Drooping leaves / sign of what

Wastei

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One plant still looks droopyish before night time. Sure it likes now everyday watering and is not drooping all the time.

Can we conclude from this, that the ec is too high in the medium at the end of the day? I m thinking to lower the dosage of a+b to 0.7ml/1Liter or some like that, while for others keep giving the usual 1ml or even raise up to ~1.3ml to see how they react?

Edit; or it could be moisture level being low/ not saturated enough...? Should i try water twice a day? Ill do the weight checking again today. Yesterday when i tried Johannas pot, i think it felt pretty light.
The problem is we don't know the strength of your source water so the dosage and strength means next to nothing except for yourself. You're shooting in the dark without any data.
 
Invest in Blumats. No more runoff and a medium constantly in the "Goldilock" zone. It's a little learning curve but once installed you only check pH and EC daily in the reservoir, no more hand watering and manual labour except at top off and res changes.

If you don't have patience to measure nutrient strength and dialing that in maybe you should go organic with slow released amendments instead?
I do not have money right now for ec meter, but i think ill have it after few weeks if "reading the plants" plan does not work.
But for now we have to go by feeling. It is not patience thing.

I made all the investments i thought i need, and i did not fully understand what i was getting into, when choosing airpots and coco. I now understand how much ec meter would help me, but i cant afford it atleast for two weeks. So please go easy on the ec thing. I would appreciate describing what too high/low ec symptoms generally are for now and how does it match to my situation.

Im learning as im doing. Does too high ec in the medium or runoffwater mean that i have to lower my nutrient dosage?
 
The problem is we don't know the strength of your source water so the dosage and strength means next to nothing except for yourself. You're shooting in the dark without any data.
Water is 3.4dH and the dude at previous page was guessing ec being 0.2-0.3 ec.
 
Invest in Blumats. No more runoff and a medium constantly in the "Goldilock" zone. It's a little learning curve but once installed you only check pH and EC daily in the reservoir, no more hand watering and manual labour except at top off and res changes.

If you don't have patience to measure nutrient strength and dialing that in maybe you should go organic with slow released amendments instead?
And thank you for the blumats advice, looks convenient. Maybe next grow. The run off clearing is getting tired. I was thinking getting some kind of 200ml big syringe or oil pump for ro water.
 

Little bird

Active Member
I have drooping leaves on my plants, which have been in bigger airpots for two weeks now. Medium is canna coco and nutrients cannas a+b. First i had too high ph (because friend told me its not necessary to check) and maybe bit over fertilization. I got that in check and the clawing and nutrient burns got away. I also moved to watering every two days from watering every day. Once they got in big pot i gave them 2.3ml/1L a+b, but after nutrient burns i have been giving them 0.5-1ml a+b / 1L. Especially yesterday it took some time runoff water to appear. By the end of the night there was more drooping to be seen. Now at morning they are drooping much more. Is it underwatering? Too high ph, yesterday solution which i gave was 6.5? Or still too much nutes?

I was thinking if i pour today 0.33ml a+b / 1L with ph some between 5.5-6 and get good amount of run off, much more than 10%. Kind of flushing if theres too much nutrient deposits. Is that good game plan?
If your run off was way to slow it’s because your overwatering because if your plants are dry the run off happens quickly if that makes sense . The best way is to lift your pots if they are heavy do not water in fact you can let them dry out until they just start to wilt. And if I were you I’d grow in Ocean Forest it takes out all of the guess work with buffering ✌
 

harrychilds

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Thank you all for your huge help, thinking with me. Plants are two weeks old in bigger pots, before that they were cuttings in rock wool.

Back to the case, we can say pretty sure it was underwatering (they did not like watering every two days, so did go back to everyday) and also underfeeding nutrients. Today all looked recovered some, change to better compared yesterday.

Today i watered 1ml a+b and rhizo 0.66ml / 1Liter as suggested above. That was good careful dosage i think. Also did the weight testing today and pots seemed to be lighter, some more, some less. Run off water did not appear right away, which is doot thing too i guess?

Except one plant i gave 1.3ml and rhizo 1ml / 1L solution. She has been the most forgiving for my learning, so i desided to test on her.

I would respectfully debate the perlite thing. I put it because of the green on the surface. And it seemed to help with hand watering a bit. I think there will be enough air, because isnt perlite breathable? And they are in coco and airpots, shouldnt there be plenty of air?

This photo is from today before watering.
They look a lot better, keep feeding until run off everyday.
 

harrychilds

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If your run off was way to slow it’s because your overwatering because if your plants are dry the run off happens quickly if that makes sense . The best way is to lift your pots if they are heavy do not water in fact you can let them dry out until they just start to wilt. And if I were you I’d grow in Ocean Forest it takes out all of the guess work with buffering ✌
You never let coco dry out.
 
Hello guys. This is a new problem i spotted. One leafs tip is curled up and changed its color. Now i know she has been very thirsty, and pot is almost empty in hour when i give her 1000ml of a+b 2.5ish ml/1L. So curling up might be due to dryness but what is the coloration sign of? Something too much and what exactly? Maybe 2.6ml of a+b is too much per liter ive gave yesterday?

Heres a feedchart i ve been guided by. So first i gave 2ml, then 2.5, then yesterday 2.6ml per liter. Time to go back 2.4ml or something? And no, i still have no ec meter.
 

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So i went down with the ab dosage to 2.2ml to that plant, and the problem went away. But still some plants have droopy leaves, but droopy leaves only comes at evening, and especially if i try to water only every other day. Does there happen some ph drift in the medium, when plant takes up nutrients?
 
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