DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow
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Thundercat
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Sounds real good gambler. Thats sweet they jumped off like that. I'm glad to say mine have done the same thing in the last 24 hours. They seem to really be happy with the nutes, and have been finally growing the way I want. Tomorrow they will be going into my tent under all 1400w of light I have.
crzywhboy6669
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very nice setup gambler. how much did it cost you for the whole setup? how long till first harvest?
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ha, ha. no sweet love making over here. I do wish them well and try to encourage them to be all they can beJeez. gambler, you don't fuck around. I'm amazed you say you can water your plants in ten minutes. I water ten plants in about an hour, of course I play music and make sweet love to em.
but ya, i either count to 5 or 7 or 10 seconds for each plant while watering with the wand / pump from the rez. depending on if its a light or heavy watering... 10 sec. is about 1/4 of a gallon. (though the buckets can actually hold twice this much water)
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you can do a lot with 1400 watts... i had a 1000w HPS and a 400w MH on a sun circle (circular) light mover back in the day and grew 36 'monsters' in a 7' by 7' area... about an oz. a plant - soil grow.
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first harvest is about 60 days away. just went to 12/12. I'm looking into a 73 day turnover... i'd like to see 5 harvests a year rather than 4... and get my clone picks down such that i can yield 6 lbs. per crop rather than 5. i've got some tweaking ahead of me.
as far as cost goes... the equipment list is pretty specific... but the rule of thumb seems to be that the first harvest generally pays the equipment costs twice over. as long as you aren't investing in LED's or some other high tech high price contraption. I've saved money when possible by making purchases online and shopping around. I'm also not afraid to 'buy generic' as far as fans and light systems, etc. As long as it's new equipment. the bare bones of the system i am running would be a bit over 2k... but i'm sure i have well over 4k into it once you start adding up all the little stuff.
to be honest bro, this isn't a long term investment for me. I'm hoping to 'hit it and quit it'. Maybe run for like one year and then put the profit into a legal business enterprise. Fingers way way crossed. I'd rather just be smokin' some shite i bought from someone else and only have to worry about going on probation if busted with some personal amount... but times are hard, brotha.
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Thundercat
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I was thinking yesterday itwould be sweet to get a circular lightmover, but its not gonna happen right now. So I'll just have to move them around so they all get both kinds of light. I think they are gonna turn into some really nice bushs over the next month.
if they're in the same tent you probably won't even have to move them. plants sure do like MH during veg. growth.... i missing have some in the flower room.
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allright, so this Dirty South heatwave has caught me by surprise... and i am now scrambling to remedy the situation. My rooms are "winter-ized" but deffinitely not "summer-ized", so i'ma have to add a couple of portable a.c. units to the equipment list.
- 13,000 BTU portable a.c. unit (flower room)
- 8,000 BTU portable a.c. unit (clone room)
- 8" inline fan from Home Depot "500 cfm" (w/no obstructions)
for the ceiling in the clone room
right now my clones are toughing it out through some 85-88 degree crapola. hopefully they'll do alright through one more day... then the weather is suppose to cool down again... and hopefully at least one of these portable a.c. units will arrive before the damn sun decides to come on full force in the future. (The flower room is also at 85 degrees, but that doesn't bother me near as much right now.)
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- 13,000 BTU portable a.c. unit (flower room)
- 8,000 BTU portable a.c. unit (clone room)
- 8" inline fan from Home Depot "500 cfm" (w/no obstructions)
for the ceiling in the clone room
right now my clones are toughing it out through some 85-88 degree crapola. hopefully they'll do alright through one more day... then the weather is suppose to cool down again... and hopefully at least one of these portable a.c. units will arrive before the damn sun decides to come on full force in the future. (The flower room is also at 85 degrees, but that doesn't bother me near as much right now.)
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I hear that! I'm on a 2-3 year plan myself, sometimes you have to get creative when starting a new business
Ug. One of the four ballasts just took a dump on me. And these are the AgroStar ballasts after being 'upgraded' from the GrowBright(s). Prolly woulda been better off not upgraded. Oh well, HTG stands by their lighting equipment for a full 2 years. So they've got replacement parts coming for me... and i've also ordered a back up ballast. If the replacement parts don't work then i'll have to send it in to get it fixed.
