Dealing with Politics and Family

Unclebaldrick said:

Lol, I was listening to a Mavis Staples interview yesterday and she was asked if Prince was really strange. She replied, "Oh, he was really strange".

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There’s a newish documentary on him that will shed a lot of light into what made him what he was. Let’s just say his Mom and Dad sucked big time as parents. When Prince was about 11, his mom thought he showed feminine tendencies so started giving him porn magazines to look at, and she was very promiscuous. No wonder 90% of his music was sexual in nature.

Unclebaldrick said:

I am not sure that chemtrails are even in the realm of politics though they tend to be related. Kind of like flat-earth or anti-vax.

I remember having a conversation with somebody here who insisted that planes didn't make contrails when they were a kid. I posted some pictures of US bombers on the way to Germany with huge persistent contrails and suddenly the argument was we must have been using chemical weapons on Germany.

The primary thing isn't the politics, its that acceptance of rubbish knowledge that often becomes political or is manipulated by others into becoming so.

Technology (internet, ubiquitous cameras, etc.) is killing off the old ways and undoing the Age of Reason with unintelligent or over-religious people. I am strongly starting to suspect it will not be going away and yet cannot exist in a single successful country to the extent it does.

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I think its more of a building block to 'don't trust the government' mindset for some folks, like if they are willing to do that then we can't trust them on anything.

I think how it started with my dad was him wondering why his watering buckets kept getting orange goo in it, a couple conversations and internet searches later and he is 'learning' how it is the chemicals planes dumping. I tried to explain that it was likely algae and the shear number of people it would take to make a chemical to dump, truck it to airports, fill the planes with, and pilots/crew willingness to dump it without going to the news is less than likely. And that the planes are really just using massive amounts of jet fuel and the extremely hot exhaust is causing the water(and other junk floating up there) vapor to make the trails.

What I don't understand is how someone who can believe that a government is dumping chemicals into the sky to alter the planet with poison can't bring themselves to believe humanity collectively dumping and burning everything we can get our hands on, will have an effect on global climate and weather.

*Edit - worded that last part wrong with a double negative kind of thing. I think it makes sense now.

Unclebaldrick said:

I am not sure that chemtrails are even in the realm of politics though they tend to be related. Kind of like flat-earth or anti-vax.

I remember having a conversation with somebody here who insisted that planes didn't make contrails when they were a kid. I posted some pictures of US bombers on the way to Germany with huge persistent contrails and suddenly the argument was we must have been using chemical weapons on Germany.

The primary thing isn't the politics, its that acceptance of rubbish knowledge that often becomes political or is manipulated by others into becoming so.

Technology (internet, ubiquitous cameras, etc.) is killing off the old ways and undoing the Age of Reason with unintelligent or over-religious people. I am strongly starting to suspect it will not be going away and yet cannot exist in a single successful country to the extent it does.

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It shows that people don’t have a basic understanding of the science of our atmosphere. The average jet engine combustion chamber burns at around 2000 degrees. Vapor trails are usually seen in the stratosphere where temperatures start at 60 degrees below zero. Temps go a little higher as you go up in the stratosphere but it’s still below zero. Super hot exhaust and super freezing temps, = vapor trail (frozen vapor). Thats why low flying jets in the troposphere have no white vapor trail (frozen vapor) but you will see regular black exhaust.

Unclebaldrick said:

Nah. The first was a Mulligan. I was young and my father was dying slowly and her's just unexpectedly died suddenly around the same time. So we got married . I knew on the honeymoon (which was spent partially in the eye of a class 5 hurricane) that I needed a divorce and got one soon after. I liked the second one but she had some serious problems that I would not just ignore. In a bout of relationship brinksmanship, she gave me an out. We had no kids - I took it.

Now I have a child and a wonderful wife and will not be marrying again.

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Someday I'll tell you how my first marriage ended. I've been told I should write a book about it. Presently on my 2nd and have no plans to ever have a 3rd.

Rob Roy said:

Yes, they could be, but they could also be fervent nationalists, without the racist aspect being a main feature.

Thanks for your fascinating input though. I guess we're pretty much buddies now, huh?

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So there are neo Nazis who aren’t racists now ( in your world) just as there are 12 year olds who can consent and rednecks who can refuse to serve black people because they have a right to be racist.
Sicko

Obepawn said:

It shows that people don’t have a basic understanding of the science of our atmosphere. The average jet engine combustion chamber burns at around 2000 degrees. Vapor trails are usually seen in the stratosphere where temperatures start at 60 degrees below zero. Temps go a little higher as you go up in the stratosphere but it’s still below zero. Super hot exhaust and super freezing temps, = vapor trail (frozen vapor). Thats why low flying jets in the troposphere have no white vapor trail (frozen vapor) but you will see regular black exhaust.

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Then hows come sprayin’ vinegar gets rid of em?

Unclebaldrick said:

Older people are going to fall for this shit so easily. "I know you say that Obama was not a Muslim, but I saw a video of the man making a secret speech where he admitted he was and called for a holy war against white people."

