farmingfisherman
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If you own the 5 x 5 already then you could add some led to help fill in the gaps. Plenty of good strip led lights that will work nicely for that purpose these days. You have a budget you are trying to stay within?
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daddy32992
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Yup I cancelled it and got a 4x4. I plan on using it for both but I was thinking of doing the mixed spectrum setup with one 3100 K and 4200 K bulb
farmingfisherman
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What light are you going to use? I'm not sure but I think one 4100k bulb should cover the space for veg.. The warmer the light during veg the more it will stretch.
ColoradoHighGrower
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Love these photos!
Yep, like @farmingfisherman and others describe above, the 315s are perfect for ~3x3 feet. I grow in a bathtub that has an area of ~2.75x5.5 feet. My first few runs i only had a single SunSystems 315 lec hung in the center in that space, and definitely showed growth tapering off to either end of the tub. In the center directly under the unit, plants were smashed against the back wall and pushing the shower curtain out a good 6-8inches. I have since upgraded to two lights hung to divide the length of the space in thirds, and get much better and more even growth now.
farmingfisherman
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Refresh my old man memory, do you veg under the 315's or use something else?Love these photos!
TintEastwood
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Different 315s.
The bigger taller on left is a vertical bulb with internal ballast. 18" x18" reflector opening. Gotta have the height for these.
The smaller is a horizontal bulb external ballast. 11"x9" reflector opening. IME, a great fit for smaller/shorter spaces.
I've run both. They work!
The bigger taller on left is a vertical bulb with internal ballast. 18" x18" reflector opening. Gotta have the height for these.
The smaller is a horizontal bulb external ballast. 11"x9" reflector opening. IME, a great fit for smaller/shorter spaces.
I've run both. They work!
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farmingfisherman
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The 315 does have many different ballast hood setups. I bought mine on a wim. Never again will I buy without researching better. I could have bought a 630 for the what I paid for the sun system boss..
Good light however.
farmingfisherman
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Grow shop swore that the hozo provides better coverage? You notice any difference?
TintEastwood
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No diff noticed. Ideally it would be nice to see a par map of both.
I've also ran mixed, 3k & 4k with no issues.
Sadly my 2 vertical 315s are sitting unused! Build strips over the summer for something to do. Lol
Blindnslow
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No pics but i can say they jump up fast from the start under the 315. once i put it under the 630 new growth nodes are alot closer and keeps it from getting out of hand height wise.
daddy32992
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I'm going with the Sun System LEC 630. I have a 315 by them I plan to use in another tent, had great results using it throughout. Come to think of it, I did have some stretching issues (315 used 3100 K bulb) and the stems were bending pretty bad. I figure if I use the mixed spectrum it would be better if I'm using it for flower and veg. What do you guys think?
farmingfisherman
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I'd run 2 veg bulbs and 2 bloom bulbs personally.. Think the results would be better for you.
daddy32992
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Ok yeah I'm sold going to do 2 for flower/veg in a 4x4 and I've still got my 3x3/315 waiting I may use it for a veg tent idk yet just getting back into the hobby. Really excited
F1_Grower
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How do you like a thread or comment? Thank you kindly.<3 thank you guys, love this section of the forum, so many helpful people , information and awesome bud picsWish i could give you guys more than one like.
And right now I'm deciding which brand to get 4 to 5 cmh units which all are vertical hoods, except for the dimilux 630 is a dual lamp that lies horizontal and has separate cool air intake and out take above, whereas the phantom has only one
F1_Grower
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I appologize im new and type long messages
Phone died when I started taking pics lost message
I need help deciding between which 3 vertical 315cmh kits i should get for all 3 of my rooms.
