Fan Leaf Rapid Death

Beachwalker

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I have been adding cal mag but it seems to still continue. I water depending on the plant. My shortest is still about 4-5 days while the others I water usually every 3.
I lifted them up grow rocks below the fabric and allow a good amount of runoff every time.

I'm at a loss as to whether or not something is somehow locking up or what. I try to make sure the top inch of soil is dry before watering as well so I didn't think it would be over watering.
Also stop with this "top inch dry" stuff stick your finger way in there! I stick my finger in the bottom drain hole (sorry Virginia).

I think you've got some over-watering going on & I'm not sure what else yet but that would seem to be an issue to. You need a PPM meter to know what kind of tap water your using and for many other uses too, 10 bucks, get one ..those plants are worth it!
 

halo2killer

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Nice. Does any of your fan leaf stems go purplish?
It's hard to tell but it could be over watering, Incorrect PH or just stress. Some plants genetically have purple stems. But I personally think it's over watering. Overwatering does not always mean you’ve been giving the plant too much water. It can also mean that you’ve been giving the plant water too often, or growing plants in a growing medium that holds onto water without enough air, or doesn’t have good drainage out the bottom.
 

SpriteShine

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It's hard to tell but it could be over watering, Incorrect PH or just stress. Some plants genetically have purple stems. But I personally think it's over watering. Overwatering does not always mean you’ve been giving the plant too much water. It can also mean that you’ve been giving the plant water too often, or growing plants in a growing medium that holds onto water without enough air, or doesn’t have good drainage out the bottom.
Well I do know they have good drainage. Water basically runs right through. However If I'm not supposed to do the "top inch" thing when is it time?
Honey banana will droop after day 3 all day instead of just before lights out. The rest it's harder to tell.
 

halo2killer

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Well I do know they have good drainage. Water basically runs right through. However If I'm not supposed to do the "top inch" thing when is it time?
Honey banana will droop after day 3 all day instead of just before lights out. The rest it's harder to tell.
Good luck to you bro. You can buy a soil meter that basically tells you if you need to water.

This is what I used to use to be sure I was not over watering. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Mosser-Lee-Soil-Master-Moisture-Meter-1220/204373750
 

Beachwalker

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Well I do know they have good drainage. Water basically runs right through. However If I'm not supposed to do the "top inch" thing when is it time?
Honey banana will droop after day 3 all day instead of just before lights out. The rest it's harder to tell.
A lot of folks Water by weight, they know when it feels empty, or light.

..pick it up and feel it next time it's dry, and remember the feel of that weight and when it feels like that again that's when we water
 

undercovergrow

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A dry cycle? I left 6 days in between the last water if that's what you mean?
Yes. As @Beachwalker mentioned above, feel the weight of your girl when you know she's dry and compare that to the weight of her when you've given a really good water. don't water again until she feels light again. that will give you good cycles of wet/dry for the girls. good luck with your grow.
 

SpriteShine

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A lot of folks Water by weight, they know when it feels empty, or light.

..pick it up and feel it next time it's dry, and remember the feel of that weight and when it feels like that again that's when we water
I have purchased a moisture tester and they are all right below "moist". I have also tested the runoff for each plant and they all appear to be between 6.5 and 7.
I have also purchased Epsom salt to add to distilled PHed water. Would it be wise to lightly foliar feed potassium?
 

Beachwalker

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I have purchased a moisture tester and they are all right below "moist". I have also tested the runoff for each plant and they all appear to be between 6.5 and 7.
I have also purchased Epsom salt to add to distilled PHed water. Would it be wise to lightly foliar feed potassium?
pH runoff should ideally, from my observations, be lower coming out then going in. Why are you using distilled water?

eg. If put in 6.5 pH, I usually get out 5.8 - 6.2 runoff most of the time ? I wouldn't change too much right now, except the over-watering until you figure out what's up and then go forward from there with a defined plan
 
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SpriteShine

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pH runoff should ideally, from my observations, be lower coming out then going in. Why are you using distilled water?

eg. If put in 6.5 pH, I usually get out 5.8 - 6.2 runoff most of the time ? I wouldn't change too much right now, except the over-watering until you figure out what's up and then go forward from there with a defined plan
I only used distilled if it's for a flush type thing. As far as PH goes I use liquid drops so I can't see point for point. At the beginning of the grow I used regular tap water with no pH readings. My tap water turns out to be closer to 8. So I lowered and now pay attention to the pH going in and out which might be why the fluctuation.
 

Beachwalker

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PH meter plus PPM meter both under 25 bucks on Amazon, great investment, if you're serious you kinda have to have these

.. and I don't understand why the flushing? I almost never flush a plant, I don't get that?
 

CannaCountry

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Observing; you have a potassium and Mg issue. Whether it's because you haven't supplied enough or it's being locked out is another question. You'll need to assure yourself of the medium's pH, but I wouldn't do this via your runoff; you'll end up chasing your tail more often than not. Keep an eye on your new growth; despite what you do, the damaged leaves are damaged, they won't recover regardless if you bring everything back to perfect. You're in soil; steady goes the course and eliminate your variables one at a time. You'll work it out.
 

Tangerine_

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Isnt NFTG a calcium based nute line meant to be used with RO water?

I'd think over doing it with tap water and extra Cal could bind things up.

Just something to take into account.
 
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