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So my brother did actually bring this up a while back, I tried to find it but couldn't, around the same time I was told to get my news from OAN by him.

At the time I looked at that site and it had no articles on Papadopolus or Carter Page, and the only one about Butina was one showing her in oranges in a Pic that the article had her lawyers saying she was being mistreated in prison. I was kind of scared to clink many more links on that site. Did a quick search, looks like the guy who started that one did so right after Trump entered the race in 2015. Privately owned and of course his 3rd wife is Russian, and who knows what that means, but seriously why are there always these links to Russians.

zeddd said:

Then hows come sprayin’ vinegar gets rid of em?

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Ok, who’s spraying vinegar in the stratosphere? Wow

hanimmal said:

So my brother did actually bring this up a while back, I tried to find it but couldn't, around the same time I was told to get my news from OAN by him.

At the time I looked at that site and it had no articles on Papadopolus or Carter Page, and the only one about Butina was one showing her in oranges in a Pic that the article had her lawyers saying she was being mistreated in prison. I was kind of scared to clink many more links on that site. Did a quick search, looks like the guy who started that one did so right after Trump entered the race in 2015. Privately owned and of course his 3rd wife is Russian, and who knows what that means, but seriously why are there always these links to Russians.

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Because they have been manipulating and/or manipulated for longer than we have and much more intensively. Certainly we have been manipulated to a certain extent but not like they have. Putin and his people saw the opportunity quickly and we offered little defense to it.

Years ago, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan said "you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.". Well, you are now allowed your own facts too and probably always will be. Reason and truth will be the domain of the educated and intelligent again. Those who lack the former will twist in the wind of whatever thought guides they have chosen.

Obepawn said:

Ok, who’s spraying vinegar in the stratosphere? Wow

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I just use a spray bottle from the shed.
A couple of sprays and poof, it's gone, of course it takes a couple of minuets to reach the chem trails. Works every time.

Edit: I should of watched the video. Here I thought I was being original.

Unclebaldrick said:

Hey @hanimmal, suggest to them that they do a youtube search on some of their favorite topics followed by the word "debunked".

The news yesterday was full of a story about a Facebook video that shows how to test your food for artificial ingredients. It is complete and utter horseshit claiming that "big business" is putting plastic in your rice. Yet it has been seen 93 million times. 93,000,000!

So they believe in chemtrails? Dare them to watch some videos after searching for "chemtrails debunked"

I am just posting this one because I like it so much. It shows the type of people involved in believing this shit.

Here's another. I love these people. "We never used to notice these ground level rainbows before." "This cannot be natural." "What the hell is going on?"

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Grandpapy said:

I just use a spray bottle from the shed.
A couple of sprays and poof, it's gone, of course it takes a couple of minuets to reach the chem trails. Works every time.

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Bwahaha! Exactly!

If you turn the spray bottle around and spray yourself in the eyes they disappear much faster.

The original post about chem trails disappearing with vinegar is why Trump said he loves the poorly educated. Like he said, they’re the smartest people in the world.

Obepawn said:

The original post about chem trails disappearing with vinegar is why Trump said he loves the poorly educated. Like he said, they’re the smartest people in the world.

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Unfortunately they seem the majority in the US, chemtrail antidotes aside, trump is the poster boy for stupid

zeddd said:

So there are neo Nazis who aren’t racists now ( in your world) just as there are 12 year olds who can consent and rednecks who can refuse to serve black people because they have a right to be racist.
Sicko

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You seem to know a lot about Nazis, so I'll bow to your experience there and concede most Nazis are likely racists. I don't care for political Nazis or racists.

Are you saying that in places where 12 year olds could legally consent, that they're doing it wrong and is your view based on racism ?

I think black people should be able to refuse to serve anybody they don't want to associate with, because forcing a person to serve another against their will is wrong. What do you think about that ?

Rob Roy said:

in places where 12 year olds could legally consent

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You are a pedophile

Rob Roy said:

You seem to know a lot about Nazis, so I'll bow to your experience there and concede most Nazis are likely racists. I don't care for political Nazis or racists.

Are you saying that in places where 12 year olds could legally consent, that they're doing it wrong and is your view based on racism ?

I think black people should be able to refuse to serve anybody they don't want to associate with, because forcing a person to serve another against their will is wrong. What do you think about that ?

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Sick bastard

zeddd said:

Sick bastard

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It would be easier to respond to your post if you elucidated which part of my quoted post you don't like and why.

Are you afraid to commit to a position or do you think an insult is an argument ? Perplexed but not nonplussed.

Rob Roy said:

It would be easier to respond to your post if you elucidated which part of my quoted post you don't like and why.

Are you afraid to commit to a position or do you think an insult is an argument ? Perplexed but not nonplussed.

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We all agree that pedophilia is horrible and that you are a pedophile

UncleBuck said:

We all agree that pedophilia is horrible and that you are a pedophile

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I wish you had all agreed that I could fly. Always wanted to be able to do that.

Would you mind taking another vote ?