It could've happened at a worse time (like further into flowering) but i'ma have to alternate one of the lights off each day until i'm back up to four lights. All the areas will probably miss at least one day of light... and unless i slip on another banana peel, no more than two days at most. shit happens.
(EDIT) figuring some light is better than none, i've just re-arranged the plants around the 3 working lights... with a bit of a stadium setup as needed. some days... are more stressfull than others...
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It could've happened at a worse time (like further into flowering) but i'ma have to alternate one of the lights off each day until i'm back up to four lights. All the areas will probably miss at least one day of light... and unless i slip on another banana peel, no more than two days at most. shit happens.
(EDIT) figuring some light is better than none, i've just re-arranged the plants around the 3 working lights... with a bit of a stadium setup as needed. some days... are more stressfull than others...
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Thundercat
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Atleast your getting it figured out man!
shnkrmn
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I had the same deal. One of my HTG digital ballasts fried last night and took the bulb with it. I talked to them this morning and took care of it (and ordered another whole rig which really sweetened the deal for them (and me; they gave me a great price).
). Ug. One of the four ballasts just took a dump on me. And these are the AgroStar ballasts after being 'upgraded' from the GrowBright(s). Prolly woulda been better off not upgraded. Oh well, HTG stands by their lighting equipment for a full 2 years. So they've got replacement parts coming for me... and i've also ordered a back up ballast. If the replacement parts don't work then i'll have to send it in to get it fixed.
It could've happened at a worse time (like further into flowering) but i'ma have to alternate one of the lights off each day until i'm back up to four lights. All the areas will probably miss at least one day of light... and unless i slip on another banana peel, no more than two days at most. shit happens.
(EDIT) figuring some light is better than none, i've just re-arranged the plants around the 3 working lights... with a bit of a stadium setup as needed. some days... are more stressfull than others...
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ya, i wouldn't go anywhere else for lighting equipment. now as far as everything else is concerned ... i Would go just about anywhere else. i had been thinking about getting a back-up ballast anyways - i already have a back up cord set, timer, surge protector, and bulb... so i'll feel better once that gets here.I had the same deal. One of my HTG digital ballasts fried last night and took the bulb with it. I talked to them this morning and took care of it (and ordered another whole rig which really sweetened the deal for them (and me; they gave me a great price
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nescesity is the mother of invention
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Pic 1: the clones 6 days after being taken. most of them i havn't touched. i don't bother to take off the dome or to mist them so long as the dome has good humidity. I did add a bit more water to one set of 40 of them. And i trimmed a yellow leaf here and there off about 20 of them. Tommorow i will give all of them a bit more water. And will water in the flower room as well, which is on day 5.
Pic 2: without domes. they are still viable enough. they have seen temperature extreme from 90 to 66 degrees. the 90 almost claimed a couple of them. they recovered. i have only lost one so far... i saw that a bit of white strand mold was growing on one of them so i got rid of it. was one of the auto-flowers, some of which veg. well enough to go perpetual, others which stalled in veg. growth and probably won't.
Pic 3: a quick DIY room exhaust... to lower the temps from 88 to around 80. "500 cfm" Home Depot fan with 8" flange and a thermostat controller to shut it down at 70 degrees. just getting around to ordering the portable a.c. for this room, so i had to do something until it arrives.
Pic 4: the 44 gal. rez and the RO system. 330hp submersible pump feeds a garden hose that runs into the flower room. I add a ounce or so of H2O2 every 4 days or so. The nutrient solution seems to do fine even after sitting for awhile.
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Pic 2: without domes. they are still viable enough. they have seen temperature extreme from 90 to 66 degrees. the 90 almost claimed a couple of them. they recovered. i have only lost one so far... i saw that a bit of white strand mold was growing on one of them so i got rid of it. was one of the auto-flowers, some of which veg. well enough to go perpetual, others which stalled in veg. growth and probably won't.
