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growingforfun said:

That looks pretty good for a first time scrog. Next time try to get the plant to fill the screen to about where your at right now before you flip it in my opinion.

I've been scrogging for years and I take a lot of time off from the forums so I never saw this tip until very recently, but wrapping the branches around the wires of the scrog is a really great thing to do. I highly recommend doing it on your next run.
I would also recommend the next size up for your container, a 20 liter or even a 30 liter.

How you like the mega crop?

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Thanks for the advice. I agree about flipping too soon but she is a rather tough old broad and after I got started I just wanted to get it done. I was reading about wrapping the branches and it sounds like a winner. Not sure I could redo it now but will look into it for my next SCROG.

Autopots have a bigger size but not compatible with the ones I have now. But I could always start two in separate autopots and work them both into the screen.

The Mega Crop is like manna from heaven. The easiest nutrients I have ever worked with. While one could just use the MC, I highly recommend their Sweet Candy and Bud Explosion to go along with it. In addition, their calmag if using coco or really intense lights. I have retired my Advanced Nutrients and Technaflora to the vegetable garden I like it so much. Works great in a reservoir as well.

Oh ya my advise to fill the scrog an wrap branches is for the next go around. Dont change anything on this one its looking good. You'll be really happy to have given scrog a shot, I predict you'll see increased yields and enjoy the much more uniform bud structure that makes trimming easier and increases bag appeal

growingforfun said:

Oh ya my advise to fill the scrog an wrap branches is for the next go around. Dont change anything on this one its looking good. You'll be really happy to have given scrog a shot, I predict you'll see increased yields and enjoy the much more uniform bud structure that makes trimming easier and increases bag appeal

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Sounds like a plan! I do love pretty buds, but strictly grow for fun and personal meds so my buds never see the inside of a bag. Although, they do look nice inside a 1/2 gallon mason jar. I do look forward to a sea of buds under those COBs. Well at least I hope, I even made a second screen just in case they need support. One can dream.

Thanks again for the kind words and advice, it is appreciated.

I did make one change. I managed to raise my entire setup by eight inches to make it easier to clean up under her skirts. The screen is self supporting now so I cut it loose from the poles and somehow got a stool under her tray. Let’s say I don’t want to do that again

And here she is the next day. Growing like crazy like nothing happened.

I’m doing more weaving with this one but she is much more flexible and growing outside. This was also a mother plant from Dr. Krippling’s Mind Can’Trol strain that was quite large when I started with her. I was going to let her mature in my greenhouse but she threatened to take over so I threw a smple trellis net with 3.5” holes over her and started weaving. She is in a five gallon fabric pot in a 3x3’ ebb n flow tray but using an Autopot autovalve to control the level in the tray. Same type system I’m using inside.

907guy said:

Current run, left side Blueberry ar 14 days and right side is Northern Lights at 35 days in 3’x3’ tents.

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Very nice, did you choose your strains because of ease of growing and yields or do you just really like the 2 of these? I am hoping to set up something similar to this in my own 2x4x5 tents. I have a few strains i really want to grow. I have grown outside before and was looking into easy to grow indoor strains and these are 2 that come up all the time. you look like you have a good selection of lights in there too. I was going to buy a couple p300's and use them. I actually did buy 1 already but now i am looking at the HLG 100's as well as some quantum board lights from Timber. i also like the watering setup you have... could you tell me a little bit about how you set that up?

wil2279 said:

Very nice, did you choose your strains because of ease of growing and yields or do you just really like the 2 of these? I am hoping to set up something similar to this in my own 2x4x5 tents. I have a few strains i really want to grow. I have grown outside before and was looking into easy to grow indoor strains and these are 2 that come up all the time. you look like you have a good selection of lights in there too. I was going to buy a couple p300's and use them. I actually did buy 1 already but now i am looking at the HLG 100's as well as some quantum board lights from Timber. i also like the watering setup you have... could you tell me a little bit about how you set that up?

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Thanks! If you have IG look me up (cannawizzard) on there for more pictures/videos (one showing stringing up the scrog and a clear view of how it is built).

If you do large single plant scrogs like these don’t waste time growing and flowering one out that you haven’t already tested and cloned, learned that lesson.

I typically grow from seed, pheno hunt and keep my own mothers but these two were both cuts from a local shop. I’ve grown out a few of thier clones before and knew they can be trusted for solid structure and nice dense colas plus I do love these strains from them so that is why i chose these two this time.

Each tent has 4x Horticulture Lighting Group 288 Quantum boards, one tent is in 3000k the other 4000k. I run them from 250-300w in flower depending on distance from canopy.

For feeding I run Megacrop from Green Leaf Nutrients. Top drip recirculating in rockwool grow cubes. There’s a tote and a pump below the drip tray in each tent.

This photo is from the 4th so they’ve put on a bunch more weight since this photo.

