EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You use the same excuse for any evidence that contradicts your opinion

You dismiss it outright, on arbitrary basis, because you don't like it, and it disproves the claims you make, rather than addressing the substance of the argument being made...

...just like conservatives
tell us again how you believe trump when he says it was rigged against bernie
 

Fogdog

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You use the same excuse for any evidence that contradicts your opinion

You dismiss it outright, on arbitrary basis, because you don't like it, and it disproves the claims you make, rather than addressing the substance of the argument being made...

...just like conservatives
I do dismiss liars outright.

I've listened to Jimmy Dore and spent some time with both you and tty explaining why Dore's show fits the definition of propaganda.

Besides spewing distortions and lies about Democrats, he a proponent of all sorts of false conspriacy theories and advocates that the left join white supremacists. A litany of all the conspiracy theories he pushes can be found here:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dore

A great quote from this site:

General madness
Dore has entertained, supported or enabled many bullshit claims. This has resulted in Dore losing a portion of his audience, who feel he has stepped over the line in some cases.Highlights include:

  • He presented unsubstantiated rumours about Hillary Clinton as if they were factual, including that Clinton started the birther movement in 2008, and that she wanted to murder Julian Assange with a drone (yes, Dore really believed this).
  • He has also promoted fake stories relating to Hillary Clinton such as that Google manipulated search results to favor her, and he wrongly speculated that she has Parkinson's disease.
  • In October 2017, Dore said he still thinks Hillary Clinton had Parkinson's:
I still think Hillary Clinton-- I still think she had Parkinson's by the way. It will come out in a few years that she has fucking Parkinson's.

  • He has described Snopes as "completely worthless" and "Democratic propaganda."
  • He seemed to feel "investigative journalist" James O'Keefe's CNN undercover videos help prove that the mainstream media has gone dangerously overboard in its zeal to undermine Trump.
  • A December 2014 video on Dore's YouTube channel showed that he does not agree with the current scientific consensus on genetically modified food, because of course. Mark Thompson, who was the voice actor for Dore's video, stated that Monsanto has been "genetically modifying Americans for over a century." Earlier, in November 2013, Dore supported the pseudoscientific claim that GMOs cause cancer. Later the same month, Dore acknowledged that studies do not support the claim that GMOs cause cancer, but said that he still hates them.
The guy is either fucking nuts or smart like a fox. There is no information about who funds his site, by the way. His message and format fits exactly the right wing conservative propaganda model for suppressing liberal votes. Regardless how he is paid, his site is worthless propaganda. I'm guessing he's smart like a fox.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Jimmy Dore Show is a propaganda tool for the radical right. Anything from that show is suspect.
how come you didn't mention the very creepy alex jones following sanders around the airport as being suspect?

are you an AJ fan?

@Padawanbater2 is correct, you need a de-program and quick..i know you can't understand, but you've lost yourself
to their hate.
 
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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I do dismiss liars outright.

I've listened to Jimmy Dore and spent some time with both you and tty explaining why Dore's show fits the definition of propaganda.

Besides spewing distortions and lies about Democrats, he a proponent of all sorts of false conspriacy theories and advocates that the left join white supremacists. A litany of all the conspiracy theories he pushes can be found here:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dore

A great quote from this site:

General madness
Dore has entertained, supported or enabled many bullshit claims. This has resulted in Dore losing a portion of his audience, who feel he has stepped over the line in some cases.Highlights include:

  • He presented unsubstantiated rumours about Hillary Clinton as if they were factual, including that Clinton started the birther movement in 2008, and that she wanted to murder Julian Assange with a drone (yes, Dore really believed this).
  • He has also promoted fake stories relating to Hillary Clinton such as that Google manipulated search results to favor her, and he wrongly speculated that she has Parkinson's disease.
  • In October 2017, Dore said he still thinks Hillary Clinton had Parkinson's:
I still think Hillary Clinton-- I still think she had Parkinson's by the way. It will come out in a few years that she has fucking Parkinson's.

  • He has described Snopes as "completely worthless" and "Democratic propaganda."
  • He seemed to feel "investigative journalist" James O'Keefe's CNN undercover videos help prove that the mainstream media has gone dangerously overboard in its zeal to undermine Trump.
  • A December 2014 video on Dore's YouTube channel showed that he does not agree with the current scientific consensus on genetically modified food, because of course. Mark Thompson, who was the voice actor for Dore's video, stated that Monsanto has been "genetically modifying Americans for over a century." Earlier, in November 2013, Dore supported the pseudoscientific claim that GMOs cause cancer. Later the same month, Dore acknowledged that studies do not support the claim that GMOs cause cancer, but said that he still hates them There is no 'new.
The guy is either fucking nuts or smart like a fox. There is no information about who funds his site, by the way. His message and format fits exactly the right wing conservative propaganda model for suppressing liberal votes. Regardless how he is paid, his site is worthless propaganda. I'm guessing he's smart like a fox.
i clicked your wiki link since you provided citation..thank you. didn't look like any wiki bio i've ever seen..truth brings out the haters.

Jimmy Dore is a progressive with an opinion based on facts uncovered.