Pic 3: a quick DIY room exhaust... to lower the temps from 88 to around 80. "500 cfm" Home Depot fan with 8" flange and a thermostat controller to shut it down at 70 degrees. just getting around to ordering the portable a.c. for this room, so i had to do something until it arrives.
Pic 4: the 44 gal. rez and the RO system. 330hp submersible pump feeds a garden hose that runs into the flower room. I add a ounce or so of H2O2 every 4 days or so. The nutrient solution seems to do fine even after sitting for awhile.
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Pic: day 7 for the clones, day 6 for the mothers. most of these got their first breath of fresh air today and their first drink of water. I also misted them a bit before putting the domes back on (RO water and a few drops of H2O2) and cut off a few yellow leaf tips or leaves.
still only have the one missing, but i'm not real hopeful for about 3 of the auto-flowers. They stalled in growth even before the clones were taken... and if they're done growing under HPS then flourescents aren't going to do much for them either.
I also blew gently on them while fitting the domes back into place in order to 'trap more CO2 in there' I'll likely not touch them again until the domes are going to come off for good around day 11 to day 14. I also like this way because there is no trasplanting until they are ready to go into the Hempy buckets in the flower room.
the temperature in there right now is 75 degrees.
i also lowered the lights as close as i could to the tops of the domes today.
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still only have the one missing, but i'm not real hopeful for about 3 of the auto-flowers. They stalled in growth even before the clones were taken... and if they're done growing under HPS then flourescents aren't going to do much for them either.
I also blew gently on them while fitting the domes back into place in order to 'trap more CO2 in there'
I'll likely not touch them again until the domes are going to come off for good around day 11 to day 14. I also like this way because there is no trasplanting until they are ready to go into the Hempy buckets in the flower room.the temperature in there right now is 75 degrees.
i also lowered the lights as close as i could to the tops of the domes today.
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I will hereby punctuate the Grow Journal with a bit of entertainment for those with too much time on their hands... I call this:
"World Within - Looking Within"
The annals of history suggest that sometime in September of 1608 a new toy was put up for sale at the annual Frankfurt fair. This curious tube-like device enabled a person to see things much further away than a person could see with the naked eye and could be rearranged in order to view very small things as well, in the manner of a microscope. "For the first time in human history the observable universe suddenly expanded, not just once or twice but a hundredfold. It made visible new realms in outer space and inside ourselves ..." (Worlds Within Worlds, 1977) You cant believe everything that you read, however, and history is always being rewritten.
Not long ago I had an unusually severe migraine headache that lasted for three days. I could not eat or keep down water. I spent many hours with my head resting in my hands. When I began to recover I came across a few interesting new ways of looking at the world. One of these knacks seems fairly benign and user-friendly, testing its validity will be simple enough.
Ten to fifteen years ago the latest rage at lava lamp stores was a new type of fandangled poster. Persons would stand in front of these posters for five minutes or even longer in an attempt to pick out the 3D image superimposed over the original photograph. Though a person couldnt always be successful, when you finally did arrive at the superimposed image there was an "Aha!" moment - and no doubt as to the content that had remained elusive for so long. Very few persons do not trust their own eyes. For this reason, I tend to believe that our beliefs choose us more often than we choose our beliefs. I would like to give you a free poster. And if youre doing it right, it wont take five minutes to see whats hidden inside.
Sit at a table in a brightly lit room, florescent lighting may be more helpful than sunlight. Slump down a bit with your elbows on the table, such that you can comfortably rest with your face in the palm of your hands. Cup one hand over the other, close your eyes and rest your index fingers against your lower forehead. Face the light with your eyes closed and be mindful of keeping your pupils facing straight ahead, then gently place the back of a thumbnail over each pupil. Apply slight pressure to the pupil that you will try to "see out of". Keeping your eyes closed, begin looking for any bit of movement or color that you can see. Dont go poking your eyes out, but if you arent having much luck, then try adjusting the amount of pressure slightly. If youve accomplished nothing after 30-60 seconds of this, then try "seeing" with the other eye (being mindful that the pupils face the thumb nail and havent rolled back into your head). The first sign of success may appear to be small pricks of color evenly spaced. Attempt to zoom in or focus on these. When you see any sort of movement or color the task is to see more deeply. Once you have something in view do not be surprised to find that the light illuminating it seems to shift from yellow to green to blue in a sort of wave that draws into your point of focus. When this isnt happening, things will generally appear in their natural colors; clear, pink, red and darker pigments. It may be that the thumbnail forces the iris into a concave curvature such that the eye becomes a natural microscope.