+New vegg/flower room 5 x 5 is master bath, im growing led 250w and bare bulb vert 315 cmh in cool tube going up to attic exhaust port from 3 in 1 light fan heater combo which i reinstalled a 20A -125 V plug in outlet bc why not. I like how the one room in this house that s a 15A breaker the atrium i first chose to grow in and i can tell ya running anything 600w or higher for long time on extension without proper gauge will melt it or anything in contact. I've done a lot of noob mistakes but has been an ever stellar. Learning experience hvac, electrical,, hst, lst, super, monster, ppm, ph, ec , video, integrated pest management solutions, damb those cali aphids, what wrong with bud im pointed at in pic pls
i havent looked up any threads for RIU folks that have tried growing indoor in a bath tub but any hints tips or tricks welcomed.. we are demo bathroom come summer. In the bathtub river rock first with promix , volcanic pumice, perlute at bottom near mini French drain at bottom toward drain. My cuts for that are ice cream cake and katsu pheno hunting for just katsu to keep and to monster crop the kat keep her going so stelkar. and concentrate on perfecting that strain and gelato #41 even though im an og gas fan like WCSD aka kerosene kush, sfv , jedi, Darkstar og, deathstar og, yoda og, and good ole sensi star . But im also using each room to mass monster crop, veg for outdoor spring time.
The other room im setting up this week is a 5 x 8 walk through from master bedroom to bath, here i wanted to hang 3 vert with individual trellis like @gr865 open to suggestions
Main flower Room : 10 x 6 x 9 but im only using 8 x 5 due to double layers thivk mil mylar on black retrofitted atrium with 3 of the 4 walls having 10ft x 6ft glass sliders :/ I cracked and sealed two of the 3 sliders open with insulated foam board thick high R value but wish I just did all 3 walls flush with slated board like framing with sliver ducting tape sealing corners bc I got a lot of hot spots. I effed up wk 5 flower heat stress and mech issue sum pump no dry run setting:/ anyway i want to replace my two 1k watt hids mh, hps and possibly recessed leds even though the side monster cropped ones next to leds t5 n recessed are looking ever so exotic with dense nuggahe and exquisite terp profiles 3rd generation from my outdoor wk 2 flower
I would like to have a scattered distributed/ hybrid lighting layout but not sure if I should get mogul adapter (either SS or phantom and PROPER ballast low frequency square wave tech) and take out glass cover and put horizontal in old hids (not like the big khaunas ) which i love that guys setup. I really want to put 3 315cmh phantoms in a triangle pattern surrounding a 630 w cmh by dimilux anlong side dmy 250w Full spec viaspectra led that I got two for 400$ 200ea with 1.7 u/mol and all same as ferrari , gavita ,lux.
Or just get all 630 w dimi lux and daisy chained and vac in cool, out heat. And Im always looking to expand ops so not trying invest in 5 x 5 , 10 x 10 leds great for buy real deal setups pushing out packs so why invest in led but start building up my supply of efficient and effective like cmh. But im going crazy trying to guess heat issues and Compatibility with maybe what I already got but tjust the reflector switch out ballast n mogul adapter, or ss 315 lec cmh remotes x 10 and get rid of everything else. Check out pics and ill keep ya posted but some of indoor look horrible like heat stress and aphid damage lplease see for me lmk over nute? Im flushing rn but re thread, im ready to pull trigger in cmg but worried about heat, compatability meaning more along lines of versatility of use btwn vert and horizontal so, scrog
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F1_Grower
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Here is other two rooms im setting up and need cmhs for , master bath tub grow and the 5 x 8 i want to trellis vert scrog 6 ea side in 10gal smart pots
Here is pics if my current grow setup which I know looks like a disaster right now but am moving the portabke ac out and cooling lights redirecting some of cool air intake through the hoods. So then I can setup 25 pound tanks to each ealed room.
I love these zipper doors u can make and being able to semi see gals thru glass slider if I leave both of the double layered mylar walls open
Cheers
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colocowboy
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Wow, you’ve been waiting to tell your tale! lol
I have used a tub space for my grow before, it’s actually not a bad place to do it. I mean you have access to drainage water supply and probably electricity nearby. Based on everything I’ve read about you so far, my biggest recommendation for you is to make sure you’re using a functional GFI on your electric. The other big recommendation would be not to mess around too much with a makeshift door like that, negative pressure will pull that thing apart and you’ll end up fighting a big fat mess in the end you’ll be way better off finding a tent that you can put on a makeshift topper for the tub. Don’t worry about cutting in a full sized vent as a sheetrock repair on that is easy/cheap!
so what are you doing? Convert you whole house to grow op?
