silverhaze20
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unless i calulated wrong, you should be pullin almost 50 pounds off this grow.... im really confused
DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow
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BloodShot420
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i would say 5 lbs is a good target for 4KW... its a good minimum, dont want to be too optimistic...
raiderman
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i remember wen i got some purple lightening seeds from marc emery and it was my first grow in 2000 and i had beginners error by hoping to get haf pound under a 400 in 2 gal. pots.,lol.truth was it was less than one ounce per plant,lol.burned up haf of them using miracle grow fert. at ungodly levels,lol.by the time i was finished you could see they were begging for mercy to put a end to it all,lol.but i am hoping for around 3 pounds under these 2-600s, 31 plants , maybe better
silverhaze20
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Yea that sounds more like wat I thought.I plan on doing 10 plants hempy and lst under 1 1000 watter on a mover,long flowering and I'm hopin for 5 pounds atleast or ill be dissappointed
raiderman
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if i had more room in the garage i'd def. use a mover.
ur plants still look real good bro, so it looks like you caught it in time. i don't know what all was in that 1000 ppm, but it was probably just a bunch of shite ur plants had no use for. RO is the way to go. 175 bucks will hook u up with great water for a long time. Filters have a very short life, but if ur not running a lot of plants, you might just get by with filters. In the long run, they will cost you more than just getting a RO system though. (Online find 100 gallon per day... for much less than what you would find a 25 gpd at Lowe's or Home Depot)
anthony6216
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Nice looking room bro looks very clean I like that nice man
peace and1love
peace and1love
'fraid ur looking to be dissapointed. 1k on a light mover... no matter how long you veg them, or how well you scrog them, you'd still probably have a difficult time hitting 3 lbs. And that isn't practical when you can harvest less... but more times per year for a greater overall yield. 2 lbs. per 1000w light is considered 'Pro'. It means that you have your conditions dialed in and are likely using supplemental CO2. Even in the SeeMoreBuds videos on one grow he only pulled 2lbs. per 1k (4.5 lbs with 2400w). And on his best grow he pulled a bit over 3lbs. per 1k (6 lbs. with 2400w) using 300 clones - 100 of which died by being crowded out. He also utilized intense SOG with enough plants to land you in the Fed Pen for a very long time. (Especially when you factor in how many clones he must of had going simultaneously.) If ur fairly new to growing ... 1lb per 1000w HPS is far more realistic (especially w/o supplemental CO2.)
UPDATE: I'll get some pics up this weekend. This weeked i will be pulling the clones for the next batch, so you'll be able to see how i clone. Then i will be going 36 hours of darkness followed by 12/12. Almost all of the plants have finally "Greened Up" with more robust vegetative growth. I attribute this to finally hitting the reservoir, as i havn't watered them in 3 days now. I think i may have been pampering them too much... some of them had no reason to seek out the rez when I was keeping the initial 16 oz. of media thoroughly moist by watering it everyday. At least half of them are 'shoulder to shoulder' at this point as well. They currently stand at between 14" and 19" inches tall. And, following the advice of fellow growers, I have decided that further veg growth may not significantly impact the final harvest weight.
I am Oh So Ready to see some Trichome Production !!!
I am Oh So Ready to see some Trichome Production !!!
Thundercat
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Thanks man, I'm pretty happy with them. They seem to love the MH, and havn't been burning any more that I've noticed. So ya I think I might have got it. Maybe sunday I'll be able to take my first set of clones. I have to start flowering by april 1st, and I'm hoping this is gonna give me enough time to get how much I want. We'll see!!
my filtered RO water may still pH check-in at 8.5 or so... but that is fairly meaningless when the ppm are between 0 and 15. As soon as it hit a media with a slightly lower pH, that would be its new pH. Or as soon as you added a single drop of 5.6 General Hydroponic nutrients, the pH of the gallon would jump to 5.6
PICTURE UPDATE:
Pic 1: 16 oz. styrofoam cups filled with M.G. Seed Starting Potting Soil. Moisten the media before you put it in the cups (or you'll have to dump it back out again like i did
Pic 2: Shows the donors ("moms") have done pretty well to fill in side to side. The White Russians have a very nice leaning toward the indica side, they are Ak-47xWhiteWidow hybrid
Pic 3: Not all have filled in side to side, mostly its the G13xHashPlants that havn't as they are the most indica in phenotype (they are a indica x indica cross).
Pic 4: Shows the planted clones with 9 oz. clear plastic cups being used as Humidity Domes (top rims cut off). The Farmer Dude is looking at the one missing a dome. The colored beads are used one for each strain, with either a black or white zip-tie to denote a difference in the strain phenotypes.
