First Grow: Bagseed (Hopefully very successful with some luck and a shit ton of TLC)

woolypudding69 said:

The way the wall is painted is called "textured". I use tin foil and have not had a single instance of hotspots. Ive read a lot of conflicting ideas on foil and made the decision that I like it, that is until I can paint the walls a really nice white, which Im thinking of doing tomorrow morning sometime. Tin foil and emergency blankets, as well as the backside of some brands of xmas wrapping paper all can be used because they have high reflectivety. Im in the pro camp, but its entirely up to you.
I look at it like this, I have a fan on my plant while my lights are on, wind= leaf movement, how can a hotspot hurt my plant if the leaves are constantly being blown around?? They cant is my deduction.

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woolypudding69 said:

Low stress training is pretty easy on a plant. As for the yields, Im showing 5 new tops so I think overall its going to increase my yield. And the plant really took to it, the node growth has really started to bush out. As far as I know its not known for causing stunting or hermies, and in my case my plant seems to love me for it!
Thanks for trying to give me +rep, no worries mate its the thought that counts!

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Tamuuli said:

Well, by low stress training i kinda meant topping, Im almost positive im gonna separate branches by tying them. I used to be 100 percent for topping till i read a thread about an experiment where this guy grew one plant to medium size and one he grew big (clones of the same mother). In the end, he ended up getting a lot more off the medium, i think because the medium plant got to concentrate more on growing bud then size, but idk. Also i dont know if i can bring my self to cut the top, it just doesn't seem natural or good for the plant haha plus they are my littles man!

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woolypudding69 said:

See LST, or low stress training, is the tying down of the stem, making the top lower than the rest of the plant, it fools the plant into making more tops.
Now cutting the top is called topping, and like you said, it just doesnt seem natural, its not really, it creates way more stress the LST. But it does happen in nature sometimes, like a deer coming and biting off the top of the plant, or a bug eating it, or whatever may end up making it happen.
Tho this stresses the plant, it can be benificial. It all comes down to what you want to do. Experiment a little with plants you dont really care about. Thats what I use males for. You have to be careful with males tho, when you see balls forming, cut em off!

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Tamuuli said:

Welcome to my first grow fellow potsmokers

Background: Me and my partner in crime started with 7 bagseeds at his house planning on germinating all of them, but unfortunately we lost 3 of the seeds and from the other 4 only 2 germinated. I am a so to say complete newbie to growing cannabis but I have spent hours and hours reading threads, books, guides, etc. on how to grow so I like to believe I am very well prepared.

Set up:
Soil: Ferti Lome Ultimate potting mix (for now, getting FF Ocean ltr)
Seeds: 4x Bagseed. The bag they came from had really dank bud but it was filled with seeds. Hopefully not a Hermie plant
Lights: started sprouts with 2x 23 watt 6500k daylight, added another 2 a couple days later and adding more as needed.
Location: Friends Closet
Nutrients: Fox Farms Tri nutes
Temp/Hum control: Can change both with air conditioning to my will. My temperature is always 69-81 and humidity is 31-37
Names: for now 1 (Aka Mary) and 2 (aka Jane).

Day 1 (Aug 4th, 10pm): Put 4 seeds in shotglass with bottled water *hope arrowhead water is good for germinating*

Day 2 (Aug 5th, 10am): Moved seeds on a plate between two sheets wetted with distilled water and under a bowl

Day 3 (Aug 6th at night): 2 of the seeds show roots. Gonna let them grow more overnight.

Day 4 (Aug 7th, 10.30 am): Planted 2 seeds in red party cups *I think soil might be a tad too moist, but never really watered plants before soo...*

Day 5 (Aug 8th, 2 pm): Started 16/8 Cycle (on at 8a off at 12p) with 2x CFL. pH for both aprox 7. Humidity: aprox 34 %. Temp: right now at 78
(Aug 8th, 8.30 pm): *I See them!!!. 2 seems more developed* -Pic 1 * Mary is one the left and Jane on the right
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Day 6 (Aug 9th, 8.20 am): *Jane is standing up aprox 1/2 in -pic 1. Mary showing leaves but bent over - pic 2
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(Aug 9th, 6 pm): *Mary is reaching for the sky! -still small and weak looking tho but thats ok, i have faith in her!*
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(Aug 9th, 8 pm): Mary is about 1/2 in, Jane 1 in

