Florida is set to arm teachers

Fogdog said:

Sure, bugsy.

We all know that guns in the home make people less safe. 98,000 public schools and about 2.5-3 million teachers.

Nationwide in 2016, the death rate from an unintentional shooting with a gun was 0.1 per 100,000 people and the rate of non-fatal unintentional shootings is about 4 per 100,000
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr65/nvsr65_04.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4700838/

If 20% of all teacher were armed, that would be 600,000 teachers. Roughly somewhere around 0.6 kids dead and 25 kids hurt per year. Personally, I don't think armed teachers are going to account for any saved lives. So, how many lives saved vs lives still lost due to guns in mass shootings in schools makes it worth taking the risk of accidents? Realitically even if teachers could stop one or two mass shootings each year, our country will still have much worse numbers of gun homicides and deaths from mass shootings compared to Canada and Australia.

How about if we institute gun laws that are known to reduce all gun homicides and accidents to a fraction of what we have now? That, without adding risk of injury from teachers who are supposed to be good at teaching and not subduing armed assailants.

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Police arrested a Georgia teacher for firing a gun at school, just days after President Donald Trump ignited a national debate over whether some teachers should carry weapons to protect their students.

No one was injured at Dalton High School except for a student who injured an ankle while running, police spokesman Bruce Frazier told CNN. Police identified the shooter as social studies teacher Randal Davidson, 53, who surrendered at the scene.

One Dalton student tweeted to the National Rifle Association: “my favorite teacher at Dalton high school just blockaded his door and proceeded to shoot. We had to run out. The back of the school in the rain. Students were being trampled and screaming. I dare you to tell me arming teachers will make us safe.”

Teacher Barricades Himself in Class, Fires Gun; No One Hurt

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2018-02-28/police-in-georgia-respond-to-shots-fired-at-high-school

Jimdamick said:

Police arrested a Georgia teacher for firing a gun at school, just days after President Donald Trump ignited a national debate over whether some teachers should carry weapons to protect their students.

No one was injured at Dalton High School except for a student who injured an ankle while running, police spokesman Bruce Frazier told CNN. Police identified the shooter as social studies teacher Randal Davidson, 53, who surrendered at the scene.

One Dalton student tweeted to the National Rifle Association: “my favorite teacher at Dalton high school just blockaded his door and proceeded to shoot. We had to run out. The back of the school in the rain. Students were being trampled and screaming. I dare you to tell me arming teachers will make us safe.”

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Sounds like the school did a crack job during the hiring process

chiqifella said:

I would be armed in the classroom today if I was a teacher

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that's because you're a pussy

LEDandCoffee said:

Sounds like the school did a crack job during the hiring process

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atta girl

blame anything but the guns.

thoughts and prayers

UncleBuck said:

atta girl

blame anything but the guns.

thoughts and prayers

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atta girl, blame an object and not the lunatic holding it

cupcakes and rainbows

Personally, I'm sick of cars and their drunk driving. Fucking cars. NO MORE CARS! You don't need it!

LEDandCoffee said:

Personally, I'm sick of cars and their drunk driving. Fucking cars. NO MORE CARS! You don't need it!

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in order to drive a car, you have to complete a written test, a driving test with an instructor, buy insurance and get a background check.

anyhoo, how many more days do you think it'll be before your latest sock account gets banned?

how many more days until the next gun massacre?

We should enact laws similar to Switzerland, any man who wants to own a semi auto rifle has to join a local militia and go through training and testing to do so. Strict
Background checks, anything kept at home needs to be in a safe, strict mental health tests also, if you can't have a healthy debate or be told you're wrong you can't own a gun period.

We could hold buybacks to fund rental ranges for competition shooters. Maybe even have safes to hold personal firearms there as well.

I don't believe in just banning ar type rifles, I'd like my fair shot at keeping mine.....somewhere at least!

I think keeping unstable people from owning weapons and limiting ammunition sales and clip sizes would help a lot.

Arming teachers is a horrible idea imo, maybe a locked up gun in the classroom or nearby and a choice to learn to use it? Alarm could go off when the second number combination is entered or maybe something like that. Very limited access to combinations.

It would be nice for there to be a way for teachers to fight back if they wanted, but don't fucking arm them in class that's counter productive for sure.

If security is there it should be an effort to hire someone who shows promise they will act in that type of situation, maybe even someone with a kid in school or a relative of possible. Don't just hire Joe Schmoe and give him a gun that's dumb.

