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Cowboys failed for diuretics in the wecSomeone needs to test Cowboy for everything
Canelo vs Jacobs was decent too, Jacobs is right up there with Canelo GGG imo.
CannaBruh
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IF they are the cause behind him fighting this way I'm all for Cowboy diuretics exemption.
Let them all take everything, all other sports (that matter) do.
Skeet Kuhn Dough
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Does anybody wanna talk about Rose getting dumped on her neck and losing her belt after the KO? She was easily winning that fight by no small margin right up until she got slammed. 
a mongo frog
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Im still sad. Would rather leave this subject alone.
Skeet Kuhn Dough
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I think she would get an immediate rematch based upon the way the fight had been unfolding. Don't know if you watched the post fight interview but there's a good chance that Rose isn't even going to ever fight again. She had been considering retiring after this fight. Thinking maybe she's just done. I've heard fighters say that training, cutting weight, etc is a grind and that eventually you get sick of earning your pay through combat. Rose said she just paid her house off. She could just open up a gym somewhere, slap her name on it, and live happily ever after. I dunno. Don't take it to hard, mi amigo. I don't think Rose is. Did you see Anderson Silva get his knee jacked? Dude, that was painful to see.
socaljoe
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She was busting Jessica up prior to that slam, no doubt.
About that slam...I'm of the opinion that slams are dangerous moves that should be made illegal under the unified rules. What conversation would we be having right now if that slam had broken Rose's neck? The 12-6 elbow, one of the weakest elbow strikes in terms of power, is illegal, but pick someone up over your head and slam them onto their head, that's no problemo.
Skeet Kuhn Dough
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I understand your concern, but please understand that it's a full contact sport, very dangerous. What if Holly had killed Ronda when she kicked her in the head with her shin? Tbh, as D. Cruz pointed out, had Rose given up on the submission she probably would have landed on her back. She might have almost got the armbar earlier but sticking with her submission attempt got her KO'd. It was Rose's mistake, and a costly one at that. I think Rose wins the rematch IF she still wants to fight.
CannaBruh
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Sticking with the submission is why the slam was legal, if no attempt to peel out of a submission via slam then that slam already IS ILLEGAL.
Had Rose let go of the Kimura..... or hooked one of those legs with her own, or turned into her back, or or or...
perfectly legal slam, if we don't allow fighters to slam out of submissions all the wrestlers are fookt.
Rose clearly is the better striker, Jessica clearly is the better slam artist. It's mma, where we watch styles collide.
Here the wrestler/brawler got the number of the striker/grappler.
Had Rose let go of the Kimura..... or hooked one of those legs with her own, or turned into her back, or or or...
perfectly legal slam, if we don't allow fighters to slam out of submissions all the wrestlers are fookt.
Rose clearly is the better striker, Jessica clearly is the better slam artist. It's mma, where we watch styles collide.
Here the wrestler/brawler got the number of the striker/grappler.
Skeet Kuhn Dough
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I agree with almost everything you said.
As set out by the Association of Boxing Commissions:[9]
- Grabbing the fence
- Holding opponent’s shorts or gloves
- Head-butting
- Biting or spitting at an opponent
- Hair pulling
- Fish-hooking
- Intentionally placing a finger into any orifice, or into any cut or laceration of an opponent
- Eye gouging of any kind
- Groin attacks
- Downward pointing of elbow strikes (see 12-6 elbow)
- Small joint manipulation
- Strikes to the spine or back of the head or anything behind the ears (see Rabbit punch)
- Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea
- Fingers outstretched towards opponent's face/eyes
- Clawing, pinching, twisting the flesh
- Kicking and knee-striking the head of a grounded opponent (see Soccer kick)
- Stomping an opponent on the ground
- Swearing or offensive language in the cage (although nobody ever received deductions or disqualifications in fights)
- Any unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to opponent
- Attacking an opponent during a break
- Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee
- Timidity (avoiding contact, consistent dropping of mouthpiece, or faking an injury)
- Throwing opponent out of the ring/fighting area
- Interference from a mixed martial artist's cornerman
- Flagrant disregard of the referee’s instructions
- Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his or her head or neck (see Piledriver)
- Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat
I think this was roses first fight after having a fractured neck. Getting dropped on your head like thats gotta be pretty scary I could see her walking away after that. It sucks because she was beating that girls ass up until that point.
Skeet Kuhn Dough
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Rose could've let go of that arm, taken the slam on her back, then looked for the submission afterwards. Amazing how one little mistake can cause a complete turnaround in a fight. Much more incalculable than boxing.
CannaBruh
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Very much a "puncher's chance" moment, granted Jessica had I believe more than a puncher's chance, but she was getting pieced up that fight, much Like Anderson was vs Chael, but we now what happened there too.. fight game anything can happen.
Bubby'sndalab
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"El cucuy" Tony Ferguson vs"cowboy" Donald cerrone-holy shit my pants jus got tight-thats gonna be a war-both those dudes are warriors
CannaBruh
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The downside to this fight is one will not get a title shot when both are deserving.
Bubby'sndalab
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Yea both guys deserve a shot-toughest division is 155-i think they need a 165
CannaBruh
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they could spin up 165 today and both 155 and 165 would still be stacked with killers, right now we have congested 155 and it's fucking things up... I don't agree with that another belt dilutes anything, if anything the interim belts have diluted the worth of a belt, another real championship belt would open things up imo.
think about it, how many lw interim champs have there been since Conor beat Eddie?
Khabib/Al (was real belt but who was champ to lose it?)
Tony/Kevin
Dustin/Max
did I miss any?
We already have 3x lightweight champs of which none beat a sitting belted champion... but i digress..
Bubby'sndalab
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Totally agree-165 would let some of the bigger 155'rs a division
Skeet Kuhn Dough
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I am really psyched up for that fight as well. I love Cowboy and he's been on a roll... but I do believe that Tony is just on some other level. If somebody is going to beat Khabib.... I would suspect that it is Tony Ferguson.