Day 7 (Aug 10th, 10.30 am): Lights 3 in from Jane and 4 from Mary. Mary= 1in Jane= 1 1/4 in
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(Aug 10th, 2.50 pm): Just built new seedling box/area with +2 CFL - still needs mylar tho which ill be getting in the next few days (where do you find mylar?) *My babys are going to love ther new home *
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Day 8 (Aug 11th, 10 am): Watered with pH 6 water cuz pH was too high. *Mary= showing kind of odd growth but not too shabby. Jane= True leaves are coming in great! *. both of their pH level is 7 now
pic 1=Mary. pic 2= Jane. pic 3= Mary Jane (Jane is on the left now)
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Ill be updating this thread pretty much daily as i spend half of my day looking at the plants anyways haha

PS: Feedback is more then welcome!

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Tamuuli said:

Would it be worth it buying reflective material for the seedling box? all 3 of the walls are white but only one of them are flat, the other 2 are ripply white wall paint (haha don't know what to call it, see pic below). Would the other 2 walls create hotspots?
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If I should get something what is the best reflective material I could use? I know mylar sheets would be optimum but i dont think they sell that shit by me. Ive also heard mylar emergency blankets but I keep on hearing about them creating hotspots, unwanted heat and humidity (more humidity i wouldn't mind tho).

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nellyatcha said:

go to walmart and go to the sporting good section and buy emergency blankets they look just like mylar and is more better to use and get a fan on those plants , and rotate them 180 degree turns everyday

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Tamuuli said:

Are the cabinet doors gonna be open or closed? U got any pics of your design?

3 lbs will be a very nice personal sac! haha. I suggest that you take a two clones from each of the strains (1 female 1 male) and then keep them going in a vegetative room until after you harvest and cure. After you harvest remember to keep all the different kinds of weed in separate bags, smoke a joint of all of them and then pollinate the 2 strains that got you the most fucked up

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e-blankets dont cause hot spots, but it does keep heat in and adds humidity , but good shit i use them

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why pollenate when you can clone?

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dababydroman said:

haha look how long it took for noone to saya anything bout it sayin tlc

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Tamuuli said:

Yeah dude when I buy seeds im def gonna keep a mother and clone, I just suggested pollinating because you get a big quantity of seeds (seeds also grow faster and have a higher pest and disease resistance; clones taken from a flowering female take a while to revert back to vegetation), but mainly because then you could have your own strain (more personal and you can try to get the best features of both you favorite plants). But yes cloning would be a very good option aswell

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Shackleford.R said:

seeds grow faster? do you know what you're talking about?
just because you read a book doesnt make you a w33d baronz.

i'll grant you developing a personal strain. but its not just one pollination and bam you're done!

first generation has this or that wrong with it, you have to inbreed with one of the original strains, and so and so forth, i won't really talk about the subject because i'm not botanist (yet!! i am in school) and have never done the work.

but it is not as simple as you may think.

you're still concerned about odor control in your parents house.. don't get uppity and speak as if you know it all.

i don't know it all either, i'm still finishing up my first grow.

at any rate, any user should feel justified in saying "don't go around giving advice if you don't have the personal first hand experience"

i started a plant from seed, she went into flower, i cut clones on the third day, i had roots in 12 days.. and 3 1/2" tall plant, try that from seed.



Shack

ps dont take my tone as "eff you" but more of a "welcome to RIU" someone put me in my place early on, and honestly i feel like a better grower/user because of it.

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greensister said:

The entertainment center is 2 tier. The top part where the TV would go will the the veg area, and the bottom cabinet, where people would put movies and that will be the cloning/germination area.

I no longer have any flowering males so i cant make seeds this time around, unless someone upwind of me is growing as well. I have many seeds that i have been collecting throughout the summer and ill have enough smoke to keep me going until my indoor grow is ready.

Do you have drainage holes in your cups right now? I have also heard that in the seedling stage, when there are 3 sets of true leaves on your plants, if you cut the amount of light, lower the temp, raise the humidity, and give lots of N, there is a stronger chance that your plants will be female. I think this may have some merit as to the experiment i did where the plants that had the least amount of N from the beginning produced the most males, and the plants that were giving high N early on produced the most females. They all received the same amount of light, temperature, and humidity, so it wasnt a comprehensive experiment, but none the less, i feel i learned something.

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