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DST

DST

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the great flushing debate......me no flush really. I just water with plain water the last couple of times now. In fact I water, then change my mind and go back to giving them another feed, then just water again next time. I really don't hold a massive amount of my tatse in the bud to flushing....And there is a lot of stock put into feeding them in the last 2 weeks due to the fact they are putting so much weight on...my 2 bob.
Bobotrank said:
Nice, Duchie! A good Fri night along with the bings and the manicured girls is always great ;)

Dude, I don't know what to do. Westy was sayin' his bbc went 9.5 weeks. I thought I had a pretty sativa lookin' pheno, so I was thinking about letting them go a little longer, and maybe getting another round of water with clearing agent in there. I've only 'flushed' them once, but would really like to have another flush (and a better one) in there to secure some better flavor. Thoughts?
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It's Saturday it's Saturday!!!!! Got my days back in order now.

Peace, DST
 
duchieman

duchieman

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DST said:
the great flushing debate......me no flush really. I just water with plain water the last couple of times now. In fact I water, then change my mind and go back to giving them another feed, then just water again next time. I really don't hold a massive amount of my tatse in the bud to flushing....And there is a lot of stock put into feeding them in the last 2 weeks due to the fact they are putting so much weight on...my 2 bob.

It's Saturday it's Saturday!!!!! Got my days back in order now.

Peace, DST
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Thanks D for chiming in. I think there's a lot to be said about a lot of different tactics to achieve best results. Lots of bad advice and tonic water being sold and preached. Everyone is an expert at the ROCKET science behind growing a plant, so you better pay attention, do exactly as prescribed and get all the products they tell you to get. I believe that so far I've taken a lot of unorthodox approaches in my journey and most of them I did on purpose. I don't care how much someone tells me something, there are just those times that I have to see for myself, even if it does delay things or pose a risk of a bad outcome, because sometimes you just have to take the opportunity to either discover something, or make sure it's done right. I also don't believe in going out and getting the best rated product right off the bat when you first get into something. Even if the product is the be all, end all in the universe, hands down, how would you really know if that's all you experienced. So far I've used 25 dollar bulbs with pretty decent results, so it seems. Am I going to try a high end bulb? You bet, and when I do I WILL know how much more affective it is over the others. I also don't get all riled up about light leaks in my room, or whether they get hit with light during the down time. I know that it may eventually bite me in the ass and I'll end up with some hermies (reg seed girls caused by stress) but when I do I'll have a much better Idea of what it took to stress them out, resulting in a better feel for what we do with less fears and phobia. One more example of this learning strategy of mine is harvesting, like we're talking here. I'm still taking testers 2 and 1 week before to determine how much better they are. How do I know how much of a difference a week makes if I never tried it the week before? Because some guy told me so? Nah!

I guess where this ramble is meant to go is... Relax mon, take it eeezie, no need to be stressin cause everytin is Iree mon!

And the feeding to the end. Makes sense to me really. Livestock and crops don't stop being fed before the end. Also, I thought flushing is something you don't want to be doing when your organic. Is this not so?

:peace: Duchie
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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This is a never ending debate it seems, but a good one. Since there is allot of food left in my soil from the teas I feed them I just use plain water for the last 10 days then let them dry out real nice before chop chop.
 
DST

DST

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Well I know there is still food in my medium due to the fact that when I re-use it I can go light on the veg feeding. Duchie, like you say, start easy and learn as you go. I think my first set up was less than a hundred and good to go. Whatever we do to our weed, the dried end product, once all processes have finished within the product, gets you stoned. Jobs a good un!
 
