Congress has closed its doors for.....

urinmyrice

urinmyrice

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SPECIAL "CLOSED SESSION" OF U.S. HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSSED A LOT MORE THAN
THE PENDING SECURITY SURVEILLANCE PROVISIONS!

This was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress
has closed its doors to the public. What was it that they
were discussing that they do NOT want us to know about?

Word has begun leaking from last nights special, closed-door
session of the United States House of Representatives.

Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as
was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they
also discussed:

1. the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by
September 2008,

2. the imminent collapse of US federal government finances
by February 2009,

3. the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of
the collapse,

4. advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to
move against the government,

5. the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps
constructed throughout the USA,

6. the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress
for the collapses,

7. the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress
and their families to reside during expected massive civil
unrest,

8. the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States
with Canada (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its
cheap labor pool),

9. the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three
nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic
armageddon.

Members of Congress were FORBIDDEN to reveal what was discussed.
Several are so furious and concerned about the future of the contry, they
have begun leaking info. More details coming later today and over the
weekend. SPREAD THE WORD!!!

Source

SPECIAL "CLOSED SESSION" OF U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSSED A LOT MORE THAN THE PENDING SECURITY SURVEILLANCE PROVISIONS >> Four Winds 10 - fourwinds10.com
 
shamegame

shamegame

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I do not consider the source credible. At all. I seriously doubt the economy is going to collaps in 5 months. If that were true the rich would have liquidated everything and moved to Australia already.
 
medicineman

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No doubt, we can't sustain the assault on our economy by funding wars accross the planet much longer. At 2 billion a week we are sliding into oblivion and who will be left to pay? Certainly not the leaders that have gotten in to this. The Bush regime has bankrupted this economy so their friends could all become billionaires and move to foriegn shores once the insurection begins. Anyone not see this?
 
medicineman

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ViRedd said:
The only person Americans should be angry at is the man in the mirror.

Vi
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Right, oh wise one, it's all our fault, HAHAHEHEHOHO~LOL~. Let me just say: I didn't vote for this idiot either time and certainly didn't vote for war, so maybe it is you that should be looking in to the mirror. It is the crazy war that has made our economy so horrible that citizens are crying out for insurection. 2 Billion a week, kinda adds up, don't it?
 
ViRedd

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medicineman said:
Right, oh wise one, it's all our fault, HAHAHEHEHOHO~LOL~. Let me just say: I didn't vote for this idiot either time and certainly didn't vote for war, so maybe it is you that should be looking in to the mirror. It is the crazy war that has made our economy so horrible that citizens are crying out for insurection. 2 Billion a week, kinda adds up, don't it?
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Yes, I suppose that when one only looks through the wrong end of a telescope as you do, all one can see is Bush.

We have 530 people in the Congress and Senate who have one thing in mind ... and one thing only ... and that is their reelection. With very few exceptions, over generations, they have voted anti-freedom legislation into place ... because we ... you and I ... and the guy next door, have asked for it.

Yes, around the beginning of the 19th century, we, collectively as a people, discovered that we can vote ourselves perks from the public treasury. We discovered that we can, with the help of our elected officials, commit legal robbery upon our neighbors and friends with impunity. We can legally steal that which is not ours.

We have evolved into a society, and maintain a political system, whereby everyone plunders everyone. This is why the economy will collapse. This is why the dollar is sinking. This is why jobs are going overseas. This is why corporations are moving off shore.

And you think its George Bush? :roll:

Vi

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medicineman

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ViRedd said:
Yes, I suppose that when one only looks through the wrong end of a telescope as you do, all one can see is Bush.

We have 530 people in the Congress and Senate who have one thing in mind ... and one thing only ... and that is their reelection. With very few exceptions, over generations, they have voted anti-freedom legislation into place ... because we ... you and I ... and the guy next door, have asked for it.

