First Time DMT

ANC

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nj, you are putting too much thought into it, just do it....
It will blow your mind what your brain can come up with, well thats the alternative if we are not shot into higher dimensions.

I love the way it can make things in your subconcious clear as daylight by illustration.

First time is rough, even if its a good tranquil awesome trip... how the fuck does one continue living in the normal consensual world, and what about all the stuff you saw on the other side (provided you make it through the veil)(a large dose is almost a guarantee).

If I could no longer access it, I would think my link to the creator just got destroyed, and my world would be a worse place for it.
That said, I seldomly do it more than once a month (maybe I'll do a session of a few hits on that day, but thats it.
There is no potential for abuse or addiction.

the main problem with freeze percipping is when people use too much solvent and or do not evaporate enough naphta to spersaturate the solvent.
 

nj12nets

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I freeze precip in my parents fridge/freeze...I got a small fridge w/ mini freeze but i don't think its cold enough.


ANC... I'm not worried I've gotten some good pulls and gotten some crystals but the problem I'm stuck with is that the naptha won't separate any more... I'd say I should have 1 1-5 inches of naptha & there's only 1/4 inch after a day... it's been like that over a day now...the first pull went pretty well with alot of crystals just hard to retrieve but I got some from the 2nd 50g batch just running into this naptha probelm...it ended up having me finish the quart and I have to buy more tommorrow...any info on this un separating naptha?
 

nj12nets

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pic of giant layers....after closer examination in the light I found I have 3 layers...the bottom black layer that is about 75% as high as the original water...a middle brownish/clearer layer that I figure is an emulsion up to almost the top...top layer is very little maybe 1/4" tops of clear naptha

I'm not sure what caused this...just to remember 1:1:15 ratio for lye:mhrb: water I put salt in the beginning and have let sit now for a few days so I want to recieve my dmt if theres any in t here and I have about 1/4 can of naptha in there I'm sure...this didn't cause a problem in my first batch or earlier in this extraction...any idea...pic of bottle
 

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ANC

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Yeah, ok if you made your bark soup too thick, that will happen... less is more...
Try adding a tablespoon or two of salt to your bottle...
Also stop shakeing it so madly, rather shake or roll the bottle for longer.

P.S. that plastic is bad news.. actualy most soft plastics are...

also don;t know how you would make pulls with that large surface area...

Use a turkey baster and pull as much of the top stuff into a more suitble container which will allow it to form more of a colomb.
 

nj12nets

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it was difficult when only using 20 mls of naptha but with 50 it was good in the first batch and in the 2nd batch up until after the 2nd pull it just started doing this shit...I put salt in originally but I'll add some more... I started rolling it but almost ever tek and forum I read said to use a 1:1:15ml ratio for the mixture and I did get some shit originally so it worked well up until right now at least...the syring was working good but it gets hard to pull the plunger at times causing a safety hazard...hitting the 99c store today to pick up some pyrex or glass ware...hopefully it supplies my needs and I'll start the next batch if this one doesnt separate
 

ANC

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put it down to experience...
People tend to just repeat what they heard elsewhere.
I can out of personal experience tell you that thick mixes seperates much slower than thin ones.... water is good for our pulls.
An optimal mix will seperate in no more than 2 or 3 minutes... if that long.

Also the layer you see is inevitable i nthe end, but should not be so thick on only the second set...
Where did you order your bark from?
 

nj12nets

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from a dealer on ebay but I did 5 or 6 pulls using the same bark on the 1st batch...what ratio do you recommend for lye:mhrb:water? it did separate last time w/in 5 minute sand same on the first 2 pulls from this batch but I ran out of glass containers to feeze precip in os I let it sit over the weekend and since I've been letting it sit this layer just stays there.
 

nj12nets

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I also added water today to see if it would help generate a separation ...no luck yet but I still have to do a heat bath after I go out to run some errands
 

ANC

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lol I once added more water to a bottle that allready had solvent in... man did that cause a lye lock layer.
I suggest you try and work with smaller volumes, its easier to get maximum yeilds.

And stay away from the ebay guys... they sell lots of similar stuff to the proper mimosa under the same name.
Yields are very variable though.

On a pint bottle I fill it with water leaving a little space for the bark, and some for the solvent... its ok to have it overfull, you can just pour out a little. Its much better than trying to fill a too empty bottle afterwards, to get a thin colomb of solvent in the neck. Add to this no more than 30g of bark and add 40g of lye. Let it stand for 4 days before starting your pulls :P You can make up multiple bottles at the same time and through the pulls together.