"Most startling to those who think of themselves as unique individuals is the view scientific photography gives us of ourselves. A microworld exists inside us. Indeed, it -is- us. (...) Within this privileged environment millions of organisms live, reproduce and die. Like their prototypes in (the sea), they develeop hierarchies of mutual aid, mark their territories and repel invaders. They go about cleaning our lungs, filtering our blood supply and fighting our diseases without our ever being aware of them." (Worlds Within Worlds, 1977)
So... Ive got my eyes closed and Im looking at this small, apparently single celled, organism. It looks kind of like a translucent flea with a couple dark spots: one in the body and another one in what appears to be its head. It also has a couple of appendages, perhaps cilia or flagella, though they appear to be of a harder make and possibly even segmented. It is surrounded by red blood cells. I can see maybe five clearly to each side of it, after that my vision begins to blur. What is most apparent to me is that this little guy obviously has a mind of its own. It is clearly moving around of its own volition, at a speed and direction of its own choosing. It bumps into the red blood cells and jostles them around. Then I find myself thinking, "Is this the Good Guy or the Bad Guy? Maybe I shouldnt be cheering him on!" You might come across macrophages gobbling up garbage, blood cells, the river that carries these cells along, the currents in the river itself, and tissues. One hundred and one different organisms, structures, and interactions. A vast colony of self-sentient life, such that it may boggle your mind to believe that these cells are working together (harmoniously for the most part) inside of you. I cannot say for certain exactly what is within view of this living microscopic vision. I can only imagine that the view is within some part of the eyeball itself. I would guess that a person using this technique may achieve magnification from 10x to 1000x. Are you ready for the "lava lamp store" crazy poster challenge?
Wether or not you are successful, please do not attempt to do this more than three times in a two week period of time. It places a great strain on the eyes and the slight pressure from the thumbnail may certainly cause bruising to an organ as sensitive as the eye must be. And so, while it may not be a good hobby or pastime, those that are successful will find the view amazing none-the-less. I can only imagine the effect that this has had on the psyche of mankind across the ages. Certainly others have experienced this phenomena accidently or perhaps when coming awake from dreams. Curiously, the artist Dali chose to sleep in a room intensely lit and referred to his works of art as hand-painted dream photographs. He said that the lights were used to better illuminate his dreams and to make them more intense. Perhaps someone will paint what this new organic microscope has revealed to them. Im afraid that I am not much of an artist.
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"World Within - Looking Within"
The annals of history suggest that sometime in September of 1608 a new toy was put up for sale at the annual Frankfurt fair. This curious tube-like device enabled a person to see things much further away than a person could see with the naked eye and could be rearranged in order to view very small things as well, in the manner of a microscope. "For the first time in human history the observable universe suddenly expanded, not just once or twice but a hundredfold. It made visible new realms in outer space and inside ourselves ..." (Worlds Within Worlds, 1977) You cant believe everything that you read, however, and history is always being rewritten.
Not long ago I had an unusually severe migraine headache that lasted for three days. I could not eat or keep down water. I spent many hours with my head resting in my hands. When I began to recover I came across a few interesting new ways of looking at the world. One of these knacks seems fairly benign and user-friendly, testing its validity will be simple enough.
Ten to fifteen years ago the latest rage at lava lamp stores was a new type of fandangled poster. Persons would stand in front of these posters for five minutes or even longer in an attempt to pick out the 3D image superimposed over the original photograph. Though a person couldnt always be successful, when you finally did arrive at the superimposed image there was an "Aha!" moment - and no doubt as to the content that had remained elusive for so long. Very few persons do not trust their own eyes. For this reason, I tend to believe that our beliefs choose us more often than we choose our beliefs. I would like to give you a free poster. And if youre doing it right, it wont take five minutes to see whats hidden inside.
