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The weed world is a bit shook atm though. Western states it’s really the Wild West. I am glad I stayed here. East I knew was the best route esp with the vast number of people east compared to west vs growers. I’m from Minnesota though, so if at all possible I’d love to go home and grow there for sale, preferably from my own shop. Or net biz like a weed bay. My ph was off awhile back. Meters just suck today. And I bought a new isfet too, which is top of the line. But I figured it out. Microbes saved the day. But I noticed lately my soil mix was way too hot. So now I got it figured out to where I’m like 3 per light again. That should help lol. If you have problems in soil a good repot was always helpful. I’ve tried to keep my cost effectiveness very good so I try to keep my pot sizes down. More soil equals more $. Hydro is an option but I won’t smoke salt grown weed. So why would I sell it? But anyways my electric is so high that I have to produce and then sell it. It’s quite the little trap they got me in. But I make lemonade from them lemons. So I just backed my soil back with some fox farms. Bumped my pot size up. And longer veg times longer to stay in my numbers. I do have to mono crop a lot though. But it’s not my thing. I’d rather grow greenhouse or outdoor. I did just buy a closed loop extraction system so I can have some options with my setup here. I’m pounding flower. But now I’ll run live resin and shatter and maybe some other ways. I have a press and washer and bags and tumbler. Stackable dry sifting screens. This closed loop stuff though is quite dangerous so I should prob try dry ice and then pressing vs the closed loop and test it. I never had a dewaxing column at my disposal to use. That’s my issue is the plant fats and lipids. Rosin is waxy high temp. Low temp low pressure it’s clean. Solvent extraction is meh imo. I grew veganic to blast “natural butane” on it. Seems self defeating imo lol.
 
macsnax

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Dankonomics_genetics said:
The weed world is a bit shook atm though. Western states it’s really the Wild West. I am glad I stayed here. East I knew was the best route esp with the vast number of people east compared to west vs growers. I’m from Minnesota though, so if at all possible I’d love to go home and grow there for sale, preferably from my own shop. Or net biz like a weed bay. My ph was off awhile back. Meters just suck today. And I bought a new isfet too, which is top of the line. But I figured it out. Microbes saved the day. But I noticed lately my soil mix was way too hot. So now I got it figured out to where I’m like 3 per light again. That should help lol. If you have problems in soil a good repot was always helpful. I’ve tried to keep my cost effectiveness very good so I try to keep my pot sizes down. More soil equals more $. Hydro is an option but I won’t smoke salt grown weed. So why would I sell it? But anyways my electric is so high that I have to produce and then sell it. It’s quite the little trap they got me in. But I make lemonade from them lemons. So I just backed my soil back with some fox farms. Bumped my pot size up. And longer veg times longer to stay in my numbers. I do have to mono crop a lot though. But it’s not my thing. I’d rather grow greenhouse or outdoor. I did just buy a closed loop extraction system so I can have some options with my setup here. I’m pounding flower. But now I’ll run live resin and shatter and maybe some other ways. I have a press and washer and bags and tumbler. Stackable dry sifting screens. This closed loop stuff though is quite dangerous so I should prob try dry ice and then pressing vs the closed loop and test it. I never had a dewaxing column at my disposal to use. That’s my issue is the plant fats and lipids. Rosin is waxy high temp. Low temp low pressure it’s clean. Solvent extraction is meh imo. I grew veganic to blast “natural butane” on it. Seems self defeating imo lol.
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The industry is pretty jacked up if you ask me. There's so much crap out there. I've got an idea for a dispensary it here in Co that will set a new standard and actually put good buds in people's hands. Probably be another year before I have the money to pull it off. It's time for a change for sure.
 
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macsnax said:
The industry is pretty jacked up if you ask me. There's so much crap out there. I've got an idea for a dispensary it here in Co that will set a new standard and actually put good buds in people's hands. Probably be another year before I have the money to pull it off. It's time for a change for sure.
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I know. It kills the rest of us. Every year I get pay cut after paycut for my experience. I don’t see that lasting.
 
