Do Landrace strain effects produce less paranoia?

Rurumo

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Broadly speaking, I find the Thai and South Asian ganja strains to be more racy than the Colombians and Mexicans. But this is all for experienced smokers, as others have mentioned, tolerance AND experience/time will do away with 90% of the "paranoia" type feelings. Your friend probably just meant lower THC strains produce less paranoia, but I don't find that to be the case in true paranoia inducing strains like some of the South/SE Asian strains-which might just have 15% THC but have a psychedelic component that is missing from hybrids.
 

jimbonorman

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Broadly speaking, I find the Thai and South Asian ganja strains to be more racy than the Colombians and Mexicans. But this is all for experienced smokers, as others have mentioned, tolerance AND experience/time will do away with 90% of the "paranoia" type feelings. Your friend probably just meant lower THC strains produce less paranoia, but I don't find that to be the case in true paranoia inducing strains like some of the South/SE Asian strains-which might just have 15% THC but have a psychedelic component that is missing from hybrids.
I like Acapulco Gold, but obviously in moderation. I’m growing Malawi now, which is supposed to be a bit psychedelic, so I’ll see how it agrees with me when it’s ready. I’m a fan of psilocybin but I’ve never messed with LSD.

As others have said, the setting is important. I don’t particularly like to vape and socialize…especially with people who aren’t also stoned - that’s usually when I’m most prone to paranoia. But home alone at the end of the day (chef’s kiss)
 

Upstate2627

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I read a comment recently from someone on Growdiaries.com that claimed pure landrace strains don't induce paranoia as much as hybrids. He didn't back this up with any data, so I figured I'd ask the community. Do folks think there is any truth to this?
Grew 1 round of Thai in my life, paranoia weed to the max! Gave most away.
 

amneziaHaze

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I just grew Golden Tiger - Ace Seeds (African x Thai landrace I believe) and love it, but took me half a year to grow. She can be real trippy if you over indulge, but 2 bowls, I’m motivated, clear headed and alert. She gets trippy after 4+ bowls but I don’t get any paranoia from her.
acapulco is like that when i smoke 2 rice grains of hash. but 4-6 grains and i get nervous
 

tstick

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On a molecular level, THC is THC and it doesn't make any difference if it's THC from an Indica or THC from a Sativa. The differences come from the combination of terpenes and other cannabinoids, along with the THC. Those terpenes can vary among both Indices and Sativa, as well.

Back in the 70's, there really weren't that many "flavors" to choose from. Most of the weed was imported from Mexico. Lots of times, it tasted like hay because it was leaves, stems, stalks, seeds and wasn't grown with any kind of care. But sometimes, it was great. When it was great, it was really great. Sometimes we got that skunk that everyone dreams about. If that skunk terpene was still around and as strong as it used to be, then it would change the entire weed game, because everyone would want ONLY it. All the lemony shit would disappear.

If I could smoke the old skunk, Thai or the old blueberry, then I'd never need anything else. And I would get STONED! -regardless of THC levels.
 

tstick

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When people say that smoking a Sativa is a more "up" and "racy" kind of high, they should put a scope to the trichomes. In most cases, if the trichomes are clear, the plant was harvested too early (probably because Sativas take such a long time to flower and growers get impatient). Underripe trichomes won't get you as high as ripe trichomes. People smoke underripe weed and they don't get stoned, so they describe the high as more "up" and/or motivated. But, in reality, if they'd let the weed ripen properly, then they'd all get stoned. The old skunk, after all, was a landrace Sativa strain from Mexico. It would sit anyone's ass down on the couch!
 

skuba

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I have a high tolerance and I still get paranoid and worry about shit that isn’t even relevant at times. I also find that getting way too stoned and going in public is more paranoia inducing than being on lsd or mushrooms. I’d rather get pulled over high on acid than after taking too many dabs or something
 

Modern Selections

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When people say that smoking a Sativa is a more "up" and "racy" kind of high, they should put a scope to the trichomes. In most cases, if the trichomes are clear, the plant was harvested too early (probably because Sativas take such a long time to flower and growers get impatient). Underripe trichomes won't get you as high as ripe trichomes. People smoke underripe weed and they don't get stoned, so they describe the high as more "up" and/or motivated. But, in reality, if they'd let the weed ripen properly, then they'd all get stoned. The old skunk, after all, was a landrace Sativa strain from Mexico. It would sit anyone's ass down on the couch!
The "old skunk" had Affie in there and that's what was couch glueing you due to over-ripeness.

Ripeness is subjective. I prefer cannabis at the cloudy trich stage for most strains. C99 and Blueberry have effects I like when just starting to turn cloudy. Deep chuck I like 50% amber.

If you follow the "needs another two years" crowd I believe the effect will be past it's prime. Cannabis effects deteriorate when getting to a certain point of ripeness. I guess some people like it but I find a lack of potency when a plant has gone too long.

For example, the Cinderella line I work with has incredible effects day 50-53. Day 56 the effects turn muddy and less potent. This is not the norm for cannabis but for this strain it is the case. ECSD back in the day was perfect at 11 weeks, 12 weeks made it too lethargic, ruining the amazing floating euphoric effect. The 12 week stuff was just muddy and confusing, not at all desirable compared to the floating like in space effect of the 10-11 week.

Flavors are also at peak during certain harvest windows but that is another convo.

Strains are all different. It is best to begin sampling around week 8 to gauge the perfect harvest window for your tastes.
 

tstick

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The "old skunk" had Affie in there and that's what was couch glueing you due to over-ripeness.

Ripeness is subjective. I prefer cannabis at the cloudy trich stage for most strains. C99 and Blueberry have effects I like when just starting to turn cloudy. Deep chuck I like 50% amber.

