Every one please take a minute to read this post !!!!!!

BRN

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Please make this go viral on youtube or post it everywhere. We have until October 16th at 9:30 A.M. To potentially end Marijuanna Prohibition in our lifetime. We won't get another chance at this. Strangely I found this annoucement in only one newspaper so mainstream media is not airing this. Please read this article very carefully people and get the word out to the world. We have 2 weeks to get this out to all major Cannabis sites and anywhere you can get the word out.

Milestone medical marijuana case goes to court


Dave Stancliff/for the Times-Standardtimes-standard.com/
Created: 09/30/2012 02:09:22 AM PDT



A rare opportunity for medical marijuana patients is coming on Oct. 16 at 9:30 a.m. in the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.
Science will be pitted against politically motivated decisions for the first time. It's a match-up the feds have avoided for years.
Ten years after the Coalition for Rescheduling Cannabis (CRC) filed its petition, the courts will finally review the scientific evidence regarding the therapeutic value of marijuana.
The D.C. Circuit Court agreed to hear oral arguments in Americans for Safe Access v. Drug Enforcement Administration.
”Medical marijuana patients are finally getting their day in court,” said Joe Elford, Chief Counsel with Americans for Safe Access, the country's leading medical marijuana advocacy group.
”What's at stake in this case is nothing less than our country's scientific integrity and the imminent needs of millions of patients,” Elford said in a press release.
This is a case that could have major implications for taking marijuana out of Schedule I, a category that also includes heroin and LSD.
Schedule I drugs are described as substances that “have a high potential for abuse, have no current accepted medical use in the United States, and there is a lack of accepted safety for the use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.” Perhaps it was no coincidence that the announcement of oral arguments comes weeks after a study
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by Dr. Igor Grant was published in The Open Neurology Journal. He is one of the leading U.S. medical marijuana researchers, and claims marijuana's Schedule I classification is “not tenable.”
For years now, advocates for medical marijuana have submitted reports and studies showing the medicinal effects of marijuana but have been unable to crack the feds' wall of blind resistance to them.
Dr. Grant and his associates have concluded it's not true that marijuana has no medical value, nor that information on safety is lacking. The study urged additional research, and stated that marijuana's federal classification and its political controversy are “obstacles to medical progress in this area.”
The Obama Justice Department has been escalating its attacks in medical marijuana states, with dozens of new federal indictments and prosecutions. Though U.S. Attorneys often claim the accused have violated state law in some way, defendants are prevented from using any medical evidence or a state law defense in federal court.
Hopefully we'll see sanity and logic prevail, and marijuana will be reclassified, allowing federal defendants to use a medical necessity defense in future cases.
Seventeen states and the District of Columbia have adopted medical marijuana laws that not only recognize the medical efficacy of marijuana, but also provide safe and legal access to it.
The DEA's aggressive campaign against marijuana has escalated under the Obama administration and it's more important now than ever for patients to get their rights back. The trend has to be stopped.
How unreasonable have the feds been? During congressional testimony earlier this year, DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart refused to say whether crack or heroin posed bigger health risks than marijuana.
Really? I don't know how Leonhart can look in the mirror after displaying that kind of stubborn ignorance. From day one, making marijuana illegal was a political ploy, based upon racism and ignorance.
Now there's a chance to reverse decades of a failed policy that should never have developed. Imagine how much more can be discovered about the medical properties of marijuana when legitimate research is funded instead of the bogus fed-funded farces that have been the rule thus far?
Millions of people will benefit. Millions of dollars can be diverted from the Lost War on Drugs if marijuana is rescheduled. The door will be open to legalization, something that 50 percent of Americans want, according to national polls.
As It Stands, this is a milestone case because it's the first time the real merits of marijuana will be considered by a federal court that could change its legal status.
Dave Stancliff is a retired newspaper editor and publisher who writes this column for The Times-Standard. Comments can be sent to [email protected]. Visit Dave at LEARNIST -- http://learni.st/ -- under the categories POLITICS & SOCIETY.
Copyright 2012 Eureka Times-Standard. All rights reserved.
 

growone

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this could be a huge case, a breakthrough case!
but reality will intrude, if you believe that a fair hearing is going to happen, well, that's probably not a sure thing
massive influence behind the scenes, DEA/DOJ and the corrupt law enforcement lobby will have a disproportionate say
i'm hopeful, but i don't see this prohibition ending that easily
 

george xxx

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Ten years after the Coalition for Rescheduling Cannabis (CRC) filed its petition, the courts will finally review the scientific evidence regarding the therapeutic value of marijuana.
The D.C. Circuit Court agreed to hear oral arguments in Americans for Safe Access v. Drug Enforcement Administration.

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Schedule I drugs are described as substances that “have a high potential for abuse, have no current accepted medical use in the United States, and there is a lack of accepted safety for the use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.” Perhaps it was no coincidence that the announcement of oral arguments comes weeks after a study
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The Obama Justice Department has been escalating its attacks in medical marijuana states, with dozens of new federal indictments and prosecutions. Though U.S. Attorneys often claim the accused have violated state law in some way, defendants are prevented from using any medical evidence or a state law defense in federal court.
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Seventeen states and the District of Columbia have adopted medical marijuana laws that not only recognize the medical efficacy of marijuana, but also provide safe and legal access to it.
The DEA's aggressive campaign against marijuana has escalated under the Obama administration and it's more important now than ever for patients to get their rights back. The trend has to be stopped.