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macsnax said:
Yup, bunch of hype with a false bottom.
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I knew long ago it was a hype game. I had stuff that blows the doors off a lot of today’s best. But Cali always took the stage. Once I grew these weak ass growing strains typically I was kinda let down. Then I got grape stompered as I called it. So then I just dropped the hype stuff altogether and now I try stuff here and there. But clones especially im like whatever unless it’s that unique or exotic I have to try it. But that false bottom is for sure real too. Never have I seen so many false bottoms in my years.
 
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I agree. The new strains of the month are terrible. Usually poorly bred. Very leafy buds and a lot of frost but no complexity to the high. Or no high at all. Just a blasted tired feeling that doesn’t last too long.

I like old school pot. I have more tolerance than most I meet and my “lower thc” bud gets me high every time.

Thanks to breeders that kept making seeds from classic pollen. All the flavors everyone says are rare or don’t exist show up all the time in my garden. Even cat piss and skunk.

I just germinated another shantibaba critical mass seed that shanti feminized from his own garden and gifted to my breeder friend who gifted some to me. :-). The first plant had wonderful classic sweet skunk flavor with a full high and buzz with a nice red eyed giggly experience.

And I got some euro bred white widow and critical that are sold in bulk to stores and breeders over there that blow away the stuff being raved about as best.

It’s all hype!
 
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MichiganMedGrower said:
Here is a nice hybrid made from old Magus Genetics Warlock and a cubed Sensei Seeds mix of 90’s Jack Herrer, Hash Plant, Power Plant and Afghan.

Tastes and smells like coffee. Hits like a Mexican sativa.

Gave me 7 oz. of dense big buds in a #3 nursery pot of potting soil too.

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Looks like big bud almost. Warlock was a powerful old one. Has some afghan too look. I love the old stuff too. I remember seeing all the hype about sour diesel and chemdog stuff even. I was at the shows too since I’m Midwest deer creek was easy enough, Chicago too only a few bits away. I was expecting more hammer but it’s very nice. The chem d was nice, the chem 4, I haven’t tried the sis but I have Tre sis still from like ‘12 and a few others, candy chem, 91 skunk va. That’s prob the best or the d. The bigworm 91 chem is up there. We still haven’t figured it out. The aj sour d from him is spot on tropical diesel fuely. I know there’s a few breeders who have her. The jb 91 bodhi I believe told me was a worked pheno, nspecta said the chem 1-4 were fairly similar. Never had 1-3 but hybrids I have too of them. But from everyone I’ve seen or tried. Nevil and his old stuff just rips the shit out this stuff even. I say this because some stuff seemed more potent imo. Like when I take oil now. And I’m sure my tolerance changed but, silver Pearl was still one of the most potent imo. All time. Vietnamese Trippy sativa stuff too, but I’m good on those long flowering ones when I can barely afford my electric and bills with shorter ones. Too bad the forever flowering cannabis plants weren’t fake. Lol. 75k a seed prob this week deals. I try to collect everything older I can. But I can’t sell everything because the game is rapidly changing. Basically everything any breeder puts for sale can and will be patented and sold here at some point. I kept my collection in tact though and have it safely stored off elsewhere. Fgens and my bought collection too. Because my feelings too is you sell this, it’s yours free to do as you please too. Ibls and such I can see being upset about. Heirlooms maybe too. But I don’t sell those. Just hybrids. I give them away but I’m sometimes selective with them. I gave mr ndn guy a shit load of purp dawg f2s. I’m working the line myself. But soon Monsanto and other big pharmaceutical companies will want these genetics and they already have said genetics too. I just want to hold down stuff they don’t. Nor will ever. Because I know ppl too. I just don’t want to see it all come down to regulations and taxes. And shitty pharma tech growing and some form. Anything they do they destroy. So I’m like a keeper of keys to the past and present. Jaws esp has a vast library of stuff. Say a name and he’s like got it. Some form. There’s a bunch of old guys from the east and west coasts too who have library’s of old stuff. Bob Hemphill has the library of library’s of clones esp. there’s clones in England too that are top notch anywhere and mainland Europe lol. So their out there. In good hands mostly. But I breed to have better gear. Soon I’ll have zero clones hopefully of others, just my finds. All seed form then. It would make my life much easier. I had my own but over the years and busts they disappeared or were stolen. I do have quite a bit though now saved back I didn’t lose. But I do feel like 25 years ago my collection though smaller would kill most today’s stuff. I’d trade in a heartbeat to get them back. Oils esp they would prob really work with cancer and anxiety too. Instead of being dabbed out, you would prob be out potent. It takes years to get collections back but it’s worth anyone’s time to do the same. Even if your a smaller numbered grower. That’s how I got started. I grew more seeds then I could afford so, I bred my own. Sadly enough bag seed finds were some of the best I had over breeders in the 90s even and 2000s. I think some stuff has gotten better but, pure Afghanistan stock, or early hybrids always have the best pop and growth. Herms can be more problematic in those old landrace stock
 