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canolution

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in tlo it is impossible to flush cuz your soil is all organic and some of the additives takes a year to fully break down . so you can flush all day and it wont make a dif in fact i really dont feed my plants nuttin but water and sometimes teas. but in hydro i def can tell the dif between flushed and flushed buds
 
DST

DST

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I've been building up my medium over the last year. Composting my old roots and some specifics from the kitchen waste (veg peels, egg shells and what not.) I start with coco and have perhaps mixed about a 10-1 ratio of normal potting soil I bought from my flower stall around the corner. I also mixed in my old pots that I grew some veggie in, peas, brocolli etc...the current grow seem to be happy with their medium. It's nice not to have to lug back 50litre bags of coco on my bike from the grow store.
canolution said:
in tlo it is impossible to flush cuz your soil is all organic and some of the additives takes a year to fully break down . so you can flush all day and it wont make a dif in fact i really dont feed my plants nuttin but water and sometimes teas. but in hydro i def can tell the dif between flushed and flushed buds
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mr west

mr west

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thats were im goping wrong then i recon, I use fresh coco from the start and dont rycycle it in my grows but i give it to me mate lol
 
DST

DST

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ach, yer too kind. Just get an old coco sack, break the root ball open and shake like a mother inside the bag, all the coco soon fall out and you are left with a root ball. Ok, you get some roots in the recycled medium but that's all gravy to me...
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thats were im goping wrong then i recon, I use fresh coco from the start and dont rycycle it in my grows but i give it to me mate lol
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duchieman

duchieman

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This is where I want to be and what I want to be doing. I'm still on the look out for Red Worms to start my new composter. Actually I've been invited to come get some I just have to take the little drive. It's to a horticultural center so it will be worth the drive, and now that the spring's breaking. I'm a big time, grind my own, coffee drinker and my wife and daughter are veggie nuts so those two alone will start any good composter, I understand. About coir, I think I've found another score in my journeys.

There is a company here that sells premium Sri Lankan coir in all forms. They sell a compressed brick that on their company site retails for 6 dollars per brick. I did not know this when I found 2 on a shelf at a local home store for 1.99 each, but I found out when I got home. Went back another time and there were 2 more so I grabbed them. Another time I saw one, so I asked if they were just trickling them out to the floor and they said no that's all they have. The lady was nice enough to look and see if there were more in the main warehouse, which she found they had just under 300 of them, so I ordered 10. They arrived yesterday and when I picked them up there were still 275 sitting there. I'm thinking what is going on here is that the company, which is a larger Canadian Home Center, has gone with an in-house brand, of cheaper Chinese Coir, I can tell the difference in my hand, and that they stopped ordering from Millenium and are sitting on the remainder in the warehouse. Anyway I ordered 50 more and am sereiously thinking of snapping up the hole lot, or at least another 100. Hell 2/3's off is a hell of a deal!

This is the product.
http://www.vgrove.com/MM5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MillenniumsoilsCoirProductStore&Product_Code=0015&Category_Code=
Coir%20Brick%20-%20Med.jpg

It seems as though I'm having as good if not a better time finding deals before the season starts, picking up remainder stock, than I would at the end of the season.
 
duchieman

duchieman

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Oh Dropa, now you have me doing math. I hate frickin math. Lets forget about shipping and all that, lets just compare the two products from here only. So one is bales and one is bricks with different expansion and approximate fill amount.
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[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Brick (1.5lbs) 2" x 4" x 8" expands 8 to 9 times its size. Will fill approx. 1/3 cu ft. ($6)

[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Bale (11 lbs) 12" x 12" x 6" Each Bale will expand 5 times its size. Will fill approx. 2.5 cu ft.[/SIZE][/FONT]($12)

By this it looks like I'd need 7 1/2 bricks to get the 2.5 cubic ft of the bale. (7.5 x 6.00 = $45.00) (7.5 x 1.5 lbs = 11.25 lbs)

7.5 x $1.99 = $14.93. No Shipping. I don't know but it looks to me like I'm WINNING! No really, the bale option right through the company is definitely a good option as long as the shipping isn't outrageous, and sometimes dimension trumps weight. I could drive there, about 3 hrs round trip, but time and fuel kills that idea unless I have another reason for being in town, which I never do. Even looking at this closer it seems even more to me that they're clearing this product out for their own line. Either way I'm placing another order when this one comes in, at least another 50 if not 100.
 
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Kyle Willey

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Hey, sorry this is off topic but I need some help and you guys are reliable.

I recently made a clone box out of a dresser (2.5x1.5x2)

The humidity is 85-90%, any suggestions?
 
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