Pic 5: View from the helicopter with the lights up.
Pic 6: Helicopter view of the lights lowered.
Pic 7: They are all now proud mothers. Since i have yet to see any of them truly flower (i have only used pre-flowering to determine sex) - all of them were cloned. And then i took extra clones of my favorites. With the strain choices already made, I will have to base further clone choices off whatever plants turn out to be the most heavy yielders.
Now i need to eat more munchy food.
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Pic 1: 16 oz. styrofoam cups filled with M.G. Seed Starting Potting Soil. Moisten the media before you put it in the cups (or you'll have to dump it back out again like i did
Pic 2: Shows the donors ("moms") have done pretty well to fill in side to side. The White Russians have a very nice leaning toward the indica side, they are Ak-47xWhiteWidow hybrid
Pic 3: Not all have filled in side to side, mostly its the G13xHashPlants that havn't as they are the most indica in phenotype (they are a indica x indica cross).
Pic 4: Shows the planted clones with 9 oz. clear plastic cups being used as Humidity Domes (top rims cut off). The Farmer Dude is looking at the one missing a dome. The colored beads are used one for each strain, with either a black or white zip-tie to denote a difference in the strain phenotypes.
Pic 5: View from the helicopter with the lights up.
Pic 6: Helicopter view of the lights lowered.
Pic 7: They are all now proud mothers. Since i have yet to see any of them truly flower (i have only used pre-flowering to determine sex) - all of them were cloned. And then i took extra clones of my favorites. With the strain choices already made, I will have to base further clone choices off whatever plants turn out to be the most heavy yielders.
Now i need to eat more munchy food.
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and, oh ya, the older ladies are going into 36 hours of darkness tommorow, followed by 12/12. Hallelujah. I just did some light lollipopping... took off 4 or more of the bottom branches. Got G.H. Flora Nova en route (2 1/2 gallons each Grow and Bloom). Using H2O2 every time i water or in the reservoir every 4 days or so (80 ml per 40 gal. rez), havn't had any sign of green algae yet. No sign of any pests, im'a pick up so diatamaceous earth tommorow anyways and spread it all over the outer walls in the flower room and the entire floor in the clone/veg. room.
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420weedman
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damn thats alot of clones 
Thundercat
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Those kids are looking great man. I wish I could have taken half that many clones. I'm still waiting on my first set. Its only been since January, but still I'm getting impatient. Soon though, they are making great progress.
damn thats alot of clones
heh heh. i try to take 50 percent more than i need. and my cloning rate has never been that bad. I am contemplating running a couple plants in each bucket, not next go, but the one after ... and flowering them when they are only 8-12 inches tall rather than waiting until they are 14-19 inches tall as i did this time.
Here's what the donors / "moms" look like after the light Lollipopping, bottom 4 branches or so: (Pics 1 & 2) Spread some diatamaceous earth around the perimeter... and they are now taking their first dirt nap - and dreaming of making me some big buds. Had a migraine... so i had to settle for 24 hours of darkness, which will be followed by 12/12 from here on out.
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Apparently SLEEP does a body good. They've grown more through the last 24 hours of darkness than Ever they did when the lights were on. I know some of this is associated to "the stretch" of going into flower, but i'm also talking about pure vegetative mass / leaves. I have heard that root development becomes a greater focus to the plant during the dark period, so perhaps this accounts for some of the new vigor. Many of the leaves fattened way up and took on a nice phenotype specific appearance of being well-outlined or jagged, etc. For the first time ever, some of the plants finally 'perked out and up' such that a greater portion of the leaves were stretched taut to capture all of the ('suns') light rays. Previously many of them just kinda looked hang dog. May be that the root system is having a easier time supporting what growth remains after the light Lollipopping as well.
All in all, they have never looked better. About three of the auto-flowering White Russians pretty well just stalled all-together on vegetative growth - so hopefully these guys will now take off in flower production now that their flowering hormones will be allowed to rise each night during the 12/12.
In the future, i may attempt to veg. under 18/6 (rather than 24/0) to see more of this type of vigor. I had been avoiding it because 1/3 of the W.R.'s turned auto-flower on me.
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All in all, they have never looked better. About three of the auto-flowering White Russians pretty well just stalled all-together on vegetative growth - so hopefully these guys will now take off in flower production now that their flowering hormones will be allowed to rise each night during the 12/12.
In the future, i may attempt to veg. under 18/6 (rather than 24/0) to see more of this type of vigor. I had been avoiding it because 1/3 of the W.R.'s turned auto-flower on me.
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