If you follow the "needs another two years" crowd I believe the effect will be past it's prime. Cannabis effects deteriorate when getting to a certain point of ripeness. I guess some people like it but I find a lack of potency when a plant has gone too long.

For example, the Cinderella line I work with has incredible effects day 50-53. Day 56 the effects turn muddy and less potent. This is not the norm for cannabis but for this strain it is the case. ECSD back in the day was perfect at 11 weeks, 12 weeks made it too lethargic, ruining the amazing floating euphoric effect. The 12 week stuff was just muddy and confusing, not at all desirable compared to the floating like in space effect of the 10-11 week.

Flavors are also at peak during certain harvest windows but that is another convo.

Strains are all different. It is best to begin sampling around week 8 to gauge the perfect harvest window for your tastes.
In the mid-1970s, what we called "skunk" (and it was the skunk) definitely came from Mexico. Let's just say I happened to be very close to someone who drove U-Haul trucks and took lots of trips... Afghan had nothing to do with it. The only way that could have happened is if someone, in Mexico, was growing Afghan strains in Mexico. I also knew people who regrew some of those old Mexican strains and the house always smelled like a skunk even when the plants weren't flowering. The frickin' leaves smelled like skunk. I knew it well.

All I can say is that most of the very best (and very worst) marijuana in the 1970s was coming from Mexico because it travelled along the roads. OCCASIONALLY, a veteran would return from Vietnam with a remnant or two of some Thai weed. That was a rare treat for blue moon occasions only. I had a friend who was in the Peace Corps in 1975 and had an ingenious way of exporting Thai sticks for awhile.....but I digress.

I'm not saying there weren't Afghan strains that also smelled skunky, but the strain we knew as "skunk", "the skunk" or "skunk weed" in the upper midwest of the 1970s, came from Mexico.

As far as ripeness is subjective. That's for sure. But, I guarantee you, when the skunk was around, no one was growing it or harvesting it with any kind of attention to detail. No one was checking it every few days or weeks to make sure it was in the just-right harvest window. As I recall, entire plants were ripped out of the ground and bailed up in plastic trash bags and tape -roots, rocks and all. It was very much random back then. But some of the plants just had the thing in them, regardless of how they were grown.

Inevitably, all the "advancements" that growers made back then, was to select for plants that didn't stink or have any flavor. We still suffer the consequence of that to this day.
 

conor c

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When people say that smoking a Sativa is a more "up" and "racy" kind of high, they should put a scope to the trichomes. In most cases, if the trichomes are clear, the plant was harvested too early (probably because Sativas take such a long time to flower and growers get impatient). Underripe trichomes won't get you as high as ripe trichomes. People smoke underripe weed and they don't get stoned, so they describe the high as more "up" and/or motivated. But, in reality, if they'd let the weed ripen properly, then they'd all get stoned. The old skunk, after all, was a landrace Sativa strain from Mexico. It would sit anyone's ass down on the couch!
Well where did mexicos potent weed come from then as all cannabis in the Americas was took there by man so it had to have came from somewhere ive heard many theories but we probably never gonna know for sure and as for skunk i dont buy straight mexi myself a hybrid of it definitely but pure idk it didnt look like a straight sativa imo any idea what part of mexico you think this skunks from then? Mexi affie is more likely imo
 

tstick

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Well where did mexicos potent weed come from then as all cannabis in the Americas was took there by man so it had to have came from somewhere ive heard many theories but we probably never gonna know for sure and as for skunk i dont buy straight mexi myself a hybrid of it definitely but pure idk it didnt look like a straight sativa imo any idea what part of mexico you think this skunks from then? Mexi affie is more likely imo
I can't say. But, my inclination is that there were landrace strains in Mexico that smelled like skunk and sometimes we randomly got a bail or two of it. It just wasn't that complex back then. We didn't even differentiate between smoking leaves or buds, man. It was always full of seeds and there was an entire ritual to card out the seeds and grind up the weed between your fingers -literally everything incorrect by today's standards. And it still always sat us down.
IF any of that old school weed were to be grown under the meticulous standards of today, there would be a different standard of what we call terpenes, now. In the meantime, we get gorgeous-looking/growing plants that produce donkey dick colas full of sparkling trichomes -all worthy of a page on a weed-calendar....But no comparative smell or flavor. We get lemon...berry...eucalyptus....lavendar....pine...And all of that came out of people growing strains that did NOT smell like skunk.
The skunk strains were thrown out because they were dead giveaways for the law. If someone was growing it, you could smell it down the road. That's how skunky the skunk used to be. It was literally like when you're driving down the interstate at night and you start to smell that smell of a road kill skunk (the animal) hanging in the air. You could be doing 80 MPH and it will come into your car and it will be miles before the smell dissipates. That's what the real skunk weed smelled like. That's why we needed patchouli oil!
It was a far cry from seeing someone unscrew a jar lid of Blue Dream and have to stick their entire mug into the jar to detect the fragrance. Anyone who wasn't alive and using marijuana back then, can argue the point now.
 
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higher self

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For me personally paranoia is all in the mind & ones settings not the substance, the same as doing shooms. Been smoking on my Destroyer (Mexico/Colombia) x Meao Thai) #1 pheno & its bomb! No paranoia just an enetergetic high that's clear headed. Gets me baked like a hybrid in the evening & turns into good video game / couch weed. I didn't scope the trichs but I did let the plant flower at least 4 months, Im not sure I didn't count. Smoked some Zamaldelica as well & it's good too but kind of a stupifing what was I just doing kinda high.
 
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