You're light years away from me with da skillz. I'm the very definition of an end user. They're like here see if you can check your email or if you can fuck this up. I do a pretty good job sometimes. You already know I'm an Ubuntu fanboy for the ease of use. Do not like Unity one bit though and have been using Mate, which is based on Gnome2, since they changed. I may give Fedora cOre another run. It's been bout 8 years. I imagine they have a live CD?