Club 315w lec
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DesertGrow89
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Is the nanolux ballast low frequency square wave?
I think so I think it says digital on the box my understanding was that it wouldnt work without lfsw. Whatever it is the plants love it
KushyMcKush
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Has anyone used this light in a 4'x4' and added supplemental lighting in flowering? I have mine in a 3.5'x4.5' and has been killing it for veg but as I read more Im getting a little concerned for the flower coverage. Im going to be flipping here in a week or so and want to make sure I have enough light to get some decent results. I do have a 4 tube 4' t5 pannel I could add all 3000k bulbs and hang it in there for supplemental lighting? Or maybe even pick up a cheap red ufo led. Ive also been considering just swapping out with my 1000w hps or even setting up a scond flowering room with the 1000w, but Id need to do some work and Im trying to flip next week. Not only that, I really want to see what this 315 can do for an entire grow veg/flower. I feel some supplemental lighting from the fluorescent would be my best/cheapset option.
What do you guys think? Here's a few pics from today.
And here's the t5 fixture I can use. Currently being used for a few purple kush seedlings and my first clones just for fun trying it out.
What do you guys think? Here's a few pics from today.
And here's the t5 fixture I can use. Currently being used for a few purple kush seedlings and my first clones just for fun trying it out.
Evil-Mobo
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I'd want to see what the light can do as well, mine is surprising me a lot in my over sized 3x3. Keep on your defoliation of light blocking leaves and let her rip. That's what I am doing and she's not disappointing so far. You will know on the way if you do need more light then just hang the T5 don't waste $$ for no reason. Just my $0.02........
ttystikk
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No way is she gonna replace a thouie. Two of them, on the other hand. ..
KushyMcKush
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Oh, no way. I wouldn't expect anything close to that. From all I've read, most say these 315's are closer to a 600w hps. What Im saying is, Im considering just finishing the entire grow with the 1000 because I know Ill get bigger yields. Im more concerned with quality though, Im LOVING this lec so far, and from what Ive seen, the bud quality is fantastic. Im most likely going to buy a second one for my next run.
I can also set up the 1000 in a different area (where the rack with the clones is at in the picture above), but it would require some construction and dialing in temps and all that. So, it would put me about 2-3 more weeks out from flowering. If I used the extra space though, I wouldn't need to worry about vegging longer as I could continue lst/super cropping to fill out the other 4x4 area.
Its just something to consider. I could also just wait and do this next time and just finish out this run with the 315 and maybe the fluorescent to supplement later if needed.
KushyMcKush
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Man, you wouldn't believe how much Ive defoliated. I have a whole 5 gallon bucket half full of leaves from all the defoliation sessions Ive done! The Purple Kush (the big girl frond and center) was hacked to shit and lolipopped just 2 weeks ago. Now its mostly grown back, just not the lower branches. Its insane how quickly this light allows undergrowth to catch up when I defoliate, supercrop, or lst. Within days the newly exposed growth is caught up and filling out the center. Im just afraid to go too crazy with the lst becaus if I do decide to only use this small space, Im going to run out of floor space.
Evil-Mobo
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I defoliated yesterday and new growth today end of the day and I mean new buds coming up hairs and all with nothing in the way it's crazy lol......
Put 4 2700k cxb3590 around a 315 that would probably cover a 4x4 really well for flower and help keep the temp down. That's what I plan on doing next run
ttystikk
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From what I've read, seen and done with all of the above lighting options thus far, I've found that 'in rough terms',
500W of HPS = 315W CMH = one of my 225W COB LED modules, running four Cree CXB3590 chips at about 56% efficiency.
FWIW
A dimmable 240w driver with 4 3590 around a 315 would be perfect for a 5x5 with that math its a 1000w hps replacement without the heat of hps
ttystikk
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My driver is 200W. Two of them pushing 4 chips each would replace a thouie, no need for the 315W CMH at all.
As it is, two of them absolutely demolish a Mars 1600 on the veg setting. It's pulling 550W at the wall and doesn't give nearly the growth. And it's hot by comparison.
bob223
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the more i use the 315w the more like it. I would yield 16oz out of a 4x4 tent using a 1000w hps in an air cooled hood running a hortilux super Hps bulb.