907guy said:

Thanks! If you have IG look me up (cannawizzard) on there for more pictures/videos (one showing stringing up the scrog and a clear view of how it is built).

If you do large single plant scrogs like these don’t waste time growing and flowering one out that you haven’t already tested and cloned, learned that lesson.

I typically grow from seed, pheno hunt and keep my own mothers but these two were both cuts from a local shop. I’ve grown out a few of thier clones before and knew they can be trusted for solid structure and nice dense colas plus I do love these strains from them so that is why i chose these two this time.

Each tent has 4x Horticulture Lighting Group 288 Quantum boards, one tent is in 3000k the other 4000k. I run them from 250-300w in flower depending on distance from canopy.

For feeding I run Megacrop from Green Leaf Nutrients. Top drip recirculating in rockwool grow cubes. There’s a tote and a pump below the drip tray in each tent.

This photo is from the 4th so they’ve put on a bunch more weight since this photo.

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Thanks... I'll check you out on Instagram. I don't have access to clones so I was planning on growing out some seeds I purchased and taking clones from the better plants. There will be a lot of firsts for me here... I've never grown indoors with leds, never really grown indoors, a couple autos don't count... I've never scrog'd before and never taken clones...

wil2279 said:

Thanks... I'll check you out on Instagram. I don't have access to clones so I was planning on growing out some seeds I purchased and taking clones from the better plants. There will be a lot of firsts for me here... I've never grown indoors with leds, never really grown indoors, a couple autos don't count... I've never scrog'd before and never taken clones...

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Dont let not having done it stress you out.
Scrogging is actually the easiest way to grow. Theres a tiny bit of upfront work to build the screen, but after that it's all just sitting back doing nothing. In the normal grow style people do very little the first part of flower, then they spend the second half of flower stacking up branches that are falling over (hopefully) then they spend a ton of time trimming small buds and a few big ones! Every time I scrog I get nearly 2x as much yield, and trim it in less time because the buds are all the same size and all keepable.

For cloning it's super super easy also. I have a pretty much 100% success rate just cutting off branches with scissors (old dirty bastards at that) and setting that in water, then arranging my solo cups with potting soil and pre-wetting them and making a small hole, then clipping the branch into small pieces and putting them in the potting soil. I do not use rooting gels or powders or any of that shit! Its worthless! Then I put a ziplock bag over the top of the cup. A week or 2 later roots out the bottom of the cup every damn time.

wil2279 said:

Thanks... I'll check you out on Instagram. I don't have access to clones so I was planning on growing out some seeds I purchased and taking clones from the better plants. There will be a lot of firsts for me here... I've never grown indoors with leds, never really grown indoors, a couple autos don't count... I've never scrog'd before and never taken clones...

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I use to clone with rockwool pods/humidity dome and had great success but slow success. (10-14 days for roots to start poking out of the pods).

I built a cloner out of a 5 gallon bucket, cheap, easy, and man does it work!

I had everything I needed laying around except the pucks and net pots that cost me $5 in total. I didnt even use spray nozzles, just drilled holes all over pvc attached to the pump.

The pump is submersable and sits in the bucket. I run it on 15 minutes/off 15 minutes to keep temps down. Temps hover in the low 80’s high 70’s. Plain tap water and no issues at all, roots in 5-7 days and tons of roots by day 10 and ready to pot.

No messing with humidity or even having to trim leaves and nodes, just chop it right off the plant and stick it in your neoprene puck.

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907guy said:

I use to clone with rockwool pods/humidity dome and had great success but slow success. (10-14 days for roots to start poking out of the pods).

I built a cloner out of a 5 gallon bucket, cheap, easy, and man does it work!

I had everything I needed laying around except the pucks and net pots that cost me $5 in total. I didnt even use spray nozzles, just drilled holes all over pvc attached to the pump.

The pump is submersable and sits in the bucket. I run it on 15 minutes/off 15 minutes to keep temps down. Temps hover in the low 80’s high 70’s. Plain tap water and no issues at all, roots in 5-7 days and tons of roots by day 10 and ready to pot.

No messing with humidity or even having to trim leaves and nodes, just chop it right off the plant and stick it in your neoprene puck.

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Just browsing through and seen your post. I have to agree here, I bought a 1 gallon cloner like your describing and haven't needed to mist or clip leaves either. Tomato cuttings are ready in 5-6 days in this thing, I love it. Haven't had the need to root any mj cuttings since I've had it. I plan on making one out of a 5 gallon bucket soon, what size pump are you running in the 5 gal?

macsnax said:

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Just browsing through and seen your post. I have to agree here, I bought a 1 gallon cloner like your describing and haven't needed to mist or clip leaves either. Tomato cuttings are ready in 5-6 days in this thing, I love it. Haven't had the need to root any mj cuttings since I've had it. I plan on making one out of a 5 gallon bucket soon, what size pump are you running in the 5 gal?

