DIY Topicals, Lotions, Creams. Salves

Discussion in 'Medicating' started by Sour Wreck, Nov 30, 2017.

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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    Is anyone doing this? Found an article on Leafly that describes the process pretty well. can pick up everything i need, except the medicine, on amazon.

    i think after my next harvest, i might give it a try.

    Would love to hear your experiences, recipes and success stories.

    thanks
     
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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    here is the recipe for the salve and then more additions to turn it into a cream

    https://www.leafly.com/news/strains-products/how-to-make-diy-cannabis-topicals

     
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    Sour Wreck

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    and since something like bengay, tiger balm or icyhot have that warming, soothing feeling, i want to add the ingredients to the DIY cream.

    the following oils are needed for this:
    • Peppermint oil: natural painkiller (analgesic); muscle relaxant; cooling properties; stimulates blood circulation
    • Eucalyptus oil: natural analgesic; anti-inflammatory; vasodilator (opens blood veins to improve circulation)
    • Clove oil: natural anti-inflammatory agent; stimulates blood circulation
    • Ginger oil: natural anti-inflammatory agent; analgesic
    • Black Pepper oil: warming, stimulating, improves circulation

    And hell, i was stoned off my ass when i created this thread. the recipe only calls for 7-10 grams of cannabis, i am pretty sure i can handle that before another harvest, LOL :bigjoint:

    so far the ingredients total up to $75 on amazon and that sounds outrageous, but the amounts are large enough that i can make this many, many times times.
     
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    Sour Wreck

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    After reading up even more on homemade warming rubs it might be better to go with the following for the warming agent rather than black pepper oil which did not get good reviews

    Camphor oil
    menthol oil
    Wintergreen oil
    Cayenne Pepper


    i am going to read a bit more and come up with a unique THC/CBD infused muscle warming recipe.


    I've got OCD when I start researching something, soon after i am making it or building it, lol...
     
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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    ok, there is a butt load of research i can do on essential oils, which i will do, but with some very quick research i have the prototype recipe. :bigjoint:

    Salve Ingredients

    • 7-10 grams of ground, dried cannabis
    • 1 ½ cups of coconut oil
    • 1/3 cup olive oil
    • 1/3 cup beeswax
    • 1 baking sheet
    • 1 saucepan (or double boiler)
    • 1 jar
    • 1 cheesecloth
    • 50 drops Peppermint oil
    • 50 drops Eucalyptus oil
    • 20 drops Camphor oil
    • 20 drops Menthol oil
    • 2 T Cayenne Pepper
    • 20 drops Copaiba oil
    • 20 drops Juniper Berry oil

    Ingredients for thinning to lotion


    • 1 cup Aloe Vera gel
    • 100 drops Almond oil
    • 2 T Shea Butter or Cocoa Butter


    we obviously all understand the benefits of decarb'd cannabis

    THC(pain relief)
    CBD(anti-inflammatory)

    the many oils and pepper in this will also play roles

    Peppermint oil - natural painkiller (analgesic); muscle relaxant; cooling properties; stimulates blood circulation
    Eucalyptus oil - natural analgesic; anti-inflammatory; vasodilator (opens blood veins to improve circulation)
    Camphor oil - natural solution for pain relief, anti-inflammatory; fights infection, and boosts skin health, warming properties
    Menthol oil - natural antiseptic,pain relief, anti-inflammatory, cooling then warming properties
    Copaiba oil - natural pain relief, warming properties
    Juniper Berry oil - natural warmth and muscle soothing
    Almond oil - skin health and used for thinning in this recipe
    Cayenne Pepper - natural solution for pain relief, fights infection, and boosts skin health, warming properties



    just gotta pull the trigger at amazon and all ingredients will on the way. i already have the weed, cayenne pepper, coconut oil and olive oil :blsmoke:
     
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    cindysid

    cindysid Well-Known Member

    I have everything but the Bees Wax and essential oils. I will definitely be watching your progress, and trying it out for myself!
     
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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    need to place my order and get started. will take a picture of everything when i get it.
     
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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    well i have ordered what i need to create the salve. more progress sometime this weekend.
     
