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woodsmantoker said:

Please do! As I have mentioned before, I am working on a scrog strain list. I will add the information you gather on the said strains.

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If you don't mind me asking what do you have so far? Im planning a scrog for my next grow. I think Grand Daddy Purple would be good for a scrog because it grows bushy with a lot of branchs. What do you think?

If I am using multiple strains, would the SOG method be better?

stacatto99 said:

If I am using multiple strains, would the SOG method be better?

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Would depend on the strain I suppose; single cola growth pattern plants don’t do well in scrog. If you are running all potentially "good" scrog strains, having them in individual screens while still creating the same plane, would be greatly effective.

Hello,

I'm about 3 weeks into a my first ScrOG. In my typical fashion I jumped in head first. My screen size is 4' x 8' under 1 x 600 watt HPS and 2 x 400 watt HPS. In FFOF soil and 3 gal pots. I'm hosting two strains and one was great for a ScrOG and the other would and will be great for SOG.

The BC Kush grows quickly with spansive reaching branches and a slightly large node space. This strain seemingly has endless reach and needs to be controlled a bit. Due to the node spacing I would use a spiral pattern to double back over empty spaces.

The Grapefruit Diesel is a stout B!t[h .... with extremely tight nodes space. This strain is perfect for SOG and I have some ladies to show you later on this point.

Is grapefruit diesel much like the others? I got a cut supposed to be purple sour d. Im expecting it to stretch like all hell. Anyone grown it?

^^ never grown it before but that's also on my next grow list.

I would also like to hear the top strains for scrog

Is there a few names that always crop up in scrog grows/journals? Whats comes highly reccomended?

Another weary but happy straggler in from the 47 page read.. so stoked. This is that thread for me. The one I been looking for. Wood u been awesome... the words on leaving space to cleanly switch buckets and the bog / stadium stuff are gonna help my show wihtout a doubt. I made my screen a little small for my space and it was buggin me, but building a larger one to sit stadium style above it might be killer. Good access to the buckets and plants and still get all of my area. More even.

Boomer congrats man on an awesome shed. Those picks are like bud porn but for sick set-ups. I get the feeling that you understand too that if you have $4 to your name then that means you can spend $5 on grow stuff. I'm running so many of the same elements - same nutes, same lights, same size, dwc w/ ice, stanley blowers (never saw anybody else with one before), on same screen. The cooler idea is awesome. Watching your grow has been like seeing the future.

Quck, Wolf, Trich, others.. awesome grows. If the contest idea is still being kicked around then I'm in too.

Howdy Jestermite,
We most certainly are glad to have ya! Its a bit of a read these days that’s for sure, but as I am sure you already know its the only place like it. I wish you the best on your new found scrog venture and I have a feeling we will be seeing good things from you soon my friend. Keep us posted.

Link to WW scrog Vid: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=White+Widow+Scrog&aq=o

"Is there a few names that always crop up in scrog grows/journals? Whats comes highly reccomended?"

Mostly the popular medical strains and heavy producers.
I have seen WW done more times than anything else. I contribute it to the strains already established popularity.
Fast flowering sativa dominant hybrids are recommendable. A flowering structure of a good indica with fast rapid growth and pre flower stretch of a sativa. A fast finish with a heavily filled screen.

woodsmantoker said:

"Is there a few names that always crop up in scrog grows/journals? Whats comes highly reccomended?"

Mostly the popular medical strains and heavy producers.
I have seen WW done more times than anything else. I contribute it to the strains already established popularity.
Fast flowering sativa dominant hybrids are recommendable. A flowering structure of a good indica with fast rapid growth and pre flower stretch of a sativa. A fast finish with a heavily filled screen.

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yes yes yes apart from WW what do you always go back to? I currently have AK47 (Serious Seeds), Northen Lights (unsure which one), SpeedQueen and have seeds for Lemon Skunk and Cheese (both of these are from Greenhouse)

Would any of these be suitable? If so which one(s)

Try 'Crimea Blue' from Barneys it's worked a treat for me - fimmed first... it sounds like what you lot are saying is an ideal plant.. 80% indica 20% sativa Ukranian Hash Plant/Blueberry.... 3 weeks into flower and a beast!

woodsmantoker said:

Howdy Jestermite,
We most certainly are glad to have ya! Its a bit of a read these days that’s for sure, but as I am sure you already know its the only place like it. I wish you the best on your new found scrog venture and I have a feeling we will be seeing good things from you soon my friend. Keep us posted.

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Thanks woodsman - Yep I got pics an questions coming for sure...That design with the glass partition is interesting. Any drawbacks to pushing light through some fairly thick glass? I have a nice big piece from a glass table I could sacrifice for this and am thinking it would make a nice barrier in my veg box between the 400MH heat and the reservoirs, as long as it doesn't seriously draw back the light quality. Would it? I know it's not a cool tube, but I coulnd't get one of those in with how it's built. The dimensions are close and this is gonna sound dumb to some but... is there a way to trim about an inch off of an edge of a pretty thick mm glass to make it fit? I know they make glass cutters and such but this might be a stretch.. maybe I could catch a windshield replacement guy?
The temps are okay for now but with the hot months coming it's gonna be a real challenge for me to keep the res temps anywhere near right. The other thing I'm kicking around, after catching boomer's set up, is to place an actual cooler in the box. I forgot that my neighbor gave me a Coleman that actually plugs in to provide it's own refigeration. Even has a 12V adapter. Not having seen one before, I didn't even know they existed. This might be slick for anybody who will battle high res temps. Gotta think the overall cost and effectivenes might be better than a stand alone chiller in thin plastic reservoirs, in some set-ups anyway. Can pic this cooler for anybody curious. The combination of 85+ degree box temps and a nice chilly DWC reservoir would be a good step toward big serious growth I think.
Short of glass, the other thing I'm kicking around is running some fairly tightly spaced screen (since I don't want them pushing through it) near the top of that same box to stop these vegging plants from getting too near the lamp and burning. This particular light is at a fixed height and not movable. Right now I'm topping and crushing and trying to FIM and bending daily to keep those mains bnaching outward, but the set up lets me veg the sheeot out of the plants (12 weeks or so from rooted clone) before they go to flower and so it's a struggle to actually be able to keep them down. Something like a PRE-SCROG? Ever head of this? Seems they'd come out with a good fill for the actual SCROG. My goal in this is to not have to veg at all in the flowering area and therefore run something close to a chain fed perrpetual harvest with the handpicked best plants from the excess number of them in veg. I'm thinking 8 or 10 pants under the 7 X 3 screen should be enough to let me lay down a full and tight pattern and still have some outer branches to push up and out stadium style.

Thoughts from any and all are appreciated.

Ah, I just caught it's plexi glass. That i know can be cut. Home improvemnts carry this stuff or do I have to go to a Ducks game and discreetly shove one under my jacket?

"Any drawbacks to pushing light through some fairly thick glass?"
Cleaning it
Could be taken to a window replacement shop and cut for you I am sure.
The design could be altered to allow the reservoir to be exterior. DWC can also circulate, keeping the reservoir outside of the heated area would more easily retain temp. Cooling water is also a fairly easy operation. Maybe someone has a read for you, my apologies I don’t, or just as easily you may be able to find some good material on the subject in the hydroponics section here at RIU.
If your not familiar with the web site Instructables.com it may be another good bet.

Something like a PRE-SCROG? Idividual unit scrogs allow for the vegging and training to be done where ever you place it. I have in the past, set up small scrogs that were started indoors vegg winter into spring, and flowered out.

Look forward to seeing what you come up with Jester!