Diagnose this leaf issue, wrinkly and a bit of tacoing?!

Smokenpassout

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Just curious what this girl is slightly suffering from? She looks nice and green. noticed this in the past couple days. She’s been on a light nutrient dose of under 1/4 strength and about 30 days old. She’s a little strtetchy so I brought her height down a bit by taking off her base. Could it be the light intensity stress? She is small only 5 nodes, so I have the LED 24” over her at the 40% suggested.
 

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Good question.

And wind speed-fans blowing on the plant might be causing the leaves to curl.
Could be wind, I have my lower oscillating fan set to 3 of 10 and giving the plants indirect movement for 18 hours a day along with light. I could kick it down to super gentle at 1 or 2 .
 
Looks like heat stress. I had heard that the new aci leds had hot spots. Can't remember where I read that, so don't fact check me. Maybe check the leaf temperature to see where you are at... or just let her roll, she looks fine.
 
No , Id call this one the runt of the group. Different strain than the other three which are 3X the size in 30 days. others are nice and short and bushy. This one is healthy yet tall and lanky.
If this is the only plant doing it then make sure something in the environment isn’t directly hitting it (fan, humidifier fog..)

Other than that I wouldn’t worry about it and bet it grows out of it. Nice and green
 
Looks like heat stress. I had heard that the new aci leds had hot spots. Can't remember where I read that, so don't fact check me. Maybe check the leaf temperature to see where you are at... or just let her roll, she looks fine.

"hot spot" as in temperature?

I've written about the "hot spot" in terms of the PPFD map but LED's generate so little heat that I'd be surprised that anyone even measures temperature.
 
The led light is an AC Infinity Evo 4. Full Spectrum led, 3X3 space.
The plant it the picture isn't suffering from too much light. Overall, your plants are getting about 400µmol which is right in the middle of the "legacy light levels" of 300, 300-600, and 600+ for seedling, veg, and flower.

That's an estimate of PPFD because I can't find a PPFD map for that light at 24" hang height. 24" is very high for an LED grow light. I've had trouble finding hang height recommendations for AC Infinity light so I resorted to chatGPT to search. The graphics below are what it retrieved.


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This is the PPFD map from the AC Infnity site:

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In a word, these recommendations are bullshit.

Putting 1350*0.4=540µmol on a seedling is a good way to ensure that it never gets to the vegetative state, even if you're running CO2. The other recommendations 80% at 18" for veg (1080µmol) and 100% at 18" in flower (1350) would be on the high end for CO2. I have no idea why AC Infinity would recommend this much light and I am very aggressive in terms of ramping up PPFD.

What's interesting about the plant in question is the lack of nodes/the huge internodal space. It looks like it's just now sprouting the fourth node which is about 7-10 days later than I would have expected (my knowledge about soil growing is limited because I grow in hydro).

Per the posting by @Syntax747 and my reply, the EVO 4 has a "hot spot" in the center. That's something to take into account over the course of the grow but I'm wondering if the "problem plant", whom I dub "Stretch", was perhaps shunted off to the side and just not getting a lot of light. Could that be the issue?

Stretch has great color and really well formed leaves so unless she's been treated in a significantly different manner than her tent mates, I'd see it as an issue of genetics.
 
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