue to rest and see if we can help the brother who started the thread.

LST (lo STRESS training) would probably work best in his situation. Does not really matter if he ties down his plant or bends it over with a counter weight. But doing this will stop the upward growth and force up new colas once the growth hormone is redistributed to the new tops shooting upwards from what was once the side of the stalk. Just my opinion. Good luck on your grow my friend.

Continue stressing away mate. If thats what you get from them thats what you get. It is a well known and scientifically proven fact that pruning a plant will cause it stress. You cut your finger off you gonna be stressed, then your body will divert all its energy to stopping it getting infected stopping it bleeding and trying to heal the hole. Well a plant is no different. You got an impressive set up mate, not denying that, same as there is no denying that pruning causes stress.
 

Geozander

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Aint arguing mate just opinions. And i meant it when i said your set up was impressive. And the brother who originally posted is a sister! Anyway pruning aside, feck lost where i was going there!
 
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