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    Anothermeduser

    Anothermeduser Well-Known Member

    Interested in this as well, good luck
     
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    Sour Wreck

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    well today i made the salve. i learned a lot of things not to do, lol.

    i did this in my garage and that was mistake number 1. this should be done in a climate controlled area. the reason is simple, once the bees wax is added and removed from the heat it starts to solidify. the race is on at that point.

    next mistake, filtering through coffee filter without first filtering through a stainless mesh strainer first. the websites i read did not suggest this, but i would like to suggest it. the result here with just the coffee filter was too slow on the filtering before wax started to solidify. i learned it was better to filter the big stuff out through the strainer first.

    i also started filtering into jars that were in pans of a inch or two of water, almost boiling to keep things warm enough to filter. when filtering straight on to a jar sitting on the cabinet, the salve was solidifying in the jar and the coffee filter.

    also, use rubber bands to hold your coffee filters in place.

    long story short, i lost at least 6 ounces worth of salve through the mess and learning. because of losing almost half, i reduced the oils to half before putting into little 2 ounce jars.

    so far, i will be honest, i am not that impressed with the warming properties of this mix. for one thing, the 2 tablespoons of cayenne pepper really did not do much from what i could tell. at the point of making it where it was only coconut oil, cayenne pepper and olive oil, i rubbed some on my skin, no warming at all. so i will leave the cayenne pepper out next time i make it, which will change the color from the reddish color to something more white or light green.

    it does smell pretty nice. you can smell a little weed :bigjoint:, and the camphor and mentol oils pretty well. the peppermint and eucalyptus are noticeable slightly, but don't notice the other oils in the aroma that much.

    recipe needs a little more tweaking and i need some a sore muscles or joint pain to see how the THC/CBD's affect it. usually happens later at night i will try it and see if it loosens things up. i used about 10 grams of Sour D, decarb'd at 225 for 30 mins.

    while the weed was decarbing, i filled a pan with an inch of water and put a 2 cup measuring cup in it, like a double boiler. i put 1 cup of Coconut oil (recipe called for 1.5 cups, but i didn't have it), 1/3 cup of oilve oil and 2 T of cayenne pepper in measuing cup and heated it, stirring every 5 mins or so.

    i added the decarb'd weed and continued the double boiler cooking for another 25 mins.

    next i added 1/3 cup of bees wax and fully melted it in. next time i will filter out the weed before adding the bees wax.

    at this point, take my word, you need another pan with an inch of water and 2 jars. one needs a coffee filter and rubber band. quickly take your 2 cup measuring cup out of the pan and pour the mixture through a mesh strainer into jar #1. dump contents of strainer and pour jar #1 into jar#2 through coffee filter.

    that is the cleanest and quickest way to do it. i made a mess, having to reheat, re-pour, etc...

    any way, once coffee filter is mostly drained, i pulled the coffee filter and poured the contents back into my measuring cup (for its ability to pour cleanly), after i had cleaned the measuring cup and returned it to the double boiler. it is at this point i added all my oils, mixed well and poured into little containers.

    i really don't see the need to thin this anymore unless it gets really hard. the consistency is fine for applying topically.

    here are a few pics. oops, and i just touched the corner of my eye with a finger i had just cleaned up a jar with and there are some warming properties :bigjoint: probably the mentol and campor.

    cooking.jpg filter.jpg finished.jpg
     
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    Wunderwi

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    I've made basically the same. What I found works best. Make the coconut oil first. Then add water. Put in fridge. All the crap will sink in the water. Oil sits on top.
     
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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    cool, might just give that a try. sounds logical.
     
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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    ok, so i have tennis elbow in both arms and recently discovered swelling and pain in my knuckles. rheumatoid arthritis runs in the family, so i am self diagnosing.

    typically the tennis elbow usually only bothers me at night trying to sleep. the arthritis is come and go. i did start to feel the arthritis a little last night and went ahead and applied the salve to my left hand and left elbow and shoulder. i had no pain in that arm. but i also had very little pain in the right arm, so i don't know if it was just a good night or if the salve helped.

    i do believe the swelling was reduced and the joints felt much less stiff.

    will keep up with my trials, but first reaction is this is not something shockingly warm like ICYHOT, but more slightly warming, soothing and slower reacting, but longer lasting.
     
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    Sour Wreck

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    raggyb

    raggyb Active Member

    super cool. thanks for the recipe and all the info. so can we use this and since it doesn't go in blood it would not effect a drug test?
     
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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    thanks and i just googled "cannabis topicals drug test" and it seems that is correct.

    since it doesn't enter the bloodstream you should be good. works with the nervous system only.
     
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    raggyb

    raggyb Active Member

    thanks again
     
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    Wunderwi

    Wunderwi Active Member

    Yes it can affect a drug test. I use the same strength oil I use for edibles.
     
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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    please elaborate, you have personal experience.

    we aren't talking about patches here
     
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    Wunderwi

    Wunderwi Active Member

    My apologies. I didn't read the quantities. I use 1zip per cup of oil.
     

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