Yes, around the beginning of the 19th century, we, collectively as a people, discovered that we can vote ourselves perks from the public treasury. We discovered that we can, with the help of our elected officials, commit legal robbery upon our neighbors and friends with impunity. We can legally steal that which is not ours.

We have evolved into a society, and maintain a political system, whereby everyone plunders everyone. This is why the economy will collapse. This is why the dollar is sinking. This is why jobs are going overseas. This is why corporations are moving off shore.

And you think its George Bush? :roll:

Vi

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Same old one horse rhetoric, It's the poor stealing from the rich bullshit. Yeah I'm sure that is the crux of the problem Redd, it's the fucking poor looking for handouts that have fucked this government to tears. What a load.
 
ViRedd

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medicineman said:
Same old one horse rhetoric, It's the poor stealing from the rich bullshit. Yeah I'm sure that is the crux of the problem Redd, it's the fucking poor looking for handouts that have fucked this government to tears. What a load.
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I'll assume that you read my entire post ... but didn't absorb the whole thing. Read it again ... about the part that says: "whereby everyone plunders everyone." This means that the poor are plundering their poor neighbors, the middle class and the rich. The Rich are plundering the rich, the middle class and the poor. The middle class is plundering the poor, the rich and their middle class neighbors. EVERYONE IS PLUNDERING EVERYONE.

Vi
 
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MatsuMist

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Actually it's the printing of money that has no actually backing (ie gold) that is ruining us.

Printing paper and selling it to us, with a interest rate attached to it, won't solve any problems either.

"the poor looking for handouts" you my friend are incorrect.

Abused goverment programs and agencies are also taking a toll too.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ViRedd said:
I'll assume that you read my entire post ... but didn't absorb the whole thing. Read it again ... about the part that says: "whereby everyone plunders everyone." This means that the poor are plundering their poor neighbors, the middle class and the rich. The Rich are plundering the rich, the middle class and the poor. The middle class is plundering the poor, the rich and their middle class neighbors. EVERYONE IS PLUNDERING EVERYONE.

Vi
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Maybe, but the rich are winning, they can hire plunderers to do their dirty work. Let me ask you a question. Do you work for a realator or are you your own man. I'm assuming you are a contract player. 10-99s and so on. But, don't you have to pay someone above you for the priveledge of working, aren't you being basically plundered?
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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medicineman said:
Maybe, but the rich are winning, they can hire plunderers to do their dirty work. Let me ask you a question. Do you work for a realator or are you your own man. I'm assuming you are a contract player. 10-99s and so on. But, don't you have to pay someone above you for the priveledge of working, aren't you being basically plundered?
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No, Med ... I'm not "being plundered." Commission splits are freely negotiated between the agent and the broker. Its a private contract between two willing participants. The broker pays for the everyday expenses of the office like the light bill, phone bill, office help, etc. I, in effect, "rent" my office space and get to keep the majority of the commissions I generate. What I "give" to the broker provides me with a cheerful office in which to meet clients, a nice private office for myself, a computer, a color printer and phones ... and provides a profit for the broker. That profit keeps the doors open and provides a nice life style for the broker. Everything else, I pay for myself. Its a business arrangement ... and no plundering takes place.

Now then, if all the other brokers in town were to elect a "Head Broker," and that "Head Broker" decides, under threat of violence, to extract some of the commissions that I bring through my broker's door for capital improvements in the other broker's offices, THAT would plunder.

Vi
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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MatsuMist said:
Actually it's the printing of money that has no actually backing (ie gold) that is ruining us.

Printing paper and selling it to us, with a interest rate attached to it, won't solve any problems either.

"the poor looking for handouts" you my friend are incorrect.

Abused goverment programs and agencies are also taking a toll too.
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Well, you are all over the map here.

First, let me say that I agree with you about the printing of the money thingie. The rest of your post, I don't agree with.

The reason our currency was converted from Gold Certificates to Federal Reserve Notes was so money could be inflated, through printing, to pay for the Welfare State. This began in 1933 under FDR's administration.

