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woodsmantoker

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There are several quite obvious benefits to horizontal trellising, but what is most often misunderstood is the gain from utilizing the plants responce. While the plant is in the virtical position, it is utilizing the physiological structure of the stem to support the weight much like standing a peice of 2"x4"x8' lumber vertically and then baring your weight on top. The structural design of a trees trunk creates a 2x4 that can bare weight most effectively from that vertical position. Taking that same peice of lumber and placing it horizontally, with a securing position at one end and your weight on the other, doesnt support you nearly as well and may break. To compare this to what is occurring in the cannabis plant during flowering, we focus on the processes that are occurring, when, and why. We can see that the plant changes its position not just toward the light (photoropism), but away from gravitational force (gravitropism). This is because the plants responce to relative position is based on direction of light or gravitational force. It recognizes its relative position and adjusts accordingly. In order to do this physiologically, what occurs is a distribution of auxin. Auxin acts like a plant hormone and stimulates a responce quickly. Within a short time, the plant will reposition itself to be "correctly positioned" to either catch light, or bare weight on the stems vertically. That said, to take advantage of this, we keep the plant in a relative horizontal position during vegetative growth. The responce is increased growth rate and bulking of structural bodies. During flower however, we utilize the plants stem structure in the vertical position, to bare the weight of developing flower as opposed to allowing the plant to continue to spend energy repositioning and bulking stalk/stem to support weight. So in closing, if the branch of a developing flower is not in a vertical position, the responce will be to increase the structure that supports it. If the flowers stem is vertical however, available nutrients are utilized by the plant to produce flower as apposed to structural stability.
During the plants set time frame of flowering, I want all of its energy being spent producing that which is what I am interested in harvesting. (I.e. I am focused on growing flowers during the photo period, not stems).

Be well and Scrog on, good people!
WMT~
 
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woodsmantoker

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Beautiful plant my friend, however, arguably not "scrog" methodology used. Trellising cannabis or Low stress Training cannabis is not the same as Scrog however they are techniques used to achieve Scrog. The acronym is a bit misleading possibly. Never the less, you are on target with producing healthy cannabis and thus I challenge you to a Scrog of proper measure!

~ WMT
 

zypheruk

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YouTube turned the meaning of a scrog into a basic plant support years ago. Everything a gardener has done for 100's of years is all a new idea in the world of the younger generation who will swear blind they created this method that method and then call it the gml show or something even more retarded.
 

growingforfun

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I used the basic scrog technique to achieve an advanced support system for a monster plant.
Yes this is a form of outdoor scrog.

The sun is powerful enough that a flat plane is not required as in indoor growing.


What you did uses all the elements of a scrog with the screen above, then you let it grow threw it and continue into a larger bush. Good work!


I've done a more regular scrog out doors where its placed in flower to make a flat 5x5 scrog, but I think your is better.
 

SK1/ABB

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Ok you know you dont have to be a prick about a simple question I mean what the hell man? No shit a 4x4 space isn’t big. Just never mind. Fucking assholes i swear. You all think you’re so high and mighty anf better than everybody and can be an asshole when someone asks a simple question. My apologies if the question wasn’t up to your superiority complex that you “professional “ growers have. My bad. Did realize you were better than everybody like subfool thinks he is. Assholes
 

Birdrussell

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Here goes an update of my scrog. I wanted to scrog again but instead opted for spreading the plant out with some jute.

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Lord Bonkey

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So ummmm just a quick question

We used to do big scrogs back in the day like 05~
Back then everyone used basically the same 6x6 squares trellis, but now I cant find anyone posting shit from a 6x6 square scrog :/

Does nobody uses 6 inch nets anymore?
is this just a natural thing where noobies just started using 3.5s and it became the standard?
Or it was just what was around?
Or is 3.5 considered better now for a good reason?
 

onegreenthumb

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So ummmm just a quick question

We used to do big scrogs back in the day like 05~
Back then everyone used basically the same 6x6 squares trellis, but now I cant find anyone posting shit from a 6x6 square scrog :/

Does nobody uses 6 inch nets anymore?
is this just a natural thing where noobies just started using 3.5s and it became the standard?
Or it was just what was around?
Or is 3.5 considered better now for a good reason?
Six in is way to large for my application and trellis netting is weak and flimsy....I use it on the top for a little extra support(photo directly above) fencing is rigid ...is it a natural thing that noobies started to doing that became standard, no people experimenting to find better ways... not being complacent ...is 3.5 better of course that is an opinion it is what works best for the user
 

Lord Bonkey

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Six in is way to large for my application and trellis netting is weak and flimsy....I use it on the top for a little extra support(photo directly above) fencing is rigid ...is it a natural thing that noobies started to doing that became standard, no people experimenting to find better ways... not being complacent ...is 3.5 better of course that is an opinion it is what works best for the user
I see,
people used to use 2x2 and 3x3 squares, and we all switched to 6x6 just because of the results were pretty clear so i was wondering if there was a specific reason everyone switched back to the smaller squares.

from what i have seen maybe its just due to smaller plants being grown?
 
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