DillWeed's 2009 summer grow journal: Two Lbs. or Bust! (2x1000 watt HPS in grow tent)

scubadude239

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Are those MH's or floros hanging vertical? Also do you plan on topping or tieing or letting them go as is? Kids looking good!
 

DillWeed

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Hey man, i've been watching your grow and I like what I see. You have some great strains growing there. I'm growing some of the same gh strains and would like to invite you to check out my grow. Im using 2 600w hps and get great results with easy control of temps, humidity, and no problems with circuits blowing. Have your plants presexed? I would recommend waiting till you see those female calyx develop on every plant before inducing 12/12. My white rhino was 2ft tall before it presexed. Too soon can cause problems like hermies.
Thanks for stopping in, friend. Give us all a link to your grow so we can check it out. I always love to see people growing the same strains as I am. And no, my plants have not shown any preflowers as of yet, but I am hoping they do very soon. It took about five weeks during my last grow for that to happen. We'll wait and see how this one goes though. :weed:
 

DillWeed

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been awhile Dill..but lookin good...ur teenagers are getting bushy.. Nice vent system...very innovative, how they say...cutting edge ...Peace
Always nice to see you stopping in too, bro. I know my vent system is far from "professional" but results are all that matter, my friend! :joint:
 

DillWeed

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Are those MH's or floros hanging vertical? Also do you plan on topping or tieing or letting them go as is? Kids looking good!
Thanks for stopping by, friend! Those are two 400 watt MH lights hanging vertically and a 1000 watt HPS hanging horizontally. I don't like growing with CFLs. It's just not for me, I like to grow giant monster colas like the ones in my last grow:

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/181334-big-bang-white-widow-grow.html

I don't plan on topping, fimming or tying my plants down, I like to let them grow naturally. I will be taking out the two 400 watt MH lights and adding a second 1000 watt HPS light when I start flowering in a week or so. I like to do it as big as I can! :weed:
 

bigjesse1922

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Just to make sure I understand....

Is the rubbermaid container a sort of heat storage? I am really high off some finger hash ( I just trimmed 11 lollies), so make me understand.

Please.
 

DMC65

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Hey Dill. Mind if a sit in on this one too? I'm trying to learn as much as i can within the next few months. This year will be my last outdoor grow so I'm gearing up for the move indoors. So far your post has given me the most useful info and i plan to use a similar setup in my 5x7 closet. ++ rep from me to you!

Just so I'm clear on your temp modification.......you basically got the hot air to exhaust out side the growing room as opposed to just going outside the tent. And the trash can is just a convenient place for the charcoal filter?

A question on the HPS: will you use an enhanced spectrum HPS with some blue when the MH are gone?

Keep up the good work!!
 

bongholio

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i was gonna +rep Dill but same thing happened to me so i +repped u instead for +repping Dill :D
LOL

Well I +repped you for +repping me for +plus repping dill for trying to +rep me.

;-)

thats hilarious

and dill them seedlings are lookin beautiful,so healthy your gunna end up with 3 pound or somethin is my guess.are you gunna buy more seeds for your next crop or are you gunna clone these babies? keep up the good work.
 

DillWeed

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Just to make sure I understand....

Is the rubbermaid container a sort of heat storage? I am really high off some finger hash ( I just trimmed 11 lollies), so make me understand.

Please.
The Rubbermiad trash can contains the carbon filter, bro. I forgot to take pictures before I had it sealed up. My bad!
 

DillWeed

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Hey Dill. Mind if a sit in on this one too? I'm trying to learn as much as i can within the next few months. This year will be my last outdoor grow so I'm gearing up for the move indoors. So far your post has given me the most useful info and i plan to use a similar setup in my 5x7 closet. ++ rep from me to you!

Just so I'm clear on your temp modification.......you basically got the hot air to exhaust out side the growing room as opposed to just going outside the tent. And the trash can is just a convenient place for the charcoal filter?

A question on the HPS: will you use an enhanced spectrum HPS with some blue when the MH are gone?

Keep up the good work!!
Thanks for stopping in, friend! +Rep right back at you as well. The more the merrier. You are exactly right about how I have the trash can set up. When the hot air was just blowing outside of the tent it was staying inside of the room it was in and keeping the temperatures way up. Now that it is being blown completely out of that room things are back to normal.

And yes, both of my 1000 watt HPS lights (one SunMaster and one Hortilux) both have some added blue spectrum in them. Should be interesting to say the least! :weed:
 

DillWeed

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thats hilarious

and dill them seedlings are lookin beautiful,so healthy your gunna end up with 3 pound or somethin is my guess.are you gunna buy more seeds for your next crop or are you gunna clone these babies? keep up the good work.
I definitely plan on taking some cuttings this time because I am going to trim off the bottom branches for flowering.