I'd like to see it legalizied as much as anyone but I'm neither stupid nor blind.




courts will finally review the scientific evidence regarding the therapeutic value of marijuana.

I don't think spreding it around will have much effect. The feds cannot deny therapeutic value. Therapeutic value is recorded as a matter of record in the US Government patent on cannabinoids. patent number 6,630,507 states unequivocally that cannabinoids are useful in the prevention and treatment of a wide variety of diseases including auto-immune disorders, stroke, trauma, Parkinson's, Alzeheimer's and HIV dementia. The patent, awarded in 2003, is based on research done by the National Institute of Health, and is assigned to the US Dept. of Health and Human Services. http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2008/jul/23/significance_us_govt_cannabinoid

Therapeutic value is somewhat irrelevant to Marijuana being a controlled substance. The drug classification is what actually makes it illegal. It is not illegal for what it does or does not do. A Federal Court decision finding that Marijuana had medicinal value will change nothing.


The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
There are many thousands if not millions of people who want it just to get high. Those people have no interest in any medicinal value. Since these people have no intention of seeking medical marijuana They are a very high potential for abuse.


There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision
Part of the California issues is safety and problems created by dispensaries.
It’s not the actual dispensary but the riffraff that chooses to hang around such places.
Selling clones at the local farmers market can hardly be classified as safe and under medical supervision. And then there are those infamous Craig’s list deals. No possibility of safety there. It’s a wild growing weed with no possibility of preventing growing and illegal distribution.
Any Federal Court judge who rules there is safety in that has a good chance of be disbarred for lunacy.
 

Grewdat

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There are many thousands if not millions of people who want it just to get high. Those people have no interest in any medicinal value. Since these people have no intention of seeking medical marijuana They are a very high potential for abuse.

People who use for recreation may not even realize why they enjoy smoking. I would be willing to bet that a very large portion of that group uses cannabis because it does have a therapeutic effect for them. They probably don't even realize what they suffer from. They just know that when they smoke they feel better.

For instance. Imagine one of those folks who think all psychiatrists are quacks. They may suffer from an anxiety disorder but they'd never know. All that person knows is when they smoke they feel good. They feel relief. Without any understanding of it.

That was me for a long time.

I agree with your points but I just wanted to point out that people most people are undiagnosed. If they benefit in a positive way from cannabis use long term then it's likely they suffer from some other ailment for which they're self medicating. Like most addicts.
 

ClaytonBigsby

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There are many thousands if not millions of people who want it just to get high. Those people have no interest in any medicinal value. Since these people have no intention of seeking medical marijuana They are a very high potential for abuse.

Every day Millions of people get drunk, do physical harm to themselves, and to others. How does alcohol have any medicinal value? So, according to you, if someone wants to smoke MJ, but does not have a Rx, they are abusing it? MJ hightens your awareness and makes your senses more acute. Alcohol does the exact opposite; dulling your senses and impairing your motor skills and inhibitions. Let's try to stay positive and demand that people see, and accept the truth.


The questions people should be asking is how can we help them open their minds and force them to do the right thing?
 

tumorhead

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Honestly if you've been prescribed a narcotic within the past year for pain, you should automatically be able to use MMJ without having to pay some stupid fee to some bullshit doctor for some bullshit recommendation.

It should just be fucking known that eating edibles is comparable to eating a percocet, minus the side effects of constipation, addiction, and nausea.
 

george xxx

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Let's try to stay positive and demand that people see, and accept the truth.


The questions people should be asking is how can we help them open their minds and force them to do the right thing?
Dam good question. Sure wish I had the answer. The thing a lot of people want to avoid is a major part of current problems, regulation. The laws in the legal states are proving to do a very poor job if any at regulating. Without regulation the laws will all fail because the tax man cannot get his fair share. Anyone who supports regulation is pretty much deemed an asshole by the MJ community from the start. The feds would have no porblem with legalization if they could regulate it like they do drug manufacturing. The feds gladly give drug manufacturers millions of dollars to do drug research and the manufacturers get to reap all the profit. Feds don't care because they have control of manufacture, distribution and taxation. The true problem is how to regulate a wild growing weed everyone wants. Federal oversight of every backyard in America is more daunting than the war on drugs.
 

growone

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best could be better than sched 2, i saw that 3,4, and 5 were mentioned in some of the filings
not saying that is very likely, and what effect such a ruling might have
i know the controlled substances act is under both the control of Congress and the Executive branch(DOJ, DEA, and god knows who else)
so a court changing a drug schedule seems implausible, at least not directly
 

growone

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one would hope, but i could see a sched 2 changing nothing as far as penalties
DEA would likely be petty, and keep doing business as usual
 

kwilli

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best could be better than sched 2, i saw that 3,4, and 5 were mentioned in some of the filings
not saying that is very likely, and what effect such a ruling might have
i know the controlled substances act is under both the control of Congress and the Executive branch(DOJ, DEA, and god knows who else)
so a court changing a drug schedule seems implausible, at least not directly

The court can recommend that it be changed, (which I believe they have done in the past, and the DEA swept it under the rug) or they can order it to be changed.
 

growone

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i can't recall any drug's scheduling being changed from a court decision
at least in an effective way, i.e DEA hitting the ignore button on a prior decision
if so, precedent could be murky
 
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