UncleBuck said:

in order to drive a car, you have to complete a written test, a driving test with an instructor, buy insurance and get a background check.

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And yet, tens of thousands of people still die in car accidents every year.

It will be fool-proof with guns as well!

LEDandCoffee said:

And yet, tens of thousands of people still die in car accidents every year.

It will be fool-proof with guns as well!

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if we made it easier to drive a car less people would die though. see how fucking stupid your blathering NRA spam sounds?

anyhoo, how many more days do you think it'll be before your latest sock account gets banned?

how many more days until the next gun massacre?

UncleBuck said:

if we made it easier to drive a car less people would die though. see how fucking stupid your blathering NRA spam sounds?

anyhoo, how many more days do you think it'll be before your latest sock account gets banned?

how many more days until the next gun massacre?

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Never said that though, you snowflakes are good at taking everything and twisting it. Must be mentally exhausting to get so upset about everything

The NRA is terrible. Not "my" organization at all. I prefer the GOA.

I already told you, I don't wear socks very often.

schuylaar said:

you're all missing how this happened..the school was locked, had an armed RSO..how the shooter did it was to pull the OUTSIDE fire alarm and went to the first set of buildings on the left (freshman classes). started shooting then turned and walked away with the rest of the kids west to the path that leads to walmart where he went to subway inside..then walked south to mcd hung out there..thought it was safe and was walking away when a creek cop was patroling the area for springs cops who were busy at the school. taken alive to stand trial is cop creed in this area.

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In this particular case it does not seem that having teachers with concealed carry would have deterred the killer from doing what he did. Might it have decreased the number killed? No way to know, possible more may have been injured, but I doubt it. Not selling semi-autos to kids under 21 may have helped a lot as would enforcing the gun laws already on the books. We have plenty of room to improve school safety no matter how you look at it.

LEDandCoffee said:

Never said that though, you snowflakes are good at taking everything and twisting it. Must be mentally exhausting to get so upset about everything

The NRA is terrible. Not "my" organization at all. I prefer the GOA.

I already told you, I don't wear socks very often.

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yep, the spoiled princess who cries at the mere mention of gun control doesn;t think it should be easier to buy a gun.

we believe that.

we also all believe this is your first account ever and you just went directly to politics with massive butthurt.

UncleBuck said:

yep, the spoiled princess who cries at the mere mention of gun control doesn;t think it should be easier to buy a gun.

we believe that.

we also all believe this is your first account ever and you just went directly to politics with massive butthurt.

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Already said I'm not opposed to gun control. Like 89127329817 times. But, again, anger clouds judgement I get it friend.

I'm not butthurt at all. That's why I'm not the one that just throws insults because I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I don't really care if you believe this is my first account. We can't all sit on a forum all day every day and post 127k times. Welfare sounds nice.

LEDandCoffee said:

Already said I'm not opposed to gun control. Like 89127329817 times. But, again, anger clouds judgement I get it friend.

I'm not butthurt at all. That's why I'm not the one that just throws insults because I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I don't really care if you believe this is my first account. We can't all sit on a forum all day every day and post 127k times. Welfare sounds nice.

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you've been crying your little princess eyes out about gun control since you joined (again) and insulting people whenever you haven't been crying about insults.

why do you feel the need to be a compulsive liar?

UncleBuck said:

you've been crying your little princess eyes out about gun control since you joined (again) and insulting people whenever you haven't been crying about insults.

why do you feel the need to be a compulsive liar?

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That part means all of your e-crying will get you nowhere

Yea I think improving school safety is top priority, why do we spend so much on offensive military and none on protecting our young children right here at home.

That being said I don't think teachers should have guns.... If one of them wants to have emergency access and shows that they are responsible gun owners we could possibly offer some sort of program in schools that's heavily secured......maybe that is.

We have done well with no guns in schools before, I think our technology isn't being implemented enough, Fire alarms with cameras pointed at them should be required, cameras at enterances and PA and warnings systems throughout the school.

This shit can be stopped, they are just using all this media attention and power for money and fame. We have real world solutions we just can't afford them because our politicians are ripping us off.

Has anyone ever seen the movie class of 1999? It reminds me of this shit lol, not good.

If you haven't you should watch it when you get a chance. It's about armed robot teachers in the future (1999) that go crazy and start killing all the drug addicts and asshole kids in school it's nuts.