FDR outlawed the ownership of gold ... any gold, other than what was to be used for industrial and dental uses. Americans were told that if they didn't turn in all gold coin, and bullion, and stop honoring gold clauses in contracts, they would be arrested, thrown in prison for five years ... and/or fined ten thousand dollars.

Why was this done? As I said, so the government could print money out of thin air without having to dig more gold out of the ground to back the amount of currency being printed.

It IS the "poor looking for handouts." And it IS the abused government programs. It's also the middle class looking for handouts ...and its the rich looking for handouts too ... all at the expense of someone else. These are the "abused government programs" of which you speak. These are government "promises."

All of these "promises" have to be paid for somehow. They can be paid through taxation, borrowing or printing money.

Taxation is driving corporations, and the jobs they create, off shore. Inflating the money supply is driving the worth of the dollar into ground. Borrowing is turning our resources over to foreign powers.

All this in the name of "free" government cheese. :blsmoke:

Vi
 
tickitickitembo

tickitickitembo

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haha... every political thread i read, vi and med.. you two are always going at it. its like watching hannity and combs.

i think our economy is about to collapse. its time to run for cover, stock up on canned food items, and shield your assets!
 
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MatsuMist

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I agree with your post almost to a T , from what i read i previous sounded like you said

This is the reason why our economy is falling "because of people looking for handouts"

while i think that isn't helping our cause, it's also not the main reason IMO.

correct me if im wrong, but don't private companies do the printing, and loaning of our currency?
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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MatsuMist said:
I agree with your post almost to a T , from what i read i previous sounded like you said
This is the reason why our economy is falling "because of people looking for handouts"while i think that isn't helping our cause, it's also not the main reason IMO.correct me if im wrong, but don't private companies do the printing, and loaning of our currency?
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Here, read this: Money Created Out of Thin Air

Vi
 
tampicos

tampicos

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all these doom and gloom prophecies blow. its as apparent as a chic that gets accidentally pregnant with a baby lying to herself about it going away if you ignore it. when the fuck is the u.s gonna grab a fuckin grip on itself...i wanna do something so bad but i have no idea what. if i call a lawyer up, and provide footage of the president/vice president/anyone who really is in power for the sole reason of pushing themselves up and ditching the country behind perjuring themselves, will it hold water? i wish i could just hijack a tv satelite and just show the country something that will move it towards action against a few fucking men who think they are grander than an entire country... i swear, there is probably less than 100 people who are jepordizing the country for the other 299,999,900 that live here.
 
ZenMaster

ZenMaster

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ViRedd said:
Well, you are all over the map here.

First, let me say that I agree with you about the printing of the money thingie. The rest of your post, I don't agree with.

The reason our currency was converted from Gold Certificates to Federal Reserve Notes was so money could be inflated, through printing, to pay for the Welfare State. This began in 1933 under FDR's administration.

FDR outlawed the ownership of gold ... any gold, other than what was to be used for industrial and dental uses. Americans were told that if they didn't turn in all gold coin, and bullion, and stop honoring gold clauses in contracts, they would be arrested, thrown in prison for five years ... and/or fined ten thousand dollars.

Why was this done? As I said, so the government could print money out of thin air without having to dig more gold out of the ground to back the amount of currency being printed.

It IS the "poor looking for handouts." And it IS the abused government programs. It's also the middle class looking for handouts ...and its the rich looking for handouts too ... all at the expense of someone else. These are the "abused government programs" of which you speak. These are government "promises."

All of these "promises" have to be paid for somehow. They can be paid through taxation, borrowing or printing money.

Taxation is driving corporations, and the jobs they create, off shore. Inflating the money supply is driving the worth of the dollar into ground. Borrowing is turning our resources over to foreign powers.

All this in the name of "free" government cheese. :blsmoke:

Vi
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:clap:

Very good read Vi, touched on some elusive subjects there, everyone wants someone to point the blame finger toward and I guess that scapegoat is Bush.
 
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