~~~~Don't Drink your tap water~~~~

primeralives

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this is a marijuana growing fourm, not an america hating traitor forum...

ps..
do you belive anything you see on youtube?
 

doctorRobert

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yeah but this is in the toke and talk section so we are toking and talking about things we enjoy talking about so........ whatever:roll:
 

SocataSmoker

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Lay off Primera... fluoride poisoning is real. I don't see what's so difficult to believe when researching you come across such well respected folks such as Dr. Kennedy who was the past president of the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, who is very well reputed and he has this to say in 1998 before all of this blew up into your "Conspiracy Theory" spiel:

Dr. Kennedy Speaks out Against Fluoride
 
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primeralives

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The debate over the positives and negatives of the addition of fluoride to drinking water has raged on for quite some time. Surveys done by water companies across the United States have indicated an even split between opponents and supporters of the practice.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Pros[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Adding fluoride to public water supplies has been credited with being responsible for the decline in tooth decay within the United States since the mid-1980s. Affordable and convenient, it has been lauded as an important advancement in overall health and helps to protect against cavities.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The American Dental Association's official position on fluoride is that it is completely safe for humans (if controlled at below recommended levels)—a position shared by many other health organizations. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Fluoride addition is sometimes viewed especially important in low-income areas, where access to non-water sources of fluoride (such as toothpastes) is limited to residents.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Cons[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Although it is up to each individual water supplier as to whether to add fluoride, the Environmental Protection Agency has set a maximum level of 4 mg/L fluoride for human consumption. Consumption at higher levels over time has been proven to cause painful bone disease.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]However, even at this level, fluoride can cause dental fluorosis, or browning and pitting of the teeth, in young children. Thus far, it is only known to affect developing teeth before they come up through the gums. An estimated 10-15% of young people who receive the recommended dose of fluoride suffer from some degree of fluorosis. Children nine and under should not consume water with fluoride levels exceeding 2 mg/L.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]While credited for decreasing cavities among Americans, extensive studies have shown a surprising similarity in increased dental health in both communities with and without fluoridated water. It follows that the decrease in tooth decay may be better credited to an improvement in dental health care, earlier intervention, and the prevalence of fluoride in toothpastes and other mouth products, although further research is still necessary.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Risks Outweigh The Benefits[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Propaganda on both sides of the fluoridation debate has seriously clouded the ability to be objective as to the pros and cons of adding fluoride to public water supply. When scrutinized, the improvement in dental health over the last two decades is better attributed to improved diets and better (and earlier) dental care than to fluoridated water alone.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Fluoride does offer cavity-prevention—in limited quantities. However, water suppliers who follow the maximum EPA guidelines put young children and their developing teeth at risk for disease, as the maximum fluoride level is twice that of the recommended level for children.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Given the prevalence of fluoride in toothpaste, mouth rinses, and other dental products, combined with semi-annual fluoride treatments from a dentist, the addition of fluoride to public water supplies or in bottled water is an unnecessary endeavor that can, in fact, be detrimental to long-term dental and overall health.[/FONT]
 

SocataSmoker

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Risks Outweigh The Benefits[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Propaganda on both sides of the fluoridation debate has seriously clouded the ability to be objective as to the pros and cons of adding fluoride to public water supply. When scrutinized, the improvement in dental health over the last two decades is better attributed to improved diets and better (and earlier) dental care than to fluoridated water alone.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the addition of fluoride to public water supplies or in bottled water is an unnecessary endeavor that can, in fact, be detrimental to long-term dental and overall health.[/FONT]
I think that says it all... the risks OUTWEIGH the benefits. By the way, white teeth come from brushing like you should and taking care of your teeth, not from fluoridated water.
 

We TaRdED

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Pros[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Adding fluoride to public water supplies has been credited with being responsible for the decline in tooth decay within the United States since the mid-1980s. Affordable and convenient, it has been lauded as an important advancement in overall health and helps to protect against cavities.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The American Dental Association's official position on fluoride is that it is completely safe for humans (if controlled at below recommended levels)—a position shared by many other health organizations. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Fluoride addition is sometimes viewed especially important in low-income areas, where access to non-water sources of fluoride (such as toothpastes) is limited to residents.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Adding fluoride to public water supplies has been credited with being responsible for the decline in tooth decay within the United States since the mid-1980s."

Are these people infallible? Could the credit be due to better oral hygiene or better toothbrushes and toothpaste? I don't see how constantly swallowing fluoride improves our teeth. Let me get my fluoride from toothpaste. If I swallow MY toothpaste I will then call the poison control!:D

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Fluoride addition is sometimes viewed especially important in low-income areas, where access to non-water sources of fluoride (such as toothpastes) is limited to residents."

So because there are some people that are too poor to afford toothpaste with fluoride we dump the fluoride in the water for everyone? Thats bullshit! Why don't we save the money from putting fluoride into everyones water and give away toothpaste to the poor? ~lol~ That seems like the more logical thing to do in my opinion.
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We TaRdED

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im getting sick of your conspicary theroy bullshit, bring it to another fourm..

move out of the country if you have such a problem.

Go drink some more tap water!!! ~LOL~ I heard that fluoride is not good for peoples critical thinking.

Honestly, whats your problem? If you don't want to partake in this thread than by all means peace out dude. If you want to step up to the plate and debate and try and give people a better understanding of your point of view, than by all means, go ahead. With your quoted post ^^^^^ it just makes you look like an asshole that is offended but can't come up with an intelligent rebut. :mrgreen:

:peace:
 

We TaRdED

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I think that says it all... the risks OUTWEIGH the benefits. By the way, white teeth come from brushing like you should and taking care of your teeth, not from fluoridated water.
~LOL~ Right!! That was his own post too!! HAHAHA......

But I'm anti-american because I'm trying to shed some light to the stoner community... I don't get it.. Maybe I've swallowed too much fluoride too...:cry:


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storm22

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i think vaccine shots have mercury in there too... but yet we're not supposed to eat tuna because of its trace mercury content but its ok to inject it into our blood system... idk, i haven't studied it much..

active ingredients in my deodorant are

propylene glycol, water sodium sterate, fragrance, sodium chloride, stearly alcohol, fd&c blue no.1, fd&c yellow no.5...
aluminum is what makes antiperspirant deodorant
 

stoney08

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I think that says it all... the risks OUTWEIGH the benefits. By the way, white teeth come from brushing like you should and taking care of your teeth, not from fluoridated water.
This is true and interesting to find out. Always thought that... above shit.

It seems like this is a classic dichotamy, the rich & the poor. The rich get richer usually using there brain, they drink bottled water. The poor get poorer because they mess up there brain. Unfortunately in this case its not that the poor want to mess up their brain more, it just happens because all they drink is tap water. This is assume absolutes, which is never accurate in reality.

So, one will find that fluoride occurs naturally in some water sources and based on this its easier to add it to the ones that don't and reap some benefit then remove it from all of them and reap possible problems from the poor because one knows that the poor are usually vitamin deffiecient.

I don't know I'm trying to rationalize it some way... hahahah
 
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