First time with color change, tips or info?

i8urbabi

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This is the first time ive gotten anything like this for color, specially for SLH. My temps do hit 50-60 at night, but what else do you think caused this? Is it more bad than good or no? Think it will have an effect on her health? she is at 50 days (from pistils) today. 12.12 from seed. lots of blue pink n purps. My other SLH just has hints of blue and purp.

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Thanks!
 

i8urbabi

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lol thanks. it really blew me away considering this is my first real grow. old grows were done with CFL. I now use 400w HPS. I dont think anything i did really caused it. I use GH Flora Micro hardwater and a lil of their floragro too. Not sure what all could bring this about, but id like to do it again
 

gobbly

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I haven't grown that strain so it could be totally natural, but my initial reaction would be potassium lockout due to temps...
 

i8urbabi

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so that what would be happening prolly with the lockout. Ive grown SLH several times and really enjoy the plant all around, and this is the first time ive seen this come out of it lol. GG13 had some purps in his awhile back and that made me want to try for purps. so i believe they all can prolly do it to some extent if its just lockout. thanks for the help!
 

Stinkmeaner

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that must be the most beautiful plant ive seen!
you need to GIVE it to me for um...science! yeah thats it, science! give it to me and you will be able to physically flyy-y-y-y
 

Rascality Afoot

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They're great! It's not lockout probably. This late in the game they start to cannibalize their stored up nutes and sugars. Makes em' colourful. Colourful and... so... fukkin...hoooottt...
 

i8urbabi

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well if it were to be lockout what would i be lesser of? Would say resin production be slower or slow calyx formation? i dont notice too much besides the coloring because its so intense, so if i had another problem i wouldnt know lol.
 

TaoWolf

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The phytochrome, the light-sensing mechanisms in leaves, rec-
ognizes shorter day lengths. The shorter days and lower
temperatures arrest chlorophyll production. Chlorophyll
breaks down faster than it is replaced, allowing the yellow
and orange pigments to be unmasked.

The molecules reflecting red wavelengths, anthocya-
nins, are water-soluble pigments that occur in the cell sap
creating the red, pink, and purple hues. During these days when
photosynthesis and chlorophyll production are decreasing,
an abundance of sugars accumulates in the leaf. The cool
nights promote a separation layer of cells in the petiole,
where the leaf attaches to the twig, that prevents sugar from
flowing out of the leaf, and also arrests the flow of nutrients
into the leaf. The formation of anthocyanin requires bright
light, a diminishing water supply and the accumulation of
sugars trapped in the leaf.

Temperature,light and water supply are the primary factors that influence
the synthesis of carbohydrates (sugars). Cool, but not freezing,
temperatures favor anthocyanin production. Bright light favors red colors, so red
color often develops on exposed leaves. Water supply also
affects anthocyanin production, with mild drought favoring
bright reds. Rainy days occurring near peak coloration will
decrease color intensity. Late summer droughts can delay
the onset of fall color by a few weeks.

Individual trees of the same species growing together
often show differences in leaf color because of variations in
the amount of sugars in the leaves and genetic predisposi-
tion. Some reach their peak color earlier than others. Varia-
tions among species in the rate of color change reflect differ-
ences in chlorophyll breakdown, production of anthocya-
nin and exposure of carotene and xanthophyll.

[Parphrased from HERE]


Beautiful plants by the way!
 

i8urbabi

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dude tao you tickled my brain lol thanks man got it down to the science for me. i wish theyd all be this colorful lol

so in nutshell, this late in flowering i should not water as much and let the plant have as much sugar as it can?
 

DankShasta

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I just started some Greenhouse SLH right before xmas!! This thread made me happy. They're seedlings now doing their thing in an aero-bucket until i can start to get some material for propagation.
 

i8urbabi

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I just started some Greenhouse SLH right before xmas!! This thread made me happy. They're seedlings now doing their thing in an aero-bucket until i can start to get some material for propagation.
I havent grown SLH areo yet, but i have done it a couple times DWC and its totally different than soil as ive learned. Not bad either way of course, just the plant responds differently. pretty strong plant, it can take abuse. ive grown it in super heat 95+ temps. and grown them in 50-60f and it still delivers awesome results. great strain to grow, and itll make your grow room smell sweet. not like hash or skunk. like lemons lol.
 

smok3y1

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They look fucking amazing man. Ive been thinking about growing SLH have you experienced any problems also howd you think it would do for someone that is growing first time.
 

TaoWolf

Active Member
dude tao you tickled my brain lol thanks man got it down to the science for me. i wish theyd all be this colorful lol

so in nutshell, this late in flowering i should not water as much and let the plant have as much sugar as it can?
dude tao you tickled my brain lol thanks man got it down to the science for me. i wish theyd all be this colorful lol

so in nutshell, this late in flowering i should not water as much and let the plant have as much sugar as it can?
This is all pure opinion because I haven't seen this information directly related to fruiting/flowering/bud formation with cannabis plants. But I definitely think it wise to at least attempt to follow the seasonal changes of nature as much as is practical. Lots of changes and interconnected processes going on in fall and they are a big deal for flower/fruit/bud production. Why not mildly cut back on waterings if that is what most plants are counting on happening and are designed to handle (same deal with mildly lower temperatures and lighting)? I even know someone that swears by lowering the water level in their DWC setup throughout flowering to mimic increasing drought conditions in hydroponics. lol It's worth a try and experimenting with as far as how much it will impact just not coloration but flower/bud production.

From everything I've read and know about carbohydrates and plants, although some can be directly uptaken by the plant, the real benefit to things like molasses is they feed the rhizosphere which in turn feeds the plant or assists the plant in ion exchange or things like nitrogen fixation. Adding something like molasses only during late flowering might have some wasted potential to it if it is indeed noticeably beneficial at all... why not use it in small amounts throughout growth and not just when a healthy plant is naturally going to have an over abundance of carbohydrates stored in it's tissue w/ little capability to move those carbohydrates around? In any case, in my mind it would make better sense to start loading carbohydrates prior to the 'Fall'/flowering processes both to ensure a healthy rhizosphere is maintained throughout and to ensure a plant has as much capability to produce and store carbohydrates prior to the start of 'Fall' leaf senescence. It's a controversial subject though and there are many examples of amazing bud production even without carbohydrates being added into a grow at all. It's another thing worth experimenting around with.

But yes, as far as striking coloration goes: mildly lower temperatures, mild drought conditions, and light intensity (and likely spectrum) would all be things one could manipulate indoors to produce more colors in the leaves. Less sure about the direct effect of adding carbohydrates late in flowering as most of that would be consumed by bacteria/fungi and the plant is probably less likely to uptake things it already has stored in excesses... probably beneficial overall but I have doubts it would impact color much directly.
 
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