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250gph, it’s what I had laying around, lets just say you don’t want to make the mistake of having the lid off when the timer kicks in lol.

I also picked up the pucks in several colors so rather than label the cuts I just put each starin in it’s own color of neoprene puck.

I kept some extra in the bucket and ran them for 5 weeks and never had to change the water or anything, no issues.

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907guy said:

250gph, it’s what I had laying around, lets just say you don’t want to make the mistake of having the lid off when the timer kicks in lol.

I also picked up the pucks in several colors so rather than label the cuts I just put each starin in it’s own color of neoprene puck.

I kept some extra in the bucket and ran them for 5 weeks and never had to change the water or anything, no issues.

Updated photo of the double scrogs.

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I'm sure 250 gph gets her done!

907guy said:

For feeding I run Megacrop from Green Leaf Nutrients.

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MegaCrop is the bomb. I am absolutely loving this stuff. I’m using the Sweet Candy and Bud Explosion also and I’ve never had it easier. Mix up 10 gallons throw it in the reservoir and let it feed the babies. These pictures were taken this morning at day 28 since the flip.

907guy said:

250gph, it’s what I had laying around, lets just say you don’t want to make the mistake of having the lid off when the timer kicks in lol.

I also picked up the pucks in several colors so rather than label the cuts I just put each starin in it’s own color of neoprene puck.

I kept some extra in the bucket and ran them for 5 weeks and never had to change the water or anything, no issues.

Updated photo of the double scrogs.

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Just amazing!! I really want to try with one plant, same as you...
How big is your tent, how much yield do you usually get, how long veg from seed (is from clones faster?), when you flip?

I like it kool thx

KonopCh said:

Just amazing!! I really want to try with one plant, same as you...
How big is your tent, how much yield do you usually get, how long veg from seed (is from clones faster?), when you flip?

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Thanks!

They are 3’x3’ tents. It usually takes about 12 weeks to fill one out fully like that with all the tops. Yield varies extremely from strain to strain and pheno to pheno. Flip all depends on strain too, if it flowers fast I’ll fill the tent completely before flipping, if it flowers longer or stretches allot i’ll continue to weave them under the net up to 2 weeks into flower.

I don’t always run single plant scrogs or even scrogs. I only run them on plants I know will fully utilize the space. When I’m pheno hunting i’ll just have a bunch of random plants stuffed into the tents. Don’t waist 5+ months of your time on a plant that might not give you gobs of fore when it’s are done.

Any tips on pheno hunting... I have at least 6 different strains and at least 3-10 seed for each strain... And my lights are all led so I can't grow out big tall plants. I need plants I can scrog. But I also don't want to waste months growing weak plants

wil2279 said:

Any tips on pheno hunting... I have at least 6 different strains and at least 3-10 seed for each strain... And my lights are all led so I can't grow out big tall plants. I need plants I can scrog. But I also don't want to waste months growing weak plants

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Like it or not there’s no quick way to do it. That’s why people hold onto some cuts so strongly.

It all depends on what you are looking for too. If you are looking to hit all the points (hardiness, plant structure, bud structure, vigor, frost, smell, flavor, effects) then you can start tossing out plants pretty early as they grow.

I use to take everything to the end of flower, now I don’t even take everything to flower. A non stellar plant is not worth my time any more. I’ve wasted too much space and time on mediocre plants when I could have been popping more seeds to replace them early on. I also have a plant count I I have to stick to.

I prefer plants with a tighter node structure and stiffer/thicker branches. They tend to scrog the best. You don’t want anything that stretches a bunch and you want to try to finish with around 12” of canopy above the net give or take 2”.

My blueberry on the left ran a little wild on me, I should have turned my lights up earlier into flower so she stretched on me more than my previous run of her about a year and a half ago.

ok thanks. i guess ill just have to figure it out. should be fun though.

907guy said:

Like it or not there’s no quick way to do it. That’s why people hold onto some cuts so strongly.

It all depends on what you are looking for too. If you are looking to hit all the points (hardiness, plant structure, bud structure, vigor, frost, smell, flavor, effects) then you can start tossing out plants pretty early as they grow.

I use to take everything to the end of flower, now I don’t even take everything to flower. A non stellar plant is not worth my time any more. I’ve wasted too much space and time on mediocre plants when I could have been popping more seeds to replace them early on. I also have a plant count I I have to stick to.

I prefer plants with a tighter node structure and stiffer/thicker branches. They tend to scrog the best. You don’t want anything that stretches a bunch and you want to try to finish with around 12” of canopy above the net give or take 2”.

My blueberry on the left ran a little wild on me, I should have turned my lights up earlier into flower so she stretched on me more than my previous run of her about a year and a half ago.

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