I have heard that basically all the LR2 hybrids produce some quality smoke. I know the pictures look pretty good. I'm actually growing 2 different auto-flowerers right now, the Deisel Ryder and also Lowlife's Auto AK-47 x Auto Hindu Kush, which I am pretty excited about. It sounds like a good cross to me, anyway. It's fuckin' sweet that you are smokin' on some now. I wish I had some to sample
! Does it have a nice, fruity taste? That is what Deisel is known for, it supposedly has the flavor of ripe red grapefruits. Does the Deisel Ryder you have carry that trait?
What I guess I'm trying to figure out is how much these strains differ from the original non-auto strain used in the cross. I figured FrostytheSnowThug might be able to enlighten us all since he actually bred his own cross. His insight on this issue is basically as good as any breeder of auto-flowerers, but without the whole marketing and selling aspect, I'll probably get more truthful answers from him than from anyone who markets and sells their seeds as a product. Of course they say "It's exactly the same except for the auto trait," I'm wondering how close you can get to the original and still retain the auto trait and short stature. Is it possible to basically 'reproduce' the regular parent as an auto? This would be after several generations of inbreeding/backcrossing, of course. Just wondering what I am gonna end up with. I'm not worried, I have other regular plants too, but I am having fun so far with my little autos. They are still very young (less than 2 weeks since germination started) It is pretty much an experiment. I'm trying it because it looked good, sounded fun, and I really have nothing to lose because my G13 Haze (started a little while ago) will be ready at about the same time as the auto ones
Heya...
I've grown DR and Dieselryder does have the grapefruity/diesel smell and tastes quite citrusy.
Diselryder is also a good quality smoke, altho there are different phenos, that are more LR2 dominant which are less citrus tasting, and have a faint grapefruit smell...The more Deisel Dom plants smell 80% like the original NYCD they used for the cross.
It is possible to get VERY close to the original strain, but it takes many crossing/back crossing sessions.
I had to initailly pollinate my diesel with LR2 Pollen,wait for the seeds, germ them all, and pick the strongest, shortest plants.
I then Inbred those males and females.
Then repollinated the diesel with pollen from the resulting ECSDLR2 seeds.
Once again rebred the best plants, then back to pollinating the diesel with the resulting pollen..etc
Anyhoo, i have crossed back and forth 10+ times now, and theyre very similar in appearance to the reg ECSD, just shorter, and now with 100%auto traits.
You will sometimes get the odd freak plant grow, that will be alot taller than the rest, but thats just natures way.
My ECSDLR2 are now more ECSD than LR2, but happily retain the short characteristics and auto of the LR.
The smoke is great, very pungent during veg and flowering, and fingers X'd thus far i have had a very good fem to male ratio...around 70% girls.
The next stage is to cross my NL#1 with LR2 then eventually cross the NLLR2 with the ECSDLR2 but thats a way of yet.
Dieselryder seeds will vary in phenos, out of 10 seeds you could get 2 very diesel like plants, 4 60%+ diesel dom and 4 that lean more towards the LR2 pheno.
But either way you end up witgh some nice quality smoke.
Just easy on the nutes, give lashings of molasses.
Just remember, as you said, breeders will always tell you what you wanna hear...Altho their auto strains will carry traits/smells etc from whatever theyve been crossed with, you will most probably have a variation in characteristics of the plants that you grow..
I tend to wait til the trichs are 60+% amber and 40% cloudy, and it'll put you on the couch for a good while.
If you chop when you have Mostly cloudy trichs it'll be a great head and body high, thats up there with alot of other strains.
Dieselryder is not that good and powerfull smoke like it's sister
LOWRYDER#2!!! &it takes 2weeks extra (10week 18/6
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