ez cloner says never use distilled water. It will slow root growth. My problem is i have been using flora mico 5-0-1 which apparently has to much nitrogen feeding the mother to allow gor root formation. Anybody know if i can just do a good flush then clone, or switch to flora grow 2-1-6, averything i have read says high N levels inhibit root formation.
Cloning - Aeroponic vs. Bubbler
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jimjones420
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i think i read somewhere maybe the exclone site to leave pump on 24/7... is this not ideal?? I have several clones started a week ago, would 15/15 or 15/30 be betr for the pump...
15 on. 30 off. Simple as that. A lot of people say to turn the pump off to allow the roots to dry. This doesn't happen in a 100% humid environment.(I've watched two complete cycles for myself, and water droplets stay on the roots the entire time) Your plants are only going to absorb just as much nutrient as they need. 15 mins is plently of time to achieve this. There is no reason to leave your pump on for 24/7. And if your roots are touching water in the bottom of your tank they are absorbing max nutes anyway.
trouble9039
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You guy's need to be alittle more clear on your times! Are you guy's using recycle timer's or cheap timer's, Min or sec? I run mine for 10 sec on and 3 min off and get great results. I am also using A DIY aero cloner based of of the greatest invention the ez cloner! I am running RO water set at A PH of 5.8 with clonex rooting gel!
Yeah man sorry about the time 15 min on and 30 min off is what I meant. I didn't feel like dishin out the cash for a timer like yours. I bet your plants do very well, but I am getting great results with my timer. And sometimes I don't even use rooting hormone, and I still get 100% success with my clones. Both my veg and flower set-ups are identical except for size. My veg is a small 5 gallon rubber maid tough neck. (Highly recommended over anything else, everything else leaks. Trust me on this) my flower chamber is the large 17 gallon tough neck. I didn't even put misters in my clone/veg chamber. I have the 180 degree irrigation misters in the flower chamber. I don't mess with the ph at all. I use a 1/4 of the recommended amt of nutrient solution (general hydroponics). Nute burn has been my biggest obstacle. I finally have that worked out and I'm pumping out 5 ozs every two months. I don't have a mother, I just take cuttings off of my veggin clones before I put them in my flower room. Sorry about that super long post, but you know how it is with these plants. I just get in the zone. Peace.
trouble9039
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It work's great, but ya they are not cheap! The on's from home dumpo work great also. I also used to use general but was not happy at all with there product's.
Yeah I thought the same about GH nutes when I first started using them. But I think GH is some of the best stuff out there now. You just have to do a little bit of trial and error. The recommended amt to use on the label is WAY too much. But now that I have it figured out I love GH. How are you flowering? One tank with multiple sites, or separate buckets?
trouble9039
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I am running 4 mother's in soil and 5 new mother's in DWC bucket's! My flowering system is A SOG and I am using IONIC and boosting my flowering with the fox farm series, I am super happy with the IONIC....
What's IONIC? Nutes? Wow that's a lot of mothers. Are they all different strains? Well I would hope so. Have you tried cloning off of veggin plants like I do? Man it saves so much room and I don't have to take care of additional plants. Do you use co2? When I increase the size of my grow I'm def gonna do co2.I don't feel the need for it right now. But, it sounds like you are a commercial grower. How tall do you grow your clones before flower? 10-12 in? I've never tried a sog before. Its easier for me just to grow everything at once. I mean its either an oz every two weeks or 5 ozs every two months.it just seems easier to do all the work at once.
trouble9039
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IONIC is just A brand! I was using the GH 3 part micro, grow and bloom and was not happy! The mother's in the DWC are only maybe 2 month's old and all 5 are diffrent strain's. The soil mother's are A little over A year old now. As far as the CO2 goes I used to use it! No I am not A com grower more of A hobby grower. My clones are around 8" when they go into flower and I love doing the SOG system that is setup is hydro! I hate trimming so this work's alot nicer for me. If you do end up doing CO2 do it right the first time around and alot of people have diffrent opion's! I have my room ran by A controller so everything is monitored, and you want to watch you level's.
drynroasty
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I didn't read the thread, but I learned that with my bubblers I have MUCH better success when heat is used to keep solution near the 80's in temp. I set the bubbler (coffee can) on my growbox and the heat is perfect.
why would u have roots in water with a aero cloner? lol ....its a cloner....lol....
Warlock1369
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I use the TurboKloner and colneX. Pump is left on 24/7. And after 200 clines I've gotten 100%.
Warlock1369
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Yes the roots hang in water as water is spryed over the stems. And why bring back a 2.5 year old thread to talk crap? just now looked at the date.