Damn Global Warming....

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Antidisestablishmentarian said:
Yes, growing relative to last year(last year was the worst ever). By about 60%.

What is your point? No one is saying climate change isn't happening, in fact it has been getting warmer for a long time now. Longer than the amount of records we have, and before the industrial revolution.
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I ask in the name of science.....easy.
 
We have discussed this, at least, 4 times in DETAIL, in the last 2 years.

What i said then is what I say now.
 
Funny how science has become partisan. There is a clear division between the left and right in regards to climate change. The right says it's ok to keep driving that suv alone and the left says carpool.

Just another reason why the rest of the world hates us.
 
You haven't heard of cook et all?

And no. I don't have to provide you with anything. You changed the rules. So with you, you can do your own homework.

Or you could click the link I posted earlier by 97% believers and read the numbers yourself.
 
abandonconflict said:
Funny how science has become partisan. There is a clear division between the left and right in regards to climate change. The right says it's ok to keep driving that suv alone and the left says carpool.

Just another reason why the rest of the world hates us.
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It's left me wondering if progressives claim science........they should. Republos got Jesus and closeted politicians.
 
For all of the folks (science deniers) who think that climate change at the rate we have escalated it to is "normal" I would say 2 things. First please buy yourself a home on the beach but when the ocean rises a few inches and your home is swept away by the 2nd or 3rd "500 year storm" in a decade don't expect to be bailed out, literally or figuratively. Next go up to Canada and buy up large tracts of dead forestland and replant the Lodgepole Pine that has been decimated by the Mountain Pine Beetle. You see what happens in the insect world is that minor fluctuations in temperature can create a whole additional generation of insects per year. If the norm is for an insect to have two generations of offspring then there is a natural balance between predation and survival that you see in a healthy forest where often only damaged, weak, and diseased trees are attacked. With an additional generation the balance is tipped and predators can't kill enough to keep the population in check and it explodes eating otherwise healthy trees. Dead forests not only don't create oxygen but release additional CO2 fueling the problem, in biology it's called a feedback loop.

But most of you aren't really worried about that because you are too lazy to walk or bike to the store, too busy to recycle and too shortsighted and selfish to protect the environment (or anything else) for future generations much like our revered ancestors who did very little either. That and by the time your silly arguments based on Fox Facts are proved wrong by time, you will be dead and gone.

And as you may have guessed I was involved in climate change research with the Forest Service for many years and what we humans are doing by releasing sequestered carbon (fossil fuels) into the atmosphere is pushing a gently fluctuating systems to oscillate wildly hence the rash of major weather events we have been experiencing and will continue to experience
 
CaretakerDad said:
For all of the folks (science deniers) who think that climate change at the rate we have escalated it to is "normal" I would say 2 things. First please buy yourself a home on the beach but when the ocean rises a few inches and your home is swept away by the 2nd or 3rd "500 year storm" in a decade don't expect to be bailed out, literally or figuratively. Next go up to Canada and buy up large tracts of dead forestland and replant the Lodgepole Pine that has been decimated by the Mountain Pine Beetle. You see what happens in the insect world is that minor fluctuations in temperature can create a whole additional generation of insects per year. If the norm is for an insect to have two generations of offspring then there is a natural balance between predation and survival that you see in a healthy forest where often only damaged, weak, and diseased trees are attacked. With an additional generation the balance is tipped and predators can't kill enough to keep the population in check and it explodes eating otherwise healthy trees. Dead forests not only don't create oxygen but release additional CO2 fueling the problem, in biology it's called a feedback loop.

But most of you aren't really worried about that because you are too lazy to walk or bike to the store, too busy to recycle and too shortsighted and selfish to protect the environment (or anything else) for future generations much like our revered ancestors who did very little either. That and by the time your silly arguments based on Fox Facts are proved wrong by time, you will be dead and gone.

And as you may have guessed I was involved in climate change research with the Forest Service for many years and what we humans are doing by releasing sequestered carbon (fossil fuels) into the atmosphere is pushing a gently fluctuating systems to oscillate wildly hence the rash of major weather events we have been experiencing and will continue to experience
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i don't watch Fox News. If I do watch a cable news program, it's cnn.

Btw, I believe in climate change. I don't buy 97% of all scientists. I believe 97% of scientists who stated a position is accurate as well as 66% either find agw inconclusive or don't believe it at all.
 
Antidisestablishmentarian said:
i don't watch Fox News. If I do watch a cable news program, it's cnn.

Btw, I believe in climate change. I don't buy 97% of all scientists. I believe 97% of scientists who stated a position is accurate as well as 66% either find agw inconclusive or don't believe it at all.
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why don't you believe 97% of scientists? What am I missing?
 
Because if I gave you 12000 papers from 12000 scientists, and only 4000 agreed with me while the other 8000 either don't agree or say inconclusive, would you say that's 97% of all scientists?

Because thats exactly what cook et all did.

Again, I believe in climate change. You'd have to be a fool not to. We've been hot, we've been frozen. That's what happens on earth.

I just do not buy the 97% of all scientists agree that agw is real. Because 66% say inconclusive or no. If you want to say that 97% of scientist who took a position believe that way I would agree. It's the details.
 
burgertime2010 said:
why don't you believe 97% of scientists? What am I missing?
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Because, don't you see, it is not 97% and never was. And it was just a survey within the UN cadres of "scientists."

These are the political droids with Agenda for $$$.

Don't be duped by jingoism.
 
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