There is no 'news' in his digital masthead..The Jimmy Dore Show.

who writes wiki bio's? any idea?
 
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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
personally, i thought it was the best when that guy who looks like Bryan Cranston confronted Jones on Sandy Hook.

to jones right up in his face: 'what guy am i? what guy am i?..stellar:clap:

i wish i knew who he was..think i'll make a t-shirt.
 
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londonfog

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Jimmy Dore = Bernie Sanders-obsessed, which in turns tends to lead to stupidity. Bernie obsession will make you turn on people who are very much on your side versus the people who really will do nothing for you. Bernie obsession can make you go completely negative on Dems, but have you ignoring the damage Trump and Repuke are doing to you.
Bernie obsession will have you ignore that Bernie was for her.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Jimmy Dore = Bernie Sanders-obsessed, which in turns tends to lead to stupidity. Bernie obsession will make you turn on people who are very much on your side versus the people who really will do nothing for you. Bernie obsession can make you go completely negative on Dems, but have you ignoring the damage Trump and Repuke are doing to you.
Bernie obsession will have you ignore that Bernie was for her.
are you high? i seriously don't get what you're trying to say here..try again, please.
 

londonfog

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are you high? i seriously don't get what you're trying to say here..try again, please.
WTF I'm supposed to be on fucking ignore. Can you please be a women of your word.
Yes I am high, but I also have a problem with someone who would bash Dems, but completely ignore what Trump and the Repukes are doing...why, because Bernard didn't win
Bernie was with her.
Bernie obsession can be unhealthy, for you and Jimmy Dore
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
WTF I'm supposed to be on fucking ignore. Can you please be a women of your word.
Yes I am high, but I also have a problem with someone who would bash Dems, but completely ignore what Trump and the Repukes are doing...why, because Bernard didn't win
Bernie was with her.
Bernie obsession can be unhealthy, for you and Jimmy Dore
i'm in a good mood..don't blow it.

it's in the dnc rulez you must support the primary winner regardless of how they got there. bernie was 'with her' contractually only.

next question..
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
how come you didn't mention the very creepy alex jones following sanders around the airport as being suspect?

are you an AJ fan?

@Padawanbater2 is correct, you need a de-program and quick..i know you can't understand, but you've lost yourself
to their hate.
I didn't mention Alex Jones because I was responding to the Jimmy Dore propaganda piece you posted.

Which brings something I DID want to ask you left wing nuts. Do Berners oppose censoring Alex Jones on the various social media sites? What about twitter? Should he be censored there too?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I didn't mention Alex Jones because I was responding to the Jimmy Dore propaganda piece you posted.

Which brings something I DID want to ask you left wing nuts. Do Berners oppose censoring Alex Jones on the various social media sites? What about twitter? Should he be censored there too?
is alex jones stalking bernie sanders at the airport a propaganda piece? why/why not?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
i clicked your wiki link since you provided citation..thank you. didn't look like any wiki bio i've ever seen..truth brings out the haters.

Jimmy Dore is a progressive with an opinion based on facts uncovered.

There is no 'news' in his digital masthead..The Jimmy Dore Show.

who writes wiki bio's? any idea?
It was Rational Wiki and every fact presented there was cited with reference material taken from Jimmy Dore's own show.

So you believe all those conspiracy theories and madness that Jimmy Dore espouses.

Among them:
Hillary Clinton wanted to kill Assange with a drone
9-11 Twin Towers disaster was an inside job
Murder of Seth Rich
Fake Syrian government Sarin attacks
Hillary Clinton has Parkinsons
Las Vegas shooting was done with multiple shooters

The above isn't even a complete list. Anybody could susbcribe to one or two of them but all of them? You'd have to be as batshit crazy as @ttystikk to believe all of them like Dore says he does while he rants on about Democrats.

I knew you are susceptible to conspiracy theories because you continue to cling to the belief that the Democratic primary was rigged but I had hoped you weren't totally lost in them.

To me the most damning thing about Dore, worse than all the lies he spews on his show is his advocacy that the left should join with White Supremacists and alt.right groups. His purpose? "to stop US wars".
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
is alex jones stalking bernie sanders at the airport a propaganda piece? why/why not?
What does alex jones who is beyond just a propaganda mouthpiece have to do with Jimmy Dore being a propaganda mouthpiece, a liar who espouses fake conspiracies as fact in order to delude people and worst of all, advocates that the left should join with white supremacists?
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
i'm in a good mood..don't blow it.

it's in the dnc rulez you must support the primary winner regardless of how they got there. bernie was 'with her' contractually only.

next question..
You can't help but peek
I can't find a fuck to give whether I "blow it" or not...In fact tell me how I can blow it, so we can make this happen.
Bernie did not have to support her. He did because he knew she would be tens times better than Trump. No rule says he had to support her.
Bernie obsession can make one rather stupid
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I didn't mention Alex Jones because I was responding to the Jimmy Dore propaganda piece you posted.

Which brings something I DID want to ask you left wing nuts. Do Berners oppose censoring Alex Jones on the various social media sites? What about twitter? Should he be censored there too?
censoring? to what extent?
 
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