I have used a tub space for my grow before, it’s actually not a bad place to do it. I mean you have access to drainage water supply and probably electricity nearby. Based on everything I’ve read about you so far, my biggest recommendation for you is to make sure you’re using a functional GFI on your electric. The other big recommendation would be not to mess around too much with a makeshift door like that, negative pressure will pull that thing apart and you’ll end up fighting a big fat mess in the end you’ll be way better off finding a tent that you can put on a makeshift topper for the tub. Don’t worry about cutting in a full sized vent as a sheetrock repair on that is easy/cheap!
so what are you doing? Convert you whole house to grow op?
F1_Grower
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ISo funny!!
Thank you. They are holding up so far so good but ur right ima do wall to wall insulation board silver side in works like mylar right? I used si much staple gun and 5 duff types of tape lol im just waiting to harvest, flipped on Nov 23 so almost there but this hardest part for me,
Fill, flush, fade, no water two day, cut
I think I should cut back on lengthy messages its hard in phone feel like I'm texting a girl,
now that I've introduced myself and should stick to topic im sorry. I decided to join riu o
It may sound like im overloading circuits but i think at time being if i don't go past 80% of total allowed on a 15a or 20a shud b all gravy, the breaker dosent trip, but a sub breaker would b nice.. is a gfi ground force indicator? I did see that green screw on back of 20A outlet and capped wires with correct colors not using and screwed any of those copper looking screws back down not in use. i installed with what was the light in the 3 in 1 docker switch to new outlet and remembered how everything was when I took apart. See i know as much as cutting power to where im working and reverse engineering.
Ii just feel like these se hps even at 32inches one at 110% other 100% not cutting it bc my vpd and aphids problem held me back, and wk 5 shouldn't left town.. my foliage so bare not li ke pics I've been seeing of og growers here,, i mean real og growers growing under street lamps light dep. Ill get there, but honestly I just love the whole plant sensimillia and feel like I have to make up a decade of not 'growing ' in the short time I picked it up from Sept 2020 bought 37 cuts from A Mook in Modesto put me on to katsu k and icc and just last wk an Ozzie got me gelato 41 cuts and rest is history, those clones have made hundreds more clones since then my room has evolved and I use zippers for
makeshift doorways bc im not a tent guy i like to retrofit whole rooms unless to dry n cute buds in cold garage bc 62 % and 60F important to me . I feel you thoughts its a pain bc any light leaks can cause hermit. But after harvesting its so so important freezing, getting my homie to make rosin solventless , that what a grow tent seen used for recently. to making live bubble hash, rosin , its endless, used stalks as firewood from outdoor etc but I want to grow own medicine . Sfv og like... i mean each breaker in thus home is 20A and up and corresponding gauge wire too but im one if those ppl who needs more and more. :/ im trying to chill tho but after college and civid came around , I went headstrong into this., like see i started indoor cannabis to practice mindfulness, patience, awareness, and heightening my consciousness, all of which is why I'm here right now on RIU. I gotta go to work but cheers!
**I just don't get why everyone else's nuggage look like exotic big ole colas and mine so small, if i don't get at least 2 packs under 2k hps, and 1k led then idk , I shudda mammoth sprayed and lost coast with painsorayyer all through vegg into flower bc I brought in aphids from outdoor clones and once they in hard to get off.
I did love going under canopy week 2 and 3 flower to spray upward under leaves looked like canopy blowing puffs iof sensi but taking the darn electric tape iff hids to wipe down glass sucked. . Yeah, that's my story but don't want to go against any proper forum etiquette , hijacking threads etc but still trying to descide between dimilux or more of say 3 x 3 spread nanolux, sun sys.
I just love to grow, and grow to live right now.
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See I've been using the spare master bath since November harvest look how purp the katsu got amazing, the cured nugs is gelato #41 im focusing in now . See yall in flip side
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F1_Grower
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How many plants u plan 4 x 4? And how about medium? Which did u descide on? 315 brand model. Is it much cooler having seperate ballast? Is it better (more efficient)to cool heat source aka light rather than ambient room? Bc I feel like one can produce a pound under one 315 if vegged 6 to 7 weeks in 10 to 15 gals and scrog but two 315s in a 4x4 u can get over 1 lb