The genetics i use i ran in that set up for years.
then i switched to the 315w LEC. i set it up in a 4x4 only utilizing a 3x3 section of the tent. In the excess space i have a carbon filter and oscillating fan. I have been consistently yielding around 12oz with the Lec. The top buds are actually larger under the LEC..... Bottom buds not as big as the hps i would say my buds under the lec are slightly more dense then the hps.`
One 315 lec will not completely replace a 1000w but two Lec's will blow 1000w out of the water. I feel the 315w is closer to a 600w hps. Im sure grower that are running high yielding genetics could get well over a pound per light. The real awesome thing with the lec's seems to be when you run multiples. people are running 3 of them in a 4x4 and killing them. The guy in Colorado has a warehouse full of them and is hitting i believe like 1.5 lbs per light and shooting for two.
From what i am seeing i would also buy and run multiple 315's over buying 630's seems like if it would be more efficient to be able to space the bulbs out over a bigger area instead of having them right next to each other in the 630. ( now this is just my opinion maybe some one with a 630 or mutipuls can chime in).
Any one have any experience with the sun system 315 commercial fixtures?
how is the foot print on them
KushyMcKush
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how would this work? I plan on someday building my own led pannel. When I was first researching lighting I was so so close to going with an led (either mars 2 or platinum) but in the end I just wasn't comfortable with the quality vs. price right now. I did look a little bit into building my own, but for my first grow I wanted more of a plug and play aet up.
This is why I was thinking the red ufo's might work well, maybe 2 of them, one on each side. They are over $150 a piece though and Im not looking to spend that much more on lighting right now. How expensive would it be to do what you mentioned above? Or would it just be a better idea to add the fluorescent I alreay have?
KushyMcKush
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I would be very happy with anything close to 12oz. I seriously doubt I will come close to this, being my first grow, but I would be happy with 6-8oz. Im more concerned wth quality than quantity, and from all my research before purchasing my light, these lec's are killing it in both quality and yield which had me sold. Plus, you can't beat that spectrum! The closer to natural sunlight the better.
I am trying to keep my plants as tightly together as possible to keep it at a 3x3. Right now they are taking up the entire 3.5' width and 3' length of the room. I suspect they will fill out the entire 3.5x4.5 space by the end of it though.
How tall are you letting your plants get before flowering? Im starting to think I may be rushing into the flowering. They are all between 15"-18" tall at the moment. Most on the 18" side measured from the top of the soil. In the room Im using I can let them go to a maximum of 36"-40" which would leave me 18-20" of distance from the light which is where Ive been keeping it and it seems to be doing well at this distance. The information on mycurrent strains Im running says the White Cookies are expected to stretch 3x the height. The White Widow expected to double, and the Purple Kush can double as well. Im doing what I can to keep the cookies shorter and bushier, but if I were to start flowering now, at their current height, they would just be within my maximum height if they were to stretch 2.5x their current height.
Growdict
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Kushy. You should just add the flouros you already have if you can control temps. My first run under lec in a 4x4 i got 8 oz. my second i added a blurple for a while but couldnt keep it under 80 so switched it to a pair of t8s. I have one plant left to harvest but will be 11-12 oz total
twistedentities
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This thread has me effing so stoked! I. Almost finished my new grow shed and will be using 315's. Awesome thread!
Here's a copy paste of my setup
Pretty much everything ordered is in and just waiting to be put together. Here's the official list
Clones
Super sprouter dome with t5
For clones after rooting
Bad boy 6 bulb t5
Bulbs- hortilux power veg x4
Power bloom x2
Veg for moms
Sunsystem 315 cmh 4200k
Organic soil
Bloom
Sun system 315 cmh 3100k
Air
2x 6" hurricane fan and 2x Carbon filters
Tent
Secret jardin 4'x4' veg tent
Secret jardin 2'x4' bloom tent
Strains
Gorilla glue #4
Cannatonic
Widow Cindy X Durga mata
Possible one more if I find a keeper in my outdoor this season.
Here's a copy paste of my setup
Pretty much everything ordered is in and just waiting to be put together. Here's the official list
Clones
Super sprouter dome with t5
For clones after rooting
Bad boy 6 bulb t5
Bulbs- hortilux power veg x4
Power bloom x2
Veg for moms
Sunsystem 315 cmh 4200k
Organic soil
Bloom
Sun system 315 cmh 3100k
Air
2x 6" hurricane fan and 2x Carbon filters
Tent
Secret jardin 4'x4' veg tent
Secret jardin 2'x4' bloom tent
Strains
Gorilla glue #4
Cannatonic
Widow Cindy X Durga mata
Possible one more if I find a keeper in my outdoor this season.
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twistedentities
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I'll have one filter in the bloom tent and another on the blower going outside. I went with a smaller bloom tent since I'll only be flowering clones. This is only for personal medical. Very little leaves my property.
Edit. I should have put a space separating air....fixed