Sit at a table in a brightly lit room, florescent lighting may be more helpful than sunlight. Slump down a bit with your elbows on the table, such that you can comfortably rest with your face in the palm of your hands. Cup one hand over the other, close your eyes and rest your index fingers against your lower forehead. Face the light with your eyes closed and be mindful of keeping your pupils facing straight ahead, then gently place the back of a thumbnail over each pupil. Apply slight pressure to the pupil that you will try to "see out of". Keeping your eyes closed, begin looking for any bit of movement or color that you can see. Dont go poking your eyes out, but if you arent having much luck, then try adjusting the amount of pressure slightly. If youve accomplished nothing after 30-60 seconds of this, then try "seeing" with the other eye (being mindful that the pupils face the thumb nail and havent rolled back into your head). The first sign of success may appear to be small pricks of color evenly spaced. Attempt to zoom in or focus on these. When you see any sort of movement or color the task is to see more deeply. Once you have something in view do not be surprised to find that the light illuminating it seems to shift from yellow to green to blue in a sort of wave that draws into your point of focus. When this isnt happening, things will generally appear in their natural colors; clear, pink, red and darker pigments. It may be that the thumbnail forces the iris into a concave curvature such that the eye becomes a natural microscope.
"Most startling to those who think of themselves as unique individuals is the view scientific photography gives us of ourselves. A microworld exists inside us. Indeed, it -is- us. (...) Within this privileged environment millions of organisms live, reproduce and die. Like their prototypes in (the sea), they develeop hierarchies of mutual aid, mark their territories and repel invaders. They go about cleaning our lungs, filtering our blood supply and fighting our diseases without our ever being aware of them." (Worlds Within Worlds, 1977)
So... Ive got my eyes closed and Im looking at this small, apparently single celled, organism. It looks kind of like a translucent flea with a couple dark spots: one in the body and another one in what appears to be its head. It also has a couple of appendages, perhaps cilia or flagella, though they appear to be of a harder make and possibly even segmented. It is surrounded by red blood cells. I can see maybe five clearly to each side of it, after that my vision begins to blur. What is most apparent to me is that this little guy obviously has a mind of its own. It is clearly moving around of its own volition, at a speed and direction of its own choosing. It bumps into the red blood cells and jostles them around. Then I find myself thinking, "Is this the Good Guy or the Bad Guy? Maybe I shouldnt be cheering him on!" You might come across macrophages gobbling up garbage, blood cells, the river that carries these cells along, the currents in the river itself, and tissues. One hundred and one different organisms, structures, and interactions. A vast colony of self-sentient life, such that it may boggle your mind to believe that these cells are working together (harmoniously for the most part) inside of you. I cannot say for certain exactly what is within view of this living microscopic vision. I can only imagine that the view is within some part of the eyeball itself. I would guess that a person using this technique may achieve magnification from 10x to 1000x. Are you ready for the "lava lamp store" crazy poster challenge?
Wether or not you are successful, please do not attempt to do this more than three times in a two week period of time. It places a great strain on the eyes and the slight pressure from the thumbnail may certainly cause bruising to an organ as sensitive as the eye must be. And so, while it may not be a good hobby or pastime, those that are successful will find the view amazing none-the-less. I can only imagine the effect that this has had on the psyche of mankind across the ages. Certainly others have experienced this phenomena accidently or perhaps when coming awake from dreams. Curiously, the artist Dali chose to sleep in a room intensely lit and referred to his works of art as hand-painted dream photographs. He said that the lights were used to better illuminate his dreams and to make them more intense. Perhaps someone will paint what this new organic microscope has revealed to them. Im afraid that I am not much of an artist.
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Thundercat
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Sounds pretty interesting, I'll try it tomorrow in my growroom.
raiderman
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i bot a moisture tester,rapitest. wats the good number to water?