When is the ideal time to cut clones? Just before flowering or just after I start 12/12? I'm just curious because I have never done it before. :confused:
 

Grow'N'Smoke

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I usually take my clones shortly after I put them into 12/12, after they begin preflowering. That way I can put them into flowering as soon as I need to.

-Grow'N'Smoke
 

DMC65

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Right on Dillweed-thanks for the reply. I love how your plants look during veg. I assume they wouldn't look quite as robust if you had used HPS instead of MH for this phase? Do you think a switchable ballast would perform as well as dedicated ballast? I noticed you have totally seperate gear for your MH an HPS lights.
This grow will be very inspirational when/if you get your 2+. How much would adding co2 increase the yeid?
I'll be watching. Peace.
 

DillWeed

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Right on Dillweed-thanks for the reply. I love how your plants look during veg. I assume they wouldn't look quite as robust if you had used HPS instead of MH for this phase? Do you think a switchable ballast would perform as well as dedicated ballast? I noticed you have totally seperate gear for your MH an HPS lights.
This grow will be very inspirational when/if you get your 2+. How much would adding co2 increase the yeid?
I'll be watching. Peace.
I actually do have a switchable 1000 watt ballast that I am going to use for my next grow. I posted some pics of it on around the third or fourth day of the grow. I will probably eliminate the two 400 watt MH lights in favor of one 1000 watt MH light next time for vegging.

I'm sure CO2 would increase my yield by about 15% or more, but I have no idea how to use it. I have talked to a few people about it for the flowering stage of this grow, but we'll have to wait and see if they come through for me.
 

DillWeed

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Hey dill, Ive been sittin back and watching this madness since the beginning of june, and wow, these babies are looking great! even the 6 incher :D

I know your gonna catch 20 females and push that 2lbs my friend, im subscribed, and hanging on for the long hall, +REP brother :D
Thanks! +Rep right back at you. Great to have you on board. I hope you're right about the 2 lbs. but not about the 20 females because I don't have the space, haha! :weed:
 

bigjesse1922

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My two cents on clones:

Do you plan to use the pruning as clones? That's what I assume.

If not, wait 3 weeks if you ask me.

I think I am right though. If you are just pruning then 1 week prior to flower should be fine.

Consider this: nitrogen actually inhibits root growth in clones. So, time your pruning till you are scheduled to give them pure water and run a little extra through then normal. Take the clones the next day...set the plants on the outside of the grow space so they sort of make a border if that makes sense.

The point is to get them out of the direct light. Maybe kill the 1k that day.

When you take your clone, give yourself as much stem as possible, I.e. make your cut close to the plant. Then, come back and make your 45degree angle cut. /

I even slice upward from the bottom most point of the root until it is level with the stem. Does that make sense? Just hold the stem so the point of the cut is facing away. Cut from the hollow center back down toward the point of the stem.

Its called root scaritation or something. It exposes additional surface area and encourages rooting. Then, dip it in the root hormone and stick it in the medium.

Some people would call me crazy for doin all this, but I have had 100% success with this method.
 

DillWeed

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Day 35:
July 6, 2009

Today is exactly five weeks from the day I germinated the seeds and just look at our young adults all grown up now. The tallest plant (TrainWreck) is now roughly 15.5 inches tall and the shortest plant (Great White Shark) is roughly 9.5 inches tall. They are merely days away from flowering. I fed them a 150% strength dose of vegging nutes after I took these pictures and if they respond to them they way I think they will, I will remove the two 400 watt MH lights, add my other 1000 watt HPS light and set the timers to 12/12 on Saturday, July 11th (exactly 40 days since germination) so the real fun can begin! Pictures attached below as always...
 

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Highhunter

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Day 35:
July 6, 2009

Today is exactly five weeks from the day I germinated the seeds and just look at our young adults all grown up now. The tallest plant (TrainWreck) is now roughly 15.5 inches tall and the shortest plant (Great White Shark) is roughly 9.5 inches tall. There are merely days away from flowering. I fed them a 150% strength dose of vegging nutes after I took these pictures and if they respond to them they way I think they will, I will remove the two 400 watt MH lights, add my other 1000 watt HPS light and set the timers to 12/12 on Saturday, July 11th (exactly 40 days since germination) so the real fun can begin! Pictures attached below as always...
Very nice grow buddy! Hope its worth the weight:mrgreen: You may want to consider doing a stadium or vert set up in the future. Rock on :joint:
 

buckd316

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are you going to lollipop them? and i was wondering how often do you water them? i had the same trouble with fox farm at the start, the water would just run str8 to the bottom. they way your heading you should hit 2.5lbs easy very nice setup.
 
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