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MichiganMedGrower said:
She went 12.5 weeks. I had trouble keeping up with her honestly. She kept going potassium crazy but couldn’t take much more. So a lot of back n forth in feeding/watering.

She reminds me why I don’t try to clone old genetics. But it is sure fun to grow the old seeds.
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I try to do the same. Only easy to grow potent stuff. Cept the ghost I keep her lol. Yields always. Cuts off cuts go well awhile. Until you trade lol. I’m finally like fungus gnat free even. I feel blessed there to be happy trails. Grow the ghost outside though. She’s super happy. These old big bud or skunks and hybrids can be late outside and mold easily outdoor. Blue dream sure can. So I go by that too. I used to grow hydro. I should prob find someone who is full hydro to test. Beautiful work though, that was some old school type for sure. Really like haze, but huge. How long did it flower? 12.5 is like ssh times
 
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I realize though I’m screwed on the end game with marijuana corporations now. So at least I’m preparing for them and problems down the road. I encourage everyone to breed though. It’s good for you, it’s good for me. It’s good for the plants. But read a book or two, and then start practicing things. But once you run seeds, run a bunch. Don’t mess around. There is a chance in any seed almost, for the next elite elite new new. But only a few really know male selection. Lucky is a factor too. So don’t be scared. Time and luck and good genes is key. Share seeds.
 
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MichiganMedGrower said:
I agree. The new strains of the month are terrible. Usually poorly bred. Very leafy buds and a lot of frost but no complexity to the high. Or no high at all. Just a blasted tired feeling that doesn’t last too long.

I like old school pot. I have more tolerance than most I meet and my “lower thc” bud gets me high every time.

Thanks to breeders that kept making seeds from classic pollen. All the flavors everyone says are rare or don’t exist show up all the time in my garden. Even cat piss and skunk.

I just germinated another shantibaba critical mass seed that shanti feminized from his own garden and gifted to my breeder friend who gifted some to me. :-). The first plant had wonderful classic sweet skunk flavor with a full high and buzz with a nice red eyed giggly experience.

And I got some euro bred white widow and critical that are sold in bulk to stores and breeders over there that blow away the stuff being raved about as best.

It’s all hype!
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MichiganMedGrower said:
Here is a nice hybrid made from old Magus Genetics Warlock and a cubed Sensei Seeds mix of 90’s Jack Herrer, Hash Plant, Power Plant and Afghan.

Tastes and smells like coffee. Hits like a Mexican sativa.

Gave me 7 oz. of dense big buds in a #3 nursery pot of potting soil too.

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Very nice. Sound like an interesting smoke.
 
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Anothermeduser said:
Hey, thanks for all the info in here, really appreciate it and rarly find much worth reading on riu these days. To many kids think a few crops makes them a expert, speaking to stroke their ego. Thanks for straight forward real info bud.
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Thank you. I remember being younger too. It’s a learning curve.
 
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