Just go buy some juice in glass bottles with thin necks.... pyrex is not needed for our purposes.

A beer bottle can also be used, make a lid by useing a piece of breadbag, you know the proper breadbags from that thin hazy plastics, put it over the opening and clamp it on with a rubber band.
Don't stress about the pressure.. The mix actualy sucks a vacuum as oposed to inflating.
 

nj12nets

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this seems to be good mimosa and I've heard recommendations from some one on here and from their feedback I judge it by...moneys too tight right now to be too picky but I did pick up some freeze precip worthy pyrex containers with sealable lid:) no more worries for me on that end

gonna try the heat bath now and see how that works at separating any layers
 

nj12nets

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I like the multiple bottle idea and do 2 40g extractions all at once...I don't have many glas s bottles in the house gimme an example of what drink/product I should buy that will provide a good glass seal-able container
 

nj12nets

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the reason I want the naptha out of this batch is cause its been sitting so long soaking I feel like it should be saturated with dmt
 
i've done the dmt, it was a white powder, way crazier then any acid or anything in this world, i think it was the bark stuff too, anywho, it was fucking BA
 

ANC

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NJ, I think your best bet is to suck that whole top layer off with a turkey baster or something, into a long tot glass or something, then add more naphta to the glass, so you at least get a big layer to pull (you will still loose some). then you will need to evaporate the naphta down quite a bit before FP, as it is far too volumous for super saturation.

This also makes the rest of the stuff in the bottle more accesible again.

Unfortunatley I'm seperated from you by a whole ocean, so we don;t realy have the same products in the shops.
Any pint bottle with a thin neck should work awesome. As i said even a pint beer bottle will do fine, make your own cap with some plastic and a rubber band, I do it all the time.
 

nj12nets

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!
no aliens but whoa ...at one point i was in this image of everything (not me per say but the whole visual realm I guess) as compartmentalized or as mosaic of Trillions of pieces ...heard about floridasucks gf puking so I was slightly worried about that and just kept making sure I was breathing and when it was crazy undescribable in stead of worrying or getting anxious I just kept telling myself this was amazing over and over just to make sure everything was cool cause it was t he first time.... It seemed good w/ the tv & lights off...can't wait til next time probably friday...took some naptha and put in freezer from 1st pull of 3rd batch.

I feel so much better having seal-able pyrex jars and should be able to retrieve any xtals easily
 

floridasucks

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!
no aliens but whoa ...at one point i was in this image of everything (not me per say but the whole visual realm I guess) as compartmentalized or as mosaic of Trillions of pieces ...heard about floridasucks gf puking so I was slightly worried about that and just kept making sure I was breathing and when it was crazy undescribable in stead of worrying or getting anxious I just kept telling myself this was amazing over and over just to make sure everything was cool cause it was t he first time.... It seemed good w/ the tv & lights off...can't wait til next time probably friday...took some naptha and put in freezer from 1st pull of 3rd batch.

I feel so much better having seal-able pyrex jars and should be able to retrieve any xtals easily
haha... yo i just had the best trip of my life! simply amazing!

huge hit from the bong.. i was goneee.

my whole body looked like some crazy melting alien shit. i didnt know where the fuck or what the fuck i was but i was great. i had no anxiety at all.

whole new respect for dmt and life. im ready to visit the elves now.
 

ANC

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Next time lie in the dark for about 5 minutes before smokeing, it makes your body channel melatonin diffirently than in the wakeing state... painting a big fat target on your pinial gland for the DMT.
But remember to keep dem eyes closed till its all over after smokeing... its fucking annoying when the elves climb through the wall into your room with your eyes open.

Try playing some calm tunes from shpongle just loud enough to be audiable, not wisper soft though... those tunes send me to the coolest places...without aliens.

Lol I bet you laugh at acid now.
 

floridasucks

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Next time lie in the dark for about 5 minutes before smokeing, it makes your body channel melatonin diffirently than in the wakeing state... painting a big fat target on your pinial gland for the DMT.
But remember to keep dem eyes closed till its all over after smokeing... its fucking annoying when the elves climb through the wall into your room with your eyes open.

Try playing some calm tunes from shpongle just loud enough to be audiable, not wisper soft though... those tunes send me to the coolest places...without aliens.

Lol I bet you laugh at acid now.
well i was sitting in my chair in the dark for a good 10 mins. and im pretty sure my eyes were closed but who knows.

oh yea i had shpongle DMT on, i totally forgot until now.

i still love some good acid, but fuck yea